Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)"): > > We are waiting because the DPL won't authorise an "NMU", despite > > - the team involved being well-known as dysfunctional for many years > > - the team's explicit position being that they don't want tag2upload > > - the team having failed to deliver on its promises > > - a complete lack of communication from that team > > The second point is a lie, and you know it. [...]
Since I have been accused of lying, I guess I need to provide receipts. ftpmaster's firm response in 2019, explained at length, was no. [0] frpmaster's first response in 2024 was no [1], and only a 1000-message thread and a formal GR proposal got us to the compromise agreement. [2] frpmaster's first response to our request for key installation, was an obnoxious mail [3] followed by "no" [4] (private mails, sorry). Each time, the starting point is "no" and only intense negotiation has (sometimes) produced anything other than "no". (By tag2upload we mean the system that Sean and I designed, not some in our view far inferior counterproposal from ftpmaster; see [5]) Ian. [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/08/msg00521.html [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/06/msg00008.html [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/07/msg00024.html [3] <b34209005ae4b22adcf1c1fc75db9fc57cf5e788.ca...@debian.org> [4] <874izuc52f....@ganneff.de> [5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/06/msg00204.html -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. Pronouns: they/he. If I emailed you from @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.