Re: Welcome to the Initial Committers of Baremaps

2022-10-12 Thread Julian Hyde
Congratulations to Baremaps for getting accepted into the Incubator! I have subscribed to dev@ and private@ lists. The first part of the Apache Way is to make some noise on the dev list. So it's great to see others doing that and posting here. Julian On 2022/10/12 09:23:27 Bertil Chapuis wro

Re: Baremaps joins the Apache Incubator

2022-10-15 Thread Julian Hyde
This is a great start. We've got people on the dev list, talking about tasks, and just getting stuff done. (You've heard the 'community over code' mantra already, but 'just do it' is another. Get stuff done, and if you make a mistake, we can fix it.) It might be useful to use the bug-tracking syst

Kick-off meeting

2022-10-15 Thread Julian Hyde
I'd like to schedule a video meeting to kick off the incubation process. Previous projects that I have mentored have found it useful: a chance for initial committers and mentors to meet each other, a chance for everyone to ask all of the questions that may be on your mind, and a chance for us folks

Re: kickoff meeting

2022-10-18 Thread Julian Hyde
A majority seems to be in favor of this Thursday at 1800 UTC, so let’s do that. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2022&month=10&day=20&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=87

Re: kickoff meeting

2022-10-18 Thread Julian Hyde
7 Hopefully Andrea and Calvin will be able to join us at that time. I will send a meeting invite with a URL for Google meet. Julian On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 8:24 AM Julian Hyde wrote: > > A majority seems to be in favor of this Thursday at 1800 UTC, so let’s do > that. > > https

Re: Code style and root package

2022-10-19 Thread Julian Hyde
Changing package names is probably harmless. But file headers and copyright notices should not be changed until after IP transfer (repository migration). I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that GitHub PRs and issues will come through the IP transfer process. If so, people may need to open new PR

Re: Website URL, "incubator" is not needed

2022-10-19 Thread Julian Hyde
Agreed. It's my fault, as I authored that page. I wasn't sure whether 'incubator.' was required, but it's better without. The next person who edits that page (generated from baremaps.xml in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/) should fix it. I'm hoping someon

Re: Website URL, "incubator" is not needed

2022-10-20 Thread Julian Hyde
I removed 'incubator.' from the template also. To save the next podling the trouble. Julian [1] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/incubation-status-template.xml?r1=1882331&r2=1904748&diff_format=h On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Berti

Re: Code style and root package

2022-10-21 Thread Julian Hyde
Regarding the GPL/LGPL dependencies. It is true that an ASF top-level project cannot make releases with those dependencies. But these issues can be solved during incubation. Incubating projects have some leeway while making their first releases. I suggest that you do not try to solve the GPL/LGP

Kickoff meeting is 23.5 hours away

2022-10-24 Thread Julian Hyde
A reminder that the Incubation kickoff meeting is less than a day away. It starts at 1800 UTC tomorrow Tuesday 25th October [1]. The screen share is via Google meet [2] Julian [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2022&month=10&day=25&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=

Re: Kickoff meeting is 23.5 hours away

2022-10-25 Thread Julian Hyde
esentation/d/1EmxRr3gLmA1wLwoZgjDnOQs05jD3kU73C7qbVXUDpJA On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 11:04 AM Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the reminder, at least a couple of us are currently in the > waiting room. > > Best regards, > > Bertil > > > > On 24 Oct 20

Re: Kickoff meeting is 23.5 hours away

2022-10-25 Thread Julian Hyde
). https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/25/major-5-1-quake-rocks-bay-area On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 4:37 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > > Thanks for the great meeting today - good attendance, great questions. > It was good to meet you all. > > The slides are here [1]. My slides are at the begi

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - November 2022

2022-10-26 Thread Julian Hyde
Collaborating in a Google doc is totally fine, but remember that to file the report, one person will need write-access to the ASF's confluent wiki (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/November2022 ). And somet

Re: rethink of the Readme.md at the root of the project

2022-10-27 Thread Julian Hyde
Glad you're thinking about the design of README.md. It is an important entry point to the project for developers (and potential contributors). But bear in mind a couple of other entry points: the project's home page, and the source tarball. The home page should be the default entry point for peop

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - November 2022

2022-10-31 Thread Julian Hyde
2022, at 20:46, Josh Fischer wrote: I’m happy to submit the report this go around. If anyone else wants to do it, no worries at all. Just let me know. On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:20 PM Julian Hyde wrote: Collaborating in a Google doc is totally fine, but remember that to file the report, one pe

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - November 2022

2022-10-31 Thread Julian Hyde
31, 2022 at 3:27 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > > Thanks for writing the report on time, and thanks for the reminder email. As > a mentor I have difficulty remembering to sign off. The reminders help a lot. > > In ’Three most important” there were two ‘2.’ Bullet points; I fixed it. In &

Re: Reviews of pull requests

2022-11-15 Thread Julian Hyde
The "CTR vs RTC" discussion is an important one for a community to have. In my opinion, there's no easy answer. (I'm basically agreeing with Bertrand here.) It is certainly useful to have a default process, and that default process should probably be RTC. But also develop trust so that people who h

Re: Draft of the release process

2022-11-20 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks for creating a process. Now we have a process, we can iterate. A few thoughts. 1. On terminology. The release itself consists of the source code, literally the src.tar.gz file. People incorrectly use the term 'binary release' but the binaries are just artifacts generated from the release.

Re: Draft of the release process

2022-11-21 Thread Julian Hyde
agement.html#best-practice > [3]https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#what > [4]https://infra.apache.org/release-distribution > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 6:24 AM Julian Hyde wrote: >> >> Thanks for creating a process. Now we have a process, we can iterate. >&

Re: baremaps.apache.org ?

2022-11-21 Thread Julian Hyde
Nice work, Bertil! It looks gorgeous. One thing you’ve missed in #489 is the disclaimer [1]. And the project name should be ‘Apache Baremaps (incubating)’. And it may be covered implicitly in the list in #489, but right now the site doesn’t answer the key question “How do I join the community?”

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - January 2023

2023-01-04 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks; I signed off. > On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Josh Fischer wrote: > > Thank you for getting this done, Bertil. > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 4:30 PM Bertil Chapuis wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I completed the report on the wiki. >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/January

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - March 2023

2023-03-03 Thread Julian Hyde
If you give each RC a tag, and push that tag, then you are not removing the commit. The commit is still reachable via the tag. One possible process is as follows. You could pause commits to main during the release process. Make the release candidates on a branch that is one commit ahead of main

Re: [VOTE] Release Baremaps 0.7.1 (incubating)

2023-03-08 Thread Julian Hyde
-1 (binding) This is a very good first release candidate from an incubating project. Many things are done right. As noted below, the release needs to be in tar.gz form, but I reviewed the release based on the contents of git. When the errors have been fixed, let's have another release candidate.

Re: [VOTE] Release Baremaps 0.7.1 (incubating)

2023-03-09 Thread Julian Hyde
t; > As for wine, beer and whisky, I suppose that a good old release process > eventually tastes good ;) > > Bertil > > [1] https://infra.apache.org/release-distribution.html#other-platforms > > > > On 8 Mar 2023, at 21:01, Julian Hyde wrote: > > > > -1 (bindi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.1-rc2 (incubating)

2023-03-16 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 (binding) Downloaded; checked hashes/signatures; checked LICENSE, NOTICE, DISCLAIMER-WIP; compiled and ran tests on Ubuntu, OpenJDK 17, Maven 3.8.1. Notes 1. I ran RAT and it failed with ’Too many unapproved licenses: 3’. But I don’t agree with the issues it found, one of which was DISCLAIM

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.1-rc2 (incubating)

2023-03-18 Thread Julian Hyde
I agree with your conclusion, not entirely with your reasoning. We will need three IPMC votes during the vote on general@i.a.o but we don’t technically need them now, and they don’t strictly need to be mentors. We need information, so that you as RM can make an informed de

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.1-rc2 (incubating)

2023-03-19 Thread Julian Hyde
>> In addition to what Julian said, I have a little addition. >> The license file and NOTICE of the binary package are missing. It >> seems that we have not done this work. Maybe it can be done in the >> next version. >> Another point, did we forget to publish maven compo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.1-rc2 (incubating)

2023-03-20 Thread Julian Hyde
tes. > > +1 (binding) votes: > - Julian Hyde > - George Percival > - Calvin Kirs > > +1 (non-binding) votes: > - Antoine Drabble > - Leonard Besseau > - James Smith > - Bertil Chapuis > > Thank you all for your participation, > > Bertil > > &g

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - June 2023

2023-06-06 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks for filing the report on time. I have signed off. I made the following comments: Congratulations on the HN coverage and traffic. (Back in the day, getting Slashdotted was a rite of passage.) I'd say this puts you in the 'community building' phase. Regarding hosting, can you start a thre

Re: License release tool suggestion

2023-07-18 Thread Julian Hyde
What Josh said. Rat is mature and is aligned with ASF policy. I don’t recommend using it in the default build, as it gets false positives when there are junk files in your dev sandbox. But do enable it in CI and release builds. Eyes is newer but looks like it has some nice features. Maybe enabl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc1 (incubating)

2023-08-28 Thread Julian Hyde
What Josh said. I’ll review & vote today. Apologies. > On Aug 28, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Josh Fischer wrote: > > I apologize for my absence. I will spend some time looking at it in the next > 24 hours. > > This is one of the fun and challenging parts of working through the > incubator. I’ve had

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc1 (incubating)

2023-08-29 Thread Julian Hyde
openStreet >>>>> Map example wouldn’t work with one of our binary releases. This isn’t a >>>>> blocker by any means, just a developer experience idea that I thought >>>>> about while checking the release. >>>>> >>>>> $ cd e

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc1 (incubating)

2023-08-30 Thread Julian Hyde
2. The license of logo.svg is Font Awesome Free License. I see that >>> Font Awesome Free is free, open source, and GPL friendly. You can use >>> it for commercial projects, open source projects, or really almost >>> whatever you want. >>> This is not allowe

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc1 (incubating)

2023-08-30 Thread Julian Hyde
elow). > > I feel that we should remove this last parenthesis for the license to make > sense without the Appendix, but I'd prefer not to bother any lawyers ;-) If > you don't mind, I'd rather keep it. > >> On 30 Aug 2023, at 20:02, Julian Hyde > <mail

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc1 (incubating)

2023-08-30 Thread Julian Hyde
t; >> On 30 Aug 2023, at 23:19, Julian Hyde wrote: >> >> +1 Cancel the emergency appendectomy. >> >>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 2:07 PM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: >>> >>> Thanks a lot for looking at this. I think I now recall why I didn’t remove >>

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - September 2023

2023-08-31 Thread Julian Hyde
Please let me know when the report is ready for me to sign off as a mentor. I’m wondering whether Baremaps community members have been promoting the project - say, by presenting at conferences. That kind of community-building effort should be mentioned. Julian > On Aug 31, 2023, at 7:49 AM, L

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - September 2023

2023-09-06 Thread Julian Hyde
Thank you Leonard for the report. > > I went through it and I think that the mentor can now sign it. > > Bertil > >> On 1 Sep 2023, at 03:06, Julian Hyde wrote: >> >> Please let me know when the report is ready for me to sign off as a mentor. >> >> I’m

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc2 (incubating)

2023-09-15 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 (binding) Downloaded, checked signatures, compared with git tag, checked LICENSE/NOTICE/README/DISCLAIMER, compiled & ran tests on Ubuntu/OpenJDK 17/Maven 3.8.1. Julian On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 2:32 PM Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Following the first release candidate, we mad

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc3 (incubating)

2023-10-03 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 (binding) Downloaded, checked signatures, README, LICENSE, NOTICE, DISCLAIMER-WIP; compared src-tar contents with git; built using OpenJDK 17/Maven 3.8.1 on Ubuntu/amd64; ran RAT. Checked that file headers are now correct. Julian > On Oct 3, 2023, at 11:48 AM, Leo wrote: > > +1 (binding)

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc3 (incubating)

2023-10-11 Thread Julian Hyde
t; > +1 votes [5]: > - Leonard Cseres > - Julian Hyde > - Jean-Baptiste Onofré > - Calvin Kirs > - Bertil Chapuis > > 0 votes [0]: > None > > -1 votes [0]: > None > > Best regards, > > Bertil > > > > > On 7 Oct 2023, at 07:08, Calvin Kirs

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.7.2-rc3 (incubating)

2023-10-12 Thread Julian Hyde
members (including non-PMC committers). Julian > On Oct 12, 2023, at 03:05, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the clarification, we will eventually get familiar with the > process 😅 > >> On 11 Oct 2023, at 21:02, Julian Hyde wrote: >> >> Note th

Re: Apache Baremaps and Apache SIS

2023-11-24 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks for sharing. Please continue to share GitHub discussions threads on dev. It's great to see push-pull between ASF projects. There's no obligation for one project to use another, or for members of that project to contribute to the other project, but if a discussion can align our interests tha

Re: Podling Baremaps Report Reminder - December 2023

2023-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
I’ve signed the report. It doesn’t look like it has been submitted to the Board yet. Thanks for expanding on what you see as the challenges for the project. Growing the community is definitely worth focusing on. There may be some small things you could do that — when you look back in 3 years —

Re: March report for Apache Baremaps

2024-03-18 Thread Julian Hyde
I have signed off. Baremaps seems to be doing well. I am pleased to see your work, Bertil, on automating releases. Thank you for the reminder, and sorry that I missed the earlier one… with the ASF annual meeting, March is a very heavy month for ASF email. Julian > On Mar 18, 2024, at 3:54 AM,

Re: June report for Apache Baremaps

2024-06-12 Thread Julian Hyde
Good report, Bertil. Thank you. I have signed off. Julian > On Jun 4, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I just submitted the June report for Apache Baremaps [1]. Please, feel free > to comment, edit, or sign directly on the confluence wiki. > > The last release

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.1-rc2 (incubating)

2024-11-14 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 jhyde (IPMC member) Downloaded, checked hashes and signatures, README, NOTICE, DISCLAIMER, compiled and ran tests on Ubuntu Linux using maven-3.8.1 and JDK 21. Ran apache-rat. I notice the artifacts are signed using key “priv...@baremaps.apache.org ”, not a

Re: Publishing Artifacts on Nexus

2024-11-26 Thread Julian Hyde
When you press the “release” button in Nexus the artifacts will be deployed to maven central. They appear with a latency of a couple of hours. (This time, because the vote failed, you should press “drop” rather than “release”.) Julian > On Nov 26, 2024, at 14:43, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > 

Re: Publishing Artifacts on Nexus

2024-12-02 Thread Julian Hyde
uttons, but they are not > available for my snapshots. I have to delete them manually from the artifact > panel on the bottom left. Maybe they will appear with once the apache-release > profile is activated. > > Bertil > > >> On 27 Nov 2024, at 02:28, Julian

Re: [CANCEL][VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.1-rc3 (incubating)

2024-12-04 Thread Julian Hyde
As I stated in my vote [1], I ran RAT on rc2, and it succeeded. $ ./mvnw apache-rat:rat ... [INFO] baremaps-cli ... SUCCESS [ 0.096 s] [INFO] [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS [INFO] --

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.1-rc4 (incubating)

2024-12-11 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 jhyde (binding, member IPMC) Downloaded; checked signatures and digests; checked NOTICE, LICENSE, README, DISCLAIMER; compiled and ran tests on Ubuntu 24.04.1, x86_64, JDK 21, Maven 3.8.1. Ran apache-rat. Julian > On Dec 11, 2024, at 12:26 AM, Leo wrote: > > Hello, > > Ran checks on lic

Re: Preliminary verification of the maven artifacts

2024-12-11 Thread Julian Hyde
The maven artifacts look OK. The directory structure contains a directory for each module, and each module has .jar, .-javadoc.jar, -sources.jar files and appropriate hashes. Julian > On Dec 8, 2024, at 12:02 PM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > The release artifacts are now av

Re: [VOTE] Release maven artifacts for Apache Baremaps 0.8.1-rc4 (incubating)

2024-12-15 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 jhyde (IPMC member) > On Dec 15, 2024, at 6:12 AM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > This is a call for a vote to release Maven artifacts for Apache Baremaps > 0.8.1 (incubating), release candidate 4. This is the first time we are > publishing Maven artifacts on the Nexus repo

Re: Preliminary verification of the maven artifacts

2024-12-14 Thread Julian Hyde
The Apache Software Foundation > Implementation-Title: baremaps-csv > Implementation-Version: 0.8.1 > Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation > Build-Date: 2024-11-09T13:13:45Z > Build-Jdk: 21.0.4 > Build-Version: 0.8.1 > > Best, > > Bertil > > >>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.1-rc4 (incubating)

2024-12-06 Thread Julian Hyde
Andrea, thanks for your vote. It’s helpful if you include with your vote a brief description of the steps you took to verify the release. (I will vote later, when I have a machine to download, inspect and build the release.) Julian > On Dec 6, 2024, at 07:56, Andrea Borghi > wrote: > > Hel

Re: Registration of the release

2025-01-21 Thread Julian Hyde
When I am RM, I generally use the UTC date of the vote results email, or pick a date shortly after that. I just registered “0.8.1 (incubating)” on as being released on 2024-12-19. Sorry for the delay in responding. > On Dec 20, 2024, at 12:38 AM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Dear PPMC, > > I ju

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.2-rc1 (incubating)

2025-01-14 Thread Julian Hyde
-1 jhyde (IPMC member) Copyright year is 2024, should be 2025. Hopefully this is an easy fix. Checked signatures, compiled and ran tests using JDK 17 and Maven 3.8.1, checked that contents of tar file match git tag. I’m pleased to see that this release contains Maven artifacts in the same vote.

Re: March report for Apache Baremaps

2025-03-05 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks for adding the report promptly. The Board reviews a lot of reports, and so does not like hyperlinks. Rather than > The February release summarizes well the latest developments: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/releases/tag/v0.8.2 I would say explicitly what the release a

Re: March report for Apache Baremaps

2025-03-05 Thread Julian Hyde
PS I signed the report. > On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:59 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > Thanks for adding the report promptly. > > The Board reviews a lot of reports, and so does not like hyperlinks. Rather > than > > > The February release summarizes well the lates

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Baremaps 0.8.2-rc3 (incubating)

2025-02-13 Thread Julian Hyde
+1 jhyde (IPMC member) Downloaded, checked hashes, inspected NOTICE, LICENSE, README, compared git tag with tar file contents, compiled and ran tests (JDK 17, Maven 3.8.1, Linux x86_64), ran RAT. Julian On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 5:14 AM Andrea Borghi wrote: > > Hi all, here is my vote: > > +1 non

Re: June Report for Apache Baremaps

2025-06-12 Thread Julian Hyde
I just tried to review & sign the report and I see that I have missed the deadline. My apologies, and I will try to do better next reporting cycle. I see that Calvin signed off — thank you, Calvin. Julian > On Jun 4, 2025, at 8:26 AM, Bertil Chapuis wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I’ve submi