Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

(I said it was my last reply on the list... well I'm making an exception :p ) Hi Rhonda, >You might consider this to be with a tongue-in-cheek tone joke style, >but that actually is what "privileging a male gaze position" is about. >There is a woman with few clothes for the gazing effect of male

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

* Gianfranco Costamagna [2015-04-30 12:41:27 CEST]: > > I would like to raise a complain in #debian-man, because there is many anymals > a woman, but no man at all! this is sexism about men! (just jocking, please > don't take > me seriously) > You might consider this to be with a tongue-in-c

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Quoting Marko Lindqvist (cazf...@gmail.com): > 1) I said I wait debian-women to evaluate the whole situation. As far > as I know you have not been designated to speak on their behalf. > 2) I didn't claim there's no occurrences where Sara appears in > bikinis. I said that there can be bikinis wit

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Miriam Ruiz escrebeu: > 2015-05-03 20:29 GMT+02:00 Catherine Gramze : > > > I agree that talking to upstream is unlikely to help. If they thought > > replacing a neutral character with Sara was a good idea then they are not > > likely to see any issues with Sara. They like her and want her in th

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

> On May 3, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Letna wrote: > > > I see from your comment that (as many in this thread), you haven't played > the game. This is a video depicting Sara and her kart [1], far far > different from your allusive description. > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAgyfnuc9FQ >

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 20:49 GMT+02:00 Letna : > I frankly consider this thread quizzical: first there were accusation > of racism and sexism, then the racism accusation was dropped (after > a message by a Mexican Debian Developer), then the request was to shield > children from naked skin and lastly the thre

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 20:29 GMT+02:00 Catherine Gramze : > I agree that talking to upstream is unlikely to help. If they thought > replacing a neutral character with Sara was a good idea then they are not > likely to see any issues with Sara. They like her and want her in the game. I > think they will con

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Miriam Ruiz debian.org> writes: > > 2015-05-03 19:46 GMT+02:00 Letna inbox.com>: > > Woops forgot the link > > > > [1] http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6325 > > That was posted 2 days ago ("01 May 2015, 20:54"). It's kind of > suspicious (all this discussion started the 28th o

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

> On May 3, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > > I haven't talked with upstream myself (and I don't really have plans > to do so), but I've seen some IRC logs and I don't have the feeling > that they might be very sensitive to these issues. In fact, I see a > potential problem that they m

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 20:31 GMT+02:00 Letna : > I see from your comment that (as many in this thread), you haven't played > the game. This is a video depicting Sara and her kart [1], far far > different from your allusive description. > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAgyfnuc9FQ That seems to be two

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Catherine Gramze mac.com> writes: > Will this future male character have a video clip exposing his underwear while he flexes his muscles? Will > he appear on the track sideline 8 times? Will he be a playable character, still in his swimsuit? And why is > his swimsuit not a Speedo, if a bikini is t

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 19:46 GMT+02:00 Letna : > Woops forgot the link > > [1] http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6325 That was posted 2 days ago ("01 May 2015, 20:54"). It's kind of suspicious (all this discussion started the 28th of April). Honestly, from outside at least, it seems like some

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

> On May 3, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Letna wrote: > > Catherine Gramze mac.com> writes: >> Somebody mentioned that there are no human male characters in the game. > That changes things. I can no longer >> believe the character Sara to be harmless. > > > As already mentioned by the developers themse

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Letna inbox.com> writes: > > Catherine Gramze mac.com> writes: > > Somebody mentioned that there are no human male characters in the game. > That changes things. I can no longer > > believe the character Sara to be harmless. > > As already mentioned by the developers themselves in this very th

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 3 May 2015 at 19:29, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > From: Marko Lindqvist >> There's absolutely no point in accepting sexism to Debian. In this >> particular case I don't claim to know yet if there is sexism involved, >> or are the accusations false - at least there has been multiple >> statements

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Catherine Gramze mac.com> writes: > Somebody mentioned that there are no human male characters in the game. That changes things. I can no longer > believe the character Sara to be harmless. As already mentioned by the developers themselves in this very thread, the "human male character" didn't m

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Zlatan Todoric escreveu: > And I am very much offended by your and others constant implications > of "white male heterosexuals" as we are somekind freaks of nature > and everyone else is so good. If this is what my words have at any point meant, then please let me ask for sincere apologies to all

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Somebody mentioned that there are no human male characters in the game. That changes things. I can no longer believe the character Sara to be harmless. If the only human character is a female in a bikini, and she appears 8 times around the track, then it is a deliberate addition to the game serv

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 18:40 GMT+02:00 Gaudenz Steinlin : > Vincent Lejeune writes: > >> Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just >>> having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: >>> >>

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

From: Marko Lindqvist > There's absolutely no point in accepting sexism to Debian. In this > particular case I don't claim to know yet if there is sexism involved, > or are the accusations false - at least there has been multiple > statements about how the said character is much more than just th

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune writes: > Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" a écrit : >> >> Hi Vincent, >> >> your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just >> having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: >> >> [1] >> >> Most

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune writes: > > I attached the patches in the mail. > remove_sara_pants_animation.patch can be aplied on 0.8.1 (which is > already shipping in debian testing). > The others 2 removes the monkeys in cocoa_temple and the women in > bikini in gran paradisio island. Please submit these t

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune escrebeu: > Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" a écrit : > > > > Hi Vincent, > > > > your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just > > having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: > > > > [1] > >

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 3 May 2015 at 14:40, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > Freedom is about as little censorship as possible (except extreme cases). > Freedom is what we should be protecting even if it leaves someone offended. > That is the price and it is just not possible to please everybody with > censorship. Whose F

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Miriam Ruiz escrebeu: > 2015-05-03 12:24 GMT+02:00 : > > I am devastated. > > > > In trying to understand the role of sexism in the game community, I have > > discovered that this is not an isolated issue of this game: > > No, it is certainly not, and it's not even exclusive of video games. > It

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 12:24 GMT+02:00 : > I am devastated. > > In trying to understand the role of sexism in the game community, I have > discovered that this is not an isolated issue of this game: No, it is certainly not, and it's not even exclusive of video games. It kind of extends throughout many other

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 05/03/2015 12:24 PM, suso.bale...@gmail.com wrote: > I am devastated. > > In trying to understand the role of sexism in the game community, I > have discovered that this is not an isolated issue of this game: Maybe you didn't notice, but Debian is *not* a gaming community. > https://en.wiki

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune writes: > […] > > It's not only Nintendo : I don't remember Nickelodeon shows that > display sexualised (even lightly) content. I don't know all of their > show though and they target a younger audience than STK. This is off topic, but you may need to watch iCarly:

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

I am devastated. In trying to understand the role of sexism in the game community, I have discovered that this is not an isolated issue of this game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism_in_video_gaming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy According to the press and other article

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" a écrit : > > Hi Vincent, > > your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just > having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: > > [1] > > Most Super Mario and Mario Kart games see

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder: [1] Most Super Mario and Mario Kart games seem to have a PEGI 3 and a few PEGI 7. The description for PEGI 12

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-03 0:41 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lejeune : > I attached the patches in the mail. > remove_sara_pants_animation.patch can be aplied on 0.8.1 (which is > already shipping in debian testing). > The others 2 removes the monkeys in cocoa_temple and the women in > bikini in gran paradisio island. Lots

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 23:47 GMT+02:00 Gaudenz Steinlin : > Vincent Lejeune writes: > >>>From: Brian Gupta >> >>>Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >>>parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >>>age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

iammyr wrote: > Hi Vincent, Miriam and Suso, > > I absolutely support your positions. Just dropping a line to let you know that I also see the concers raised and argued by all of you, in case it matters. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong a

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On Sat, 2 May 2015 11:34:14 iammyr wrote: > If that's the case then I perfectly see how Debian should do something > about this. It's not that because everyone is used to only see useless > females in videogames since Super Mario came along, then this should > continue happening for ever and Debian

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, Miriam and Suso, I absolutely support your positions. In particular I totally agree with this: On 01/05/15 17:39, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : a game that was presented as a family game and which had > a non hum

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune writes: >>From: Brian Gupta > >>Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >>parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >>age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, >>and would consider it appropriate for all age

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > Miriam Ruiz writes: > > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > >> Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > >> will try to end the discussion here. > > > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when >

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

>Vincent Lejeune gmail.com> writes: >> Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. >> It's rather : *snip* >Vincent, > could you please link of to the forum/mailing-list thread where you >tried to engage the STK dev-team on the matter? Because I can't find >any. It was debatt

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi All, [quoting myself] >> "we might need to patch/drop half the debian-games archive, women are>> >> like a totem for men, specially for developers, and I guess we won't >> (they, I'm not a game developer) remove them in games :)" >Yes, that is a comment making use of sexist stereotypes

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 18:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lejeune : > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : a game that was presented as a family game and which had > a non human cast for years is now adopting the stance of an > heterosexual male point of view. > It's virtually ac

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune dijo [Fri, May 01, 2015 at 06:40:01PM +0200]: > Thanks for your answer, it's interesting. > I initially asked a native american feminist about these issues on twitter, > she told me that the poster was mixing random cultural element together, > I interpreted that as offensive. But n

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune gmail.com> writes: > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : *snip* Vincent, could you please link of to the forum/mailing-list thread where you tried to engage the STK dev-team on the matter? Because I can't find any. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 4:45 GMT+02:00 Gunnar Wolf : > Vincent Lejeune dijo [Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200]: >> The poster by itself is not really about sexism, but rather about >> cultural appropriation: >> First Sara is white in what appears to be a native american like outfit. >> Then she is in front

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

>From: Brian Gupta >Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, >and would consider it appropriate for all ages. (This is by my own >relativel

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 06:01:45PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > > Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > > will try to end the discussion here. > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, wh

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Miriam Ruiz writes: > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : >> Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and >> will try to end the discussion here. > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when > the package is currently maintained by

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > will try to end the discussion here. I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when the package is currently maintained by the Debian Games Team [1].

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > > >> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included > >> > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: > >> > > >> > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or > >> > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among dev

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: >> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included >> > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: >> > >> > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or >> > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among developers

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included > > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: > > > > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or > > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among developers > > Or c) other reasons. The real wo

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: >> > Ansgar Burchardt escreveu: >> > >> > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit >> > disturbing... Same for jumping to conclusions about the authors earlier: > > Of course not that one. Judge yourself: > > http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, and would consider it appropriate for all ages. (This is by my own relatively puritanical US moral co

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

> > Ansgar Burchardt escreveu: > > > > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit > > disturbing... Same for jumping to conclusions about the authors earlier: Of course not that one. Judge yourself: http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NMD1gmJ.jpg http:

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune dijo [Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200]: > The poster by itself is not really about sexism, but rather about > cultural appropriation: > First Sara is white in what appears to be a native american like outfit. > Then she is in front of a religious building (the pyramid) and wea

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ansgar Burchardt debian.org> writes: > suso.baleato gmail.com writes: > > Pedophilic or not, a sexualized adolescent depicted following the > > standards of Hentai porn characters in a kids' game is too much to be > > ignored, sorry. > > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn char

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: > Pedophilic or not, a sexualized adolescent depicted following the > standards of Hentai porn characters in a kids' game is too much to be > ignored, sorry. I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit disturbing... Same for jumping to con

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

b...@debian.org escrebeu: > Debian has already quite its share of heated debate around sexism, > enough for me to unsubscribe from various lists to keep my sanity, so The fact is that sexist behavior produces rejection in modern societies. Debian is not an isolated bubble floating in some ivory to

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, you are totally right: those images are sexist and racist. For those who see nothing wrong with them: do you know why a swim suite can be worn only at the beach and not anywhere else? would walking in biking among other totally dressed individuals, attract sexual attention? and while b

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-04-30 23:05 GMT+02:00 : > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> To be honest I'm hoping a bit that having downstream discussing the >> representation in STK may make they change their mind. > > While I much appreciate the concern for the way a kid-oriente

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > To be honest I'm hoping a bit that having downstream discussing the > representation in STK may make they change their mind. While I much appreciate the concern for the way a kid-oriented game is depicting the female figure, I

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ingame pictures (using imgur) of Sara : http://i.imgur.com/eT0WmrV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/X8sYzYc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Zkil96v.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fNo3HDj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NMD1gmJ.jpg The Sara model in bikini is fine per se, buthaving it 8 times in a track

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Steve Langasek escrebeu: > > The phrase "male gaze" refers to content rendered from the *point of view* > of the (implicitly heterosexual) male. So images of women instead of men is > consistent with this idea, on the grounds that men would rather look at > ("sexy") images of women than at images o

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Marko, >From the screenshots on http://supertuxkart.blogspot.fi/ it seems >that she does have clothes on in the game itself (though her >cold-resistance is marvelous in the screenshot where she drives >through snowy village with bare shoulders). But in a way that makes >the poster only more poi

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 30 April 2015 at 16:43, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:50:12AM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: >> Hi to All, > >> > [1] >> >> > [2] >>

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:50:12AM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Hi to All, > > [1] > > > [2] > > I see one woman, an

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 30/04/15 07:56 AM, suso.bale...@gmail.com wrote: > I do not understand the added value of displaying sexualized > characters in the game. Perhaps the concept of a semi-naked > white woman with anorexia plays some unreplaceable role in > the storyline that, let's say, a similarly dressed but > he

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

I do not understand the added value of displaying sexualized characters in the game. Perhaps the concept of a semi-naked white woman with anorexia plays some unreplaceable role in the storyline that, let's say, a similarly dressed but healthy latino man cannot not. Not enough information. Could yo

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Margarita, >I think the issue is that the woman is scantily clad. That said, I >also don't find those posters particularly disturbing. From the >original description I expect the in-game graphics are much more >explicit and the constant appearance of scantily clad women becomes >disturbing.

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > I see one woman, and ~15 anymals, no men at all. > How can this be interpreted as "privileging a male gaze position."? I think the issue is that the woman is scantily clad. That said, I also don't find those posters particula

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi to All, > [1] > > [2] > I see one woman, and ~15 anymals, no men at all. How can this be interpreted as "privilegin

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On 04/30/2015 08:09 AM, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > I agree that this should ideally be fixed upstream. I haven't looked > at latest upstream release yet either, and I doubt I will be able to > in at least a couple of weeks, but from what it seems from Vincent > Lejeune's description, it doesn't look

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Please. Could someone share some snapshots of the contentious issue so we know what we are talking about. Thanks. Vincent Cheng escrebeu: > Hi Vincent, > > Debian supertuxkart maintainer here; I'm also cc-ing the Debian Games > team along with this reply. Please keep me cc-ed as I'm not subscr

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-04-30 7:44 GMT+02:00 Vincent Cheng : > Vincent, have you tried approaching the upstream developers and > starting a discussion with them with the goal of getting this fixed > upstream? I appreciate that you've brought your concerns about STK to > debian-women for discussion, but as maintainer

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, Debian supertuxkart maintainer here; I'm also cc-ing the Debian Games team along with this reply. Please keep me cc-ed as I'm not subscribed to debian-women (thanks to pabs for letting me know about this on IRC). I haven't actually taken a look at upstream's latest release yet, so I'm

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2015, 18:16:08 schrieb Vincent Lejeune: Hej Vincent, I think you go right to involve d-w to find comrades. And I think you do fine to involve the maintainer too. He/She is the person to turn to. On d-w you'll gain maybe support for your request. I support your engagement

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Actually you're right, I didn't really know where to submit the issue. Will do that. Sorry for the inconvenience. Le 29 avr. 2015 00:45, "Steve Langasek" a écrit : > Hi Vincent, > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > > > > > Debian still packages STK 0.8 (which do

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 4/29/15, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> >> >> >> > Debian still packages STK 0.8 (which doesnt have Sara iirc) but it >> > will eventually package 0.9. IMHO the offending materials sh

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > Hi Vincent, > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > > > > > Debian still packages STK 0.8 (which doesnt have Sara iirc) but it > > will eventually package 0.9. IMHO the offending materials should be > > stripped off fr

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > Debian still packages STK 0.8 (which doesnt have Sara iirc) but it > will eventually package 0.9. IMHO the offending materials should be > stripped off from the tracks if possible (the tracks are specified as > xml f

Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, I contribued to Supertuxkart (a kart game) new engine featured in the version (0.9). However I left the project 2 months ago because in my opinion some offending materials were included. One of the new track being showcased takes place in a "aztec like" fictionnal environment and has several