Dear Joerg,
In your message, you're asking Ian to accept that the work from the
ftpmaster side will be completed, and so raising the threat of a GR is
not appropriate.
Please put yourself in our shoes, and consider whether this is a
reasonable thing to ask Ian to accept, in these circumstances.
Hello,
>
>What is wrong with debuginfod.debian.net as explained in that wiki page
>referenced above? It's paid with Debian funds and run by a DD. Or are
>you implying that it should be run by DSA? In that case, what would be
>the reasoning behind that?
Nope, I was unsure about the status of an
Hi,
This is not related to the election, but I would like to propose to the
next DPL we organize a "call for donations".
First, we need to organize a "call for people interesting to organize a
call for donations" to gather volunteers to discuss ideas for the campaign.
It would be important
Simon Richter writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR
draft: tag2upload key installation)"):
> Git is not a packaging tool. There is no way to have a "native"
> git-based packaging workflow.
Certainly there is. We've built it.
Theare are at least two really good ones
Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR
draft: tag2upload key installation)"):
> > We are waiting because the DPL won't authorise an "NMU", despite
> > - the team involved being well-known as dysfunctional for many years
> > - the team's explicit position
On 06.04.25 13:01, Simon Richter wrote:
I can explain the sequence
… which mayyybe you might look at from the perspective of
somebody-new-interested-in-contributing-to-Debian.
1. use 'apt source x' to get the source package
Use dgit. You get a git repo along with it.
Or simply "git clone", f
On 06.04.25 13:21, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Because you do not think it neccessary by force implies that everyone
has to think so?
Note that we can easily flip that statement. Because in effect, *just*
because you think it's necessary everybody *does* have to think so,
regardless of whether it's
On 17556 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote:
We aren't waiting because ftpmaster haven't done the work agreed
in 2024, that only they want. That work is *not necessary*.
Because you do not think it neccessary by force implies that everyone
has to think so?
You do not want it. The team that does
On 06/04/25 3:30 pm, Ian Jackson wrote:
> To renew this institution, we need to get rid of the toxicity first.
> That means getting rid of the toxic people.
>
> Yes, that is disruptive and risky. But the alternative is to allow
> the current situation to persist, as you have allowed it to persist
Hi,
On 4/5/25 19:41, Daniel Gröber wrote:
I only joined Debian in 2024 and since then one thing has become abundantly
clear to me: it's dying because potential contributors are put off by our
archaic, fragmented and most importantly not natively git-based workflow(s!).
Git is not a packaging
Hi Nilesh,
I remember hearing a pointer from a few folks that one of the reasons for
higher cost of debconf 23 and 24 was it due to being in Asia while most of
the DDs live in Europe.
As a result, the travel costs bumped up the overall conference expense.
That is true, but the biggest groups w
Gianfranco Costamagna writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for
volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)"):
> I know after a lot of development, watching the result of the job
> not being live due to missing work on somebody else hands is...
> sad...
It can be deployed, and we
Gianfranco Costamagna writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for
volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)"):
> The months before a stable release pose a really high pressure on
> ftpmasters workload,
This is so frustrating! I have already explained why this is
completely irrele
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: Question to all candidates: the FTP Team"):
> Am Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 06:19:14PM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton:
> > My basic question to you is: We agreed on almost everything that needed
> > to be done. You had a team insider, me, available to ask for advice on
> > how to
Hi Gianfranco
On 2025/04/06 09:10, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote:
Also,https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is
run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it
part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such
services outside
On 05.04.25 23:37, Brian May wrote:
An added complexity is that sometimes upstream will add non-DFSG
compliant files to their source, and as such we have to repackage the
upstream orig tar.gz file to remove these files.
Maybe it's (finally?) time to re-think most-if-not-all of that.
As in, in
Hello,
>Also, https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is
>run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it
>part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such
>services outside Debian, and what would you do to improve on that?
I
Hello, I don't want to participate in this thread right now, but I just want to
propose a different view of the topic
> We don't know what ftpmaster think should happen next since they
> haven't said. There is no indication that ftpmaster will start the
> implementation work, nor that they are p
18 matches
Mail list logo
