Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 09:35:52AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > First things first: the debuginfod.debian.net service exists since > > February 2021. I sent an email to debian-devel-announce[1], posted > > about it on my blog (which is syndicated on planet.debian.org) a few > > times[2], did a

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-09 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
On Wednesday, April 09 2025, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 09:35:52AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> 2/ There are also semi-official services hosted under the debian.net >> domain. They are set up in a completely bottom-up way, without any >> interaction with DSA. They are rarely

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Sergio, Hi, > I really don't understand why I wasn't Cc'ed in this thread. I wasn't > even mentioned by name. BTW, thanks to Charles for bringing this > conversation to my attention. Sergio, thanks for your work on debuginfod.d.n, and sorry for not Ccing you. (I must admit I only discovere

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-08 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
On Friday, April 04 2025, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 04/04/25 at 11:35 +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: >> >What are the recent successes I might have missed? >> >> Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols >> handling... > > Regarding gdb symbols handling, could you

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-06 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello, > >What is wrong with debuginfod.debian.net as explained in that wiki page >referenced above? It's paid with Debian funds and run by a DD. Or are >you implying that it should be run by DSA? In that case, what would be >the reasoning behind that? Nope, I was unsure about the status of an

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-06 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 06/04/25 3:30 pm, Ian Jackson wrote: > To renew this institution, we need to get rid of the toxicity first. > That means getting rid of the toxic people. > > Yes, that is disruptive and risky. But the alternative is to allow > the current situation to persist, as you have allowed it to persist

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team"): > Am Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 06:19:14PM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton: > > My basic question to you is: We agreed on almost everything that needed > > to be done. You had a team insider, me, available to ask

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-06 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Gianfranco On 2025/04/06 09:10, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: Also,https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such services outside

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-06 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello, >Also, https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is >run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it >part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such >services outside Debian, and what would you do to improve on that? I

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-05 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 05 Apr 2025 at 05:00pm +02, Andreas Tille wrote: > Correction: Thanks to Luke Faraone (delegated ftpmaster), we had a BoF > in Busan[1], so there were actually two members of the FTP team present. Ah, yes, apologies to Luke. > To my knowledge, there is no public documentation clar

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Lucas, Sorry for the short notice - I've interrupted my vacation to answer the remaining questions here. Am Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 01:11:00PM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > Hi, > > As someone who still cares a lot about Debian, but who hasn't been able > to pay as much attention to the project

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Sean, Am Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 06:19:14PM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton: > > I was the only FTP team member present at Debconf Correction: Thanks to Luke Faraone (delegated ftpmaster), we had a BoF in Busan[1], so there were actually two members of the FTP team present. In addition, Utkarsh Gupta

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-04 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 06:19:14PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote: > And to the other candidates: do you agree about the seriousness of these > issues? How will you approach them differently? How will you achieve > more? I think part of the reason here is that we have too many responsibilities tied t

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-04 Thread William Bonnet
hi all Which big challenges do you see ahead of us? AI and closed cloud systems If you or someone else decide to create an AI team you can count me in, it would be a very nice thing kind regards W.

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Gianfranco, Thanks! On 04/04/25 at 11:35 +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > >What are the recent successes I might have missed? > > Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols > handling... Regarding gdb symbols handling, could you be more specific? I found https:

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2025-04-04 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello Lucas >How is Debian doing currently? I think Debian is going great, but the market challenges shouldn't be missed. >What are the recent successes I might have missed? Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols handling... >Where did we fail or under-perform? At

Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team

2025-04-04 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello Sean, >And to the other candidates: do you agree about the seriousness of these >issues?  How will you approach them differently?  How will you achieve >more? To me looks like we should split the ftp team in two. One for the new queue handling, one for the infrastructure. If existing teams

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 3/28/25 07:56, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: Hello, In what way? Are you aware of what I've been doing over the lasr 14 years with OpenStack in Debian ? What more do we need ? You are providing the code, and the stack, not the actual paid servers for companies needing it. There might be a

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-28 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > You are providing the code, and the stack, not the actual paid servers for > companies needing it. > There might be a bunch of small/medium businesses needing some Debian server > on OpenStack without having to implement locally due to lack of knowledge/time. Debia

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-27 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello, >In what way? Are you aware of what I've been doing over the lasr 14 years with >OpenStack in Debian ? What more do we need ? You are providing the code, and the stack, not the actual paid servers for companies needing it. There might be a bunch of small/medium businesses needing some De

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-27 Thread thomas
Sent from Workspace ONE Boxer On Mar 27, 2025 12:17, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > > it is growing, but we can do better. In my opinion we might want to start > thinking about > providing some cloud infrastructure In what way? Are you aware of what I've been doing over the lasr 14 year

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
Gianfranco Costamagna writes: > yes. There are use case (e.g. automotive, safety), where you *have* to lock > the system, for good reasons. Please do not confuse the corporate desire to limit liability with actual improvements in safety. Bdale signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:39AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Dear DPL candidates > > (As always, answer as little or much as you want) > > How do you feel about organisations such as the Open Source Initiative, Free > Software Foundation and the Linux Foundation? The OSI's recent initiativ

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Dear Jonathan, thank you for another batch of questions. Am Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 07:48:39AM +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter: > > How do you feel about organisations such as the Open Source Initiative, After reading the LWN article "OSI election ends with unsatisfying results"[1], my trust in the

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread M. Zhou
On Wed, 2025-03-26 at 08:50 +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > > > And another bonus question. How do you feel about the general concept of > > free software going forward? Is it something that is growing / embraced > > by the world (big corporations, software companies, etc), or is the > >

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Il giorno mer 26 mar 2025 alle ore 11:11 Gianfranco Costamagna ha scritto: > >By "I don't like the tivoization issue" I understand you mean "I don't > >like how the GPL-3 was designed to forbid tivoization". Is that > >correct, and if so, why do you think it's a bad thing? > > yes. There are use c

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 3/26/25 19:09, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: yes. There are use case (e.g. automotive, safety), where you *have* to lock the system, for good reasons. No, because TiVo has the exact same good reasons, legally speaking. If there is free software on these devices, then the user must be

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello, >By "I don't like the tivoization issue" I understand you mean "I don't >like how the GPL-3 was designed to forbid tivoization". Is that >correct, and if so, why do you think it's a bad thing? yes. There are use case (e.g. automotive, safety), where you *have* to lock the system, for good

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > I don't really like the tivoization issue, and the whole GPL-3 ecosistem. By "I don't like the tivoization issue" I understand you mean "I don't like how the GPL-3 was designed to forbid tivoization". Is that correct, and if so, why do you think it's a bad thing? >

Re: Question to all candidates: How do you feel about OSI, FSF and LF? (and Debian while we're at it (and AI if you want to))

2025-03-26 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hello, >How do you feel about organisations such as the Open Source Initiative, >Free Software Foundation and the Linux Foundation? I think we should work closely with them, as well. >We have two candidates who have mentioned their intent to collaborate >more closely with Ubuntu, but should we

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-04-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 11:48:18AM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > I overlooked this the first time, but > > On 2024-03-29 16:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > FYI, if I didn't go forward with the project, that we've been discussing > > with Jonathan over at least 3 years, is because

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-04-11 Thread Christian Kastner
Hi Thomas, I overlooked this the first time, but On 2024-03-29 16:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > FYI, if I didn't go forward with the project, that we've been discussing > with Jonathan over at least 3 years, is because I have no idea where to > host it. I have clearly stated that having this hosted

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-04-10 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2024/04/10 16:08, Felix Lechner wrote: On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:57:55 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: every single hardware request over the last 4 years (whether from DSA or from a DD) has been approved. Mine wasn't, although I probably didn't follow the proper procedure. I just wrote a priv

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-04-10 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:57:55 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > every single hardware request over the last 4 years (whether from DSA > or from a DD) has been approved. Mine wasn't, although I probably didn't follow the proper procedure. I just wrote a private email to Jonathan. His response

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-08 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, now that the campaign period has ended, I will write my longer answer on -devel where it belongs. On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:38:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > I think this can't just be seen by looking at the statistiks. Man

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2024-04-05 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: Adrian> If I send an email requesting all data Debian has about me to Adrian> data-protect...@debian.org, will I receive a complete reply within the Adrian> expected time, including all data members of delegations like the Adrian> Debian Ac

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2024-04-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 04:38:57PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Adrian, Hi Andreas, > Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:41:17AM +0300 schrieb Adrian Bunk: >... > > Many parts of Debians Privacy Policy look questionable. > > > > For example the rights are not stated, and in addition to this being a

Re: Question to all candidates: Bits from the DPL?

2024-04-05 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 03/04/24 01:35, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: Hello! Jonathan's latest "Bits from the DPL" entry reminded me of how much I like those :) I also like reading them. What are your thoughts on the format? I like the format, but sometimes it becomes too long that I end up not finishing rea

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2024-04-05 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 05/04/24 03:11, Adrian Bunk wrote: Hi, this email has two parts: A short question where I would appreciate a "yes" or "no" answer from all candidates, and a longer explanation what and why I am asking. Question: If elected, will you commit to have a lawyer specialized in that area review

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 03/04/24 01:42, Marc Haber wrote: Dear Candidates, There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System. I believe that Debian is both a technology project and a community. What are you planning to do to Debian f

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Adrian, Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:41:17AM +0300 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > this email has two parts: > A short question where I would appreciate a "yes" or "no" answer from > all candidates, and a longer explanation what and why I am asking. > > > Question: > > If elected, will you commit to h

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 at 11:18, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:41:00PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > > Please don't get me wrong: I do not consider Fedora a commercial > > > entity. I simply subscribe the statement that we are facing some > > > problems in Debian since we ar

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:41:00PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > Please don't get me wrong: I do not consider Fedora a commercial > > entity. I simply subscribe the statement that we are facing some > > problems in Debian since we are not a commercial entity. > > I think the framing is slight

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 09:55:33PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 21:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > > > > In practical terms, it would probably be made easier if it was > > > mandatory for all packages to be on Salsa, either in the 'debian' > > > namespace or in a team n

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 21:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > > In practical terms, it would probably be made easier if it was > > mandatory for all packages to be on Salsa, either in the 'debian' > > namespace or in a team namespace (but not under individual users). > > Realistically, even if you decid

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 13:40, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Hi Luca, > > Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:47:11PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > > > That's the price we currently pay for being not a commercial entity, > > > > > > I fully subscribe to this statement. > > > > I don't think commercial entities

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Luca, Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:47:11PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > As far as I know other major distributions do not undertake the time_t > > 64bit transition (whether this marks leadership or not is questionable > > but it will make us the leading distribution on those architectures in

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 11:39, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > "we now use Wayland > > instead of X11", "please don't create your system users with adduser and >

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Marc, Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I see a big problem that we do not follow common standards. While we > > have some teams with strict policies setting those standards internally > > to a diff

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-03 Thread Marc Haber
[snipped everything that I don't have an answer for. Neither removal nor quoting is endorsement or reject of what Andreas said.] On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:12:56PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > > There are many people who see Debian as

Re: Question to all candidates: Bits from the DPL?

2024-04-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Andreas" == Andreas Tille writes: Andreas> I was told in private that a daily log in Git might be a bit tough but Andreas> I hope to manage. I consider it a good preparation for the monthly Bits. I think I recall inheriting some infrastructure from Chris for maintaining some DPL

Re: Question to all candidates: What are your technical goals

2024-04-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Marc, Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:12:56PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber: > There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the > technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System. > > What are you planning to do to Debian from a technical and technological > point of view

Re: Question to all candidates: Bits from the DPL?

2024-04-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Lous-Philippe, Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau: > Jonathan's latest "Bits from the DPL" entry reminded me of how much I like > those :) > > What are your thoughts on the format? > > If you are elected, do you plan to publish regular "Bits"? If not, ho

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-29 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 27/03/24 04:54, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account for Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it? From Jonathan's mail, I think we do not have too much money unused now. Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware fo

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 3/27/24 08:51, Andreas Tille wrote: Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new Debian cloud, for example? I've always volunteered to operate it for Debian, but it never went through, because I haven't spent time to find where to host it and so on, but highvoltage liked the

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 3/27/24 11:25, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Hi, Thomas Goirand wrote on 27/03/2024 at 00:24:30+0100: Hi, As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account for Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it? Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new De

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi! On 2024/03/27 12:25, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new Debian cloud, for example? I've always volunteered to operate it for Debian, but it never went through, because I haven't spent time to find where to host it and so on, but highvol

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-27 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Hi, Thomas Goirand wrote on 27/03/2024 at 00:24:30+0100: > Hi, > > As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account > for Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it? > > Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new Debian > cloud, for example? I've always

Re: Question to all candidates: what to do with the Debian money, shall we invest in hardware and cloud?

2024-03-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Thomas, Am Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 12:24:30AM +0100 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account for > Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it? While I admit that I'm not well informed about the status of the acount currently I'm perfectly op

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-04-03 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Felix, It seems there's much more behind the scenes than I happen to know... So, with the little context I have, I keep believing that your reimbursement request is appropriate. And, for *just* not following the proper procedure, such a request shouldn't be ultimately refused, IMO. Bests, --

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 02, 2022 at 12:21:24PM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote: > On 2022-04-02 10:55, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Where does our Privacy Policy[1] describe personal data where Debian and > > the community team are joint controllers? > > > Where does our Privacy Policy describe personal data where

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Ansgar
Hi Adrian, On Fri, 2022-04-01 at 23:48 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Will this handwritten note be available through > contributors.debian.org? > > If the personal information in the handwritten note did not come > directly from the person, who at Debian is responsible to ensure that > the person

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2022-04-02 10:55, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Where does our Privacy Policy[1] describe personal data where Debian and > the community team are joint controllers? > Where does our Privacy Policy describe personal data where Debian and > DAM are joint controllers? Has it been established yet that Deb

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 09:25:46PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2022/04/01 20:28, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data > > Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing > > all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: > Adrian> Your "services" approach does not work for the non-trivial > Adrian> cases where Debian might be a (joint) controller of personal > Adrian> data. > > Adrian> The Debian C

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 22:16:55 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote: > One option would be to outsource this work to our paid GDPR lawyer. Is there any option to cooperate with other FLOSS organizations? They would have the same issue and we may be able to share it and costs ;) -- Hideki Yamane

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: Adrian> Your "services" approach does not work for the non-trivial Adrian> cases where Debian might be a (joint) controller of personal Adrian> data. Adrian> The Debian Community Team promises confidentiality regarding Adrian> personal inf

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 09:18:53PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Adrian Bunk > > > Who will fulfill the request within the legal limit of one month if > > a person sends an email to data-protect...@debian.org asking whether > > Debian is a (joint) controller of any data about this person, an

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2022/04/01 20:28, Adrian Bunk wrote: Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1] so far, and with their reply having been proof-read by our GDPR lawyer?

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 08:46:42PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Adrian Bunk > > > Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data > > Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing > > all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1] so far, and with

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 07:40:02PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >... > This isn't the role of the data protection team, though, any more than > owner@bugs is responsible for fixing all the bugs in all the packages. > I'm quite happy to act as a redirector (as per the first part of the > delegation

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Adrian Bunk > Who will fulfill the request within the legal limit of one month if > a person sends an email to data-protect...@debian.org asking whether > Debian is a (joint) controller of any data about this person, and > if yes requests a copy of all data? To make this easier for services a

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 09:28:53PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data > Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing > all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1] so far, and with their > reply having been pro

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 07:02:15PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Adrian Hi Jonathan, >... > I'm not sure bringing in the lawyer as a first step is optimal, they are > expensive and will probably tell us a lot of things we already know. IMHO > it's better to do some initial groundwork, compil

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Adrian Bunk > Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data > Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing > all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1] so far, and with their > reply having been proof-read by our GDPR lawyer? I don't think th

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Jonathan Carter > So, I would appreciate it if the data protection team could look into > all of the issues we know of in Debian, but I'd also like there to be > a process where people can file issues with the data protection > team. I'll admit I had to search a bit to find the data-protection

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Adrian (I'm including the data-protection team, perhaps they can expand on your question or comment on my feedback) On 2022/03/31 22:08, Adrian Bunk wrote: The discussion starting in [1] is about privacy in Debian with a focus on the GDPR of the European Union. It started with the GDPR,

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-04-01 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 23:08:41 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote: > If elected, will you ask our Data Protection team and our GDPR lawyer to > jointly do a review of all handling of personal data in Debian regarding > GDPR compliance, Yes. > and make the results of the review available to all > dev

Re: Question to all candidates: rotation on positions of power

2022-03-31 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Charles, On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:51:44 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote: > I expect a term limit to increase rotation on the positions of power, > with the following benefits: > > - reduce the risk of burn-out of the delegates, > > - motivate fresh people to have the ambition to serve in these >

Re: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review

2022-03-31 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Adrian, On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:24 PM Adrian Bunk wrote: > > The discussion starting in [1] is about privacy in Debian with a focus > on the GDPR of the European Union. > > There seems to be a general agreement that privacy in Debian falls > short of the legal minimum requirements at least i

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-30 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2022/03/30 07:33, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 20:47 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: It furthermore seems that I did not follow the proper process when filing my request, as Paul Wise pointed out. My reference to the Hardware/Wanted wiki page was referring to the procedure for after y

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 20:47 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > It furthermore seems that I did not follow the proper process when > filing my request, as Paul Wise pointed out. My reference to the Hardware/Wanted wiki page was referring to the procedure for after you have bought hardware, no longer ne

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-29 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Tiago, On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > > Given that Jonathan, after lots of research as he describes in this > thread, has stated that such request never reached him, can you clarify > how can you have even complied to a request for more information from him? > >

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2022-03-29 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Ted, On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 1:39 PM Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > I'll note that you spent a lot of time about how the council would > appoint a chair and vice-chair, create bylaws, meet monthly, etc. > > However you didn't really answer the question regarding what the > authorities that the Strat

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2022-03-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 01:57:59PM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi Lucas, > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > Interesting. What would be the composition, roles, duties of that > > Strategy Council ? > > Like all committees and boards I envision, the Strategy Counc

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2022-03-27 at 18:34 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > One thing people have been really concerned about when asking for Debian > to buy hardware is, is what happens to the hardware after they're done > with it? So far I've just told them that they can try to pass it on to > another DD who

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Richard (2022.03.27_20:17:48_+) > > The only cases of waste I know of happens when people ask for > > sponsorship for DebConf and then hotel space is made for them (and > > possibly other expenses) and then they just don't show up without any > > heads-up. Even those are rare, but it's the o

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/27/22 11:14, Jonathan Carter wrote: The only cases of waste I know of happens when people ask for sponsorship for DebConf and then hotel space is made for them (and possibly other expenses) and then they just don't show up without any heads-up. Even those are rare, but it's the only instan

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Felix, On 2022-03-24 8:18 p.m., Felix Lechner wrote: [...] > > For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help > operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I > didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for > more informa

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Richard On 2022/03/24 22:17, Richard Laager wrote: The disbursements that I've heard about seem to be relatively "small potatoes" things. Is there some huge wasteful spending occurring that I've missed? Most of it is small potatoes (typically less than $1000, typically for hardware or tra

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Paul On 2022/03/26 01:27, Paul Wise wrote: We have these documents related to that: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL#Money https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/AskingForMoney https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines These were written by Stefano Zacchiroli in 2010 when he was DP

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 11:41 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > I still want to work towards having an expenditure policy, ... > The idea would be that there's some clear document that makes it > really easy for someone to know whether they can apply for something > or not, and I think if it hits a

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2022-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Lucas On 2022/03/17 17:54, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: As someone who used to care a lot about Debian, but who hasn't been able to pay much attention to the project lately, I was wondering: I don't think anyone would hold it against you that you've got busy with other stuff, having a life outsid

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2022/03/25 11:41, Jonathan Carter wrote: For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for more information, with which I complied)

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Felix On 2022/03/25 02:18, Felix Lechner wrote: For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for more information, with which I c

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-24 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/24/22 19:18, Felix Lechner wrote: For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for more information, with which I complied) even

Re: Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects

2022-03-24 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Richard, On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 1:17 PM Richard Laager wrote: > > The disbursements that I've heard about seem to be relatively "small > potatoes" things. Is there some huge wasteful spending occurring that > I've missed? I don't know. As an outside candidate, I received no confidential brie

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-24 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/24/22 15:45, Sam Hartman wrote: "Richard" == Richard Laager writes: Richard> On 3/20/22 07:10, Felix Lechner wrote: >> If we accidentally formed a General Partnership, as has been >> suggested elsewhere Richard> Yes, that would be really dumb for a number of reasons.

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-24 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Richard" == Richard Laager writes: Richard> On 3/20/22 07:10, Felix Lechner wrote: >> If we accidentally formed a General Partnership, as has been >> suggested elsewhere Richard> Yes, that would be really dumb for a number of reasons. The problem is that at least in the U

Re: Question to all candidates: registering Debian as an organization

2022-03-24 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/20/22 07:10, Felix Lechner wrote: If we accidentally formed a General Partnership, as has been suggested elsewhere Yes, that would be really dumb for a number of reasons. I have friends who are or were high-ranking officials at the UN. With the project's permission, I might explore findi

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