On Friday, April 04 2025, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 04/04/25 at 11:35 +0000, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: >> >What are the recent successes I might have missed? >> >> Server adoption, market share, reproducibility efforts, gdb symbols >> handling... > > Regarding gdb symbols handling, could you be more specific? I found > https://wiki.debian.org/DebugPackage (no changes since 2019) and > https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace (no change since 2021). > Also, https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is > run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it > part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such > services outside Debian, and what would you do to improve on that?
On Sunday, April 06 2025, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: >>What is wrong with debuginfod.debian.net as explained in that wiki page >>referenced above? It's paid with Debian funds and run by a DD. Or are >>you implying that it should be run by DSA? In that case, what would be >>the reasoning behind that? > > Nope, I was unsure about the status of an actual server. Last time I spoke > with > the mentioned DD I remember the support inside gdb was still not upstream, > and setting up a server was still something not yet done. > I didn't test it yet, but I'm happy to see it live! > (also, it would be nice to know why can't we have one single server for both > Debian and Ubuntu and Fedora and so on). Maybe it is already one :) Hello, I really don't understand why I wasn't Cc'ed in this thread. I wasn't even mentioned by name. BTW, thanks to Charles for bringing this conversation to my attention. First things first: the debuginfod.debian.net service exists since February 2021. I sent an email to debian-devel-announce[1], posted about it on my blog (which is syndicated on planet.debian.org) a few times[2], did a few presentations during DebConfs about it[3][4], and more often than not I talk to people about the service and let them know. Yes, I am a Debian Developer, and yes, this service runs on Debian-sponsored infrastructure. Right after I put the service online I reached out to DSA and expressed my desire to run the service on official infrastructure. I only received an official reply from the team a few months ago. I still have to sit down and follow up on that. Last year I was planning to implement some major improvements to the service, but life got in the way. The most important thing I want to do is to adjust the service so that it indexes and serves source code as well, which is truly a life changer when you're debugging something. I am also the person who set up and maintained Ubuntu's debuginfod service, and it supports source code indexing for most packages now. Give it a try if you'd like to know how it feels. I'm still planning to work on source code indexing for our service this year. Hopefully I can have some proof of concept ready to demonstrate during DebConf. Please Cc me in subsequent emails, as I'm not actively following debian-vote. Thank you, [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/02/msg00003.html [2]: https://blog.sergiodj.net/posts/debuginfod-for-debian/ [3]: https://debconf22.debconf.org/talks/88-debuginfoddebiannet-current-status-and-next-steps/ [4]: https://debconf24.debconf.org/talks/132-a-plan-to-support-source-code-indexing-on-debuginfoddn/ -- Sergio GPG key ID: 237A 54B1 0287 28BF 00EF 31F4 D0EB 7628 65FC 5E36 Please send encrypted e-mail if possible https://sergiodj.net/
