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opinions into value, rather than hostility.
Enrico
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:07:18AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
> I support this effort, especially after the heat I've seen in the
> systemd and RMS GRs, were social dynamics went far beyond the democratic
> curiosity of polling where people stand, and strong peer pressure was
> c
Debian Members, public ballots. I
like a GR with a range of options.
Thank you for driving this!
Enrico
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On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> It seems highly likely that the message to which I'm replying was not
> sent or authorized by Enrico, and that its sender is trying to mislead
> Debian members by impersonating a prominent and respected developer.
I
nical
contributions.
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ill be called Debian Grandiose Reflection.
The first GR using this scheme will concern the introduction of this
voting scheme for the future.
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on from having a significant amount of the
community energy spent on *handling Stallman*. And now he's supposed to
be back "and I'm not planning to resign a second time"?
Stallman can certainly *speak* about Free Software. Stallman cannot
*lead* the Free Software movement, or a
actual question: should Debian consider things
like that to be within its problem space?
If all goes well and you have a magic wand and everything, how do you
see the Debian ecosystem dealing with money problems a few years into
the future?
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ret my vote as a vote against the idea of a Debian
Foundation, underestimating support for something you care about.
Enrico
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:03:13PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2020/03/18 11:58, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > Note that another option available to address this, which has been used
> > before and isn't used as often as it could, is to ask DAM to have a look
> > at the
another option available to address this, which has been used
before and isn't used as often as it could, is to ask DAM to have a look
at the missing membership problem.
Enrico
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ess like this looks to me like an
interesting move in some competitive board game. I would prefer to see
less competition, and more cooperative focus on trying to make Policy
unstuck while trying to keep pain to a minimum.
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:16:10PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I'd like submit the following proposal:
> Proposal: Focus on systemd to promote standardization and cross-distribution
> cooperation
Seconded.
Enrico
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upport exploring alternatives
Choice 3: Focus on systemd for init system and other facilities
Choice 4: Support non-systemd systems, without blocking progress
Choice 5: Support for multiple init systems is Required
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s
consensus on a
direction seems unclear.
I guess that's why the election is for a Debian Project Leader, and not
for a Debian Project Boss :P
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bout the way
forward[1]. When instead there is a general idea of a way forward, I
think it's more likely that the energy gets focused on making it happen.
Enrico
[1] when in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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ng-in-verses-calling-out
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/01/guide-to-calling-in/
https://ofcourseitsaboutyou.com/2014/01/23/calling-out-vs-calling-in-how-activist-techniques-can-be-used-to-decrease-lateral-violence-and-bullying-in-nursing/
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disclose only after they ACK it
- [FUU] message written unthinkingly by instinct, and posted on -private to
avoid making a fool of oneself on lists that are publicly archived
forever: do not forward message to list and ask a friend to have a
quiet word in front of a drink
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for re-election?
How do you imagine Debian to be in the distant future of IT, say, three
years from now?
Enrico
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:50:36PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
> In nm.debian.org's nightly maintenance I run a lot of code that computes
> differences between these data sources, so we have the capability of
> tracking things, and the possibility of manually tweaking nm.debian.org
&
Uploading includes "stew" who was moved to emeritus back in
> January:
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/keyring/keyring.git/commit/?id=b768c0a3506631ddeacf4c80ba8f3be6995e8a8f
> and "finger s...@db.debian.org" correctly returns no active fingerprint
> for the user.
&g
understanding that DAM says that nm.debian.org is
> > authoritative.
> That is the eventual goal but at present various pieces of information
> are manually updated. Enrico and keyring-maint have been working on
> making it easier for nm.d.o to track keyring changes but there's
e some talking about merging
contributors.debian.org and MIA databases at DebConf and get things more
streamlined MIA-wise, but I haven't yet managed to follow suite.
This said, note that an inactive DD who votes regularly would not
be included as a WaT run, because a vote gets counted as activ
3 ] Choice 3: Brian Nelson
> [ 4 ] Choice 4: None Of The Above
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Ciao,
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itator for the
project, and I like the idea of exploring that job description.
Ciao,
Enrico
[1] the DPL campaign seems to be the only time in Debian where you can
ask someone to do something and be reasonably confident that they'll
do it[2], and I wanted to enjoy this unusual feeli
cautiousness and defensiveness
accordingly.
That use case is something that I think now is addressed by close
friends who are already in Debian and can provide support and take
action. We may currently be leaving out those who do not already have
close peers who are already well settled in Debian.
ing that we may do as a project to address the
political side of the matter, is to add to our technical decision a list
of things that we wish our upstreams would do to make all our lives
easier in the future.
Ciao,
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person to take care of that yet another urgent thing that popped up at
lea...@debian.org just while they were about to go wear some gloves and
clean their bathroom.
Or, if you reall want to invest money on this, perhaps we could consider
paying someone to do the DPL's housework instead :
t;
> TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE
Seconded.
Ciao,
Enrico
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on last year
(if at all possible)'.
...which might not be just limited to 'things Zack can do better', but
also 'things the rest of Debian can do better in order make the DPL do
better'.
Ciao,
Enrico
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ned over time: give
talks and interviews, ping people, put people in touch with people.
Because of that, I think the process of picking what active member of
the project we will particularly listen to for the next year, could do
with a lot less drama than we're used to.
Ciao,
Enrico
-packaging work as Debian Developers.
>
> * Initiate the appropriate technical measures to enable contributors of
> non-packaging work, who get accepted as Debian Developers, to
> participate in Debian decision making and to access Debian
> infrastructure.
Seconded.
Ciao,
Enr
date. If you feel compelled to start a broad discussion
about NM now, please feel free to do so on debian-newma...@l.d.o.
Ciao,
Enrico
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to participate in Debian decision making and to access
> Debian infrastructure.
> -------
Seconded.
Ciao,
Enrico
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as a whole agrees with them or not. However, I don't
> know why Enrico hasn't submitted such a vote.
I didn't because they are more like a list of useful suggestions to
improve online communication, kind of like a HOWTO, rather than a policy
to be followed.
Ciao,
Enr
7) There is no initial policy or plans for use of the keyring outside
>the archive. Individuals who wish to reuse the keyring for granting
>access to services to some or all Debian Maintainers may do so
>according to their own judgement, of course.
>
>In particular, this means that Debian maintainers do not participate
>in the general resolution procedure defined in the Debian constitution,
>and cannot vote in Debian elections.
>
> Debian Maintainers Proposal
Ciao,
Enrico
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the main proponents of either result would work
together (offline? on the wiki?) on a single short text that would
summarise both positions in a way that they both think is fair.
A few suggestions for trying to have a better list archive next time can
found in http://people.debian.org/~enrico/
(like all udebs), and firmware included in
> the kernel itself as part of Debian Etch, without further conditions.
>
>
> We want to emphasize that the success of this GR is considered as
> necessary by the kernel and release team for successfully delivering etch
> in time (and to allow us a successful planning of that).
...and get Lars tatooed! :)
Ciao,
Enrico
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ht, and I can't come out with
anything better.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/08/msg00053.html
Ciao,
Enrico
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not; also, it would not rule
out the vision of some of us who'd like to see source code for most
firmware as well, maybe not in etch, or etch+1, or etch+n, but possibly
in etch+n+1.
Ciao,
Enrico
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tently.
For those who read Debian lists through Slashdot, what we're seeing here
is a DPL candidate accusing Jeroen, promising to provide evidence, and
then being vague when asked to do it.
Ciao,
Enrico curious to see what the krooger index of Debian instanity[1] will
be this year.
main thing in Debian is the technical work
that we all do everyday.
> (6) Has your DPL team had any meetings already, for which minutes could be
> published?
Not that I've seen. There's an IRC channel where people are gathered,
but there's been no formal meeting TTBOMK.
My
e had concerns over
> ftp-master communication, consensus within the project, appropriate
> reactions to anti-social behaviour and so on.
Well, you can't say that I didn't try:
http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/
It just hasn't been marketed as a DPL team effort, because it&
o pry so much. The very vague
> statements you made about things that can't be disclosed really piqued
> my curiosity.
No problem at all. It sucks to have important discussions happening
behind the scenes, actually; besides being generally unfair, one also
loses a fair amount of pee
m wondering if you're referring to me. If
> so, I didn't express myself clearly. Let me know if you're referring
> to me and I'll try to elaborate what I meant.
Yup, that was from my memories of our conversation at FOSDEM: I'm sorry
if I have misuderstood or misre
ake a little bit of these questions
past the campaigning time, and come out from time to time with something
like:
'Dear DPL, what do you think are the biggest issues in Debian at the
moment, and what ways out do you see?'
There's lots of fantasy and smartness going into question
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:42:51PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
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Ops, mistake.
Which in a way was good because I n
2: GFDL-licensed works without unmodifiable sections are free
> [ 3 ] Choice 3: GFDL-licensed works are compatible with the DFSG [needs 3:1]
> [ 4 ] Choice 4: Further discussion
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Ciao,
Enrico
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Ciao,
Enrico
[1]
http://people.debian.org/~enrico/talks/2004debconf/
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:36:41AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 08:39:22PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > I can't think of a precedent of boycott, so I'll make one up. Let's
> > say for example that James Troup, a key person in Debian who
who use Debian for testing and have
> their own "Carrier Grade" derivative.
You forgot myself:
Enrico Zini as well, employed part-time by Canonical[1] until the end
of February, possibly more if I find the time.
> Was this intentional?
No, it was not intentional. I d
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