Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 05:58:09 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-27, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> In spite of posts about it in -user, you are just about clueless > >> about status of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, aren't > >> you? > > > >

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 08:34:17 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> in Bullseye it appears that > >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' won't even kind of sort > >> of maybe work in specifically unspecified cases (if

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 10:54:56 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It may, looks as if it could, but by itself lacks sufficient > > context to ring any bells. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg747147.ht >ml >

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 11:38:14 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:07:24 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 12:53:15 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:26:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So: delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules AND edit /e/n/i > > to put it back on eth0 where it belongs and it should work. > > Only

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 15:42:56 Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > if you can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M > > script again. &

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:04:48 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > > if you c

Re: udev being an ass, SOLVED

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
irmware by me, are one day closer by priority mail. > This prevents the recreation of > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules which means your interfaces > will not be saved across reboots. You'll go through the fun steps of > having the system pull interfaces out of a hat and

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 08:45:47 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN if > > I move this boot drive to a whole new box. > > > > This machine does i

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 09:26:25 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-29 13:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN > >> if I move this bo

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 12:55:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:41:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Its all hosts file based, no dhcp involved this side of the router. > > If the desired fqdn is not in the /etc/hosts file, which is > > identical on al

Re: udev being an ass, SOLVED

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
whole circus to square 1 and keep it there. The puzzle to me is why did it take a weeks worth of name calling and denegrateing each other to finally elicit a working answer. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. P

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
y embolism that starved my brain in and out of reality for several hours while the clot buster shot was working when I was 79. Survival rates for one of those things is very poor. The next best score out of 136 boys that day was 37. They were looking for machine gun targets for Korea at the ti

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 30 August 2019 03:47:09 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > If you can't say something constructive Brian, please just stfu. I > > won't claim to speak for the rest of the list, but I am damned tired > > of your negative attitude. You hav

Re: "partition name" versus "filesystem label" -- authoritative references?

2019-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
x27;t > > be used. > > As far as I am aware, the best knowledge on GPT is found here: > https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ > > - Jonas I've been looking for something like that tut for quite a while, bookmarked for future study. Thank you Jonas. Cheers, Gene Heskett --

starting a new trail for a pi3b.

2019-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
ld an arm64, deb format version of linuxcnc. That would be a good sized feather in my hat! Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we

nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-01 Thread Gene Heskett
e the options in nanorc that shut this off if it clashes with something else? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must fir

Re: nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 September 2019 02:16:25 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2019-09-02 02:03 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've enabled a bunch of options that make nano a better editor, like > > line numbers and smooth scrolling so you can better track where you > > are in a file.

Re: nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 September 2019 02:16:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-09-02 02:03 (UTC-0400): > > I've enabled a bunch of options that make nano a better editor, like > > line numbers and smooth scrolling so you can better > > Smooth scrolling doesn&#x

Re: nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 September 2019 03:10:08 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-09-02 02:55 (UTC-0400): > > That half a screen height jump is a huge distraction. > > It would if it happened here, but what half a screen jump? An up or > down arrow is three lines here, wou

Re: test

2019-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
eviously been received here. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis

Re: nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 September 2019 12:07:48 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Sep 2019 at 06:50:34 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 02 September 2019 03:10:08 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-09-02 02:55 (UTC-0400): > > > > That half

Re: nano copy/paste dead

2019-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 September 2019 16:05:52 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Sep 2019 at 13:16:28 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 02 September 2019 12:07:48 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 02 Sep 2019 at 06:50:34 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 02

stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; So what utility thats supposed to monitor that, has taken a holiday? Thanks All. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect f

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
23:58:43 coyote dirmngr[2677]: command 'ISVALID' failed: No CRL known I have replaced the bios battery, and restored the bios defaults to no avail. I'll next try an older but still stretch kernel. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of libert

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 00:28:54 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 05 September 2019 20:10:07 bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <201909051911.42570.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > > > Why do you continue with this type of post? It's a joke. I'm > > shock

usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
links to the old address will not be backed up either, so we need a better idea. Open to suggestions. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 10:06:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I don't have a good reason to object to the usr merge, but its > > causing amanda to crash the systems that have ha

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 September 2019 19:11:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > So what utility thats supposed to monitor that, has taken a holiday? > > Thanks All. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett I found it. A staples brand usb hub that has served on the end of an extension

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> I could very easily see amanda itself breaking from usrmerge, if it > >> contains programs

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 11:58:15 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 05:52:15PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > On Friday 06 September 2019 10:20:14 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > I could very eas

Re: stretch: amd64, no dmesg when usb stuff plugged in

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 12:53:54 Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:44:45 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I found it. A staples brand usb hub that has served on the end of an > > extension cable, as a place to plugin the dongles for the > > keyboard

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 September 2019 13:30:30 Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 13:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 06 September 2019 11:52:15 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 06/09/2019 à 16:39, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > On Friday 06 September 201

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
adjustments to his installation. I've made several adjustments, with zero end effect Charles. The clues, dim and smoky as they are, seem to be pointing to something that kills the networking, without actually logging a single error in the /var/log/amanda tree. If and when we find it, its g

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
down, count to 10, back up, slow reboot, culminating in the usual xfce4 login screen. Probably with the 2 SSD's unmounted, I need to attack /etc/fstab and fix that. They were mounted and usable when amanda came calling. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defe

attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
greetings all; There is only a split second of activity of the green led, then it just sits there, no on screen msg of any kind. What did I do wrong in dd-ing the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 17:26:33 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > There is only a split second of activity of the green led, then it > > just sits there, no on screen msg of any kind.  What did I do wrong > > in dd-ing the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-s

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 17:34:49 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > There is only a split second of activity of the green led, then it > > just sits there, no on screen msg of any kind.  What did I do wrong > > in dd-ing the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-s

Re: usr merge apparently breaks amanda

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 18:07:01 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:58:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The manifestation matches, but having read thru amanda's tools own > > logs, on that machine, I am not so sure we've pointed the finger in >

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 20:09:44 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is what I am trying to boot from, a 64GB u-sd with its > > filestystem changed from NTFS to #6 (fat16) in fdisk.  May not have > > the mbr or gpt table properly formatted. Will try gpart

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 02:18:38 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What did I do wrong in dd-ing > > the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? > > Please give us a link so that we can identify and test whatever > file you are

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 02:18:38 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What did I do wrong in dd-ing > > the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? > > Please give us a link so that we can identify and test whatever > file you are

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 03:59:01 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > > debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso > > SD card seems to be the intended target for netboot images. > E.g. > > http://ftp.debian.or

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 04:03:00 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have a bigger 4 amp supply  but haven't rigged it with output > > jumpers yet. > > But in the specs of the RPI4 it says it requires a 3A PWR supply. Thats not listed on the multi-language

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 05:51:43 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? > > I have attempted to find relevant info from the Debian project > for you. I found these two pages, which seem to be recently &

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 06:05:37 didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: > Debian Buster is not yet ready for Raspberry Pi 4: > > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ Potential timeline? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 06:12:08 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 19:51, David wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? > > > > I don't know about the Debian ARM images, but if > > they

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 07:42:36 Michael Howard wrote: > On 08/09/2019 12:39, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 08 September 2019 03:59:01 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > &g

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:32:30 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have also been thru your installer docs, without finding specific > > procedures for initializing the u-sd cards its being installed from. > > Did I miss that link in my searches?  Without

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
nt/images/netboot/SD-card-images/ [...] > > > Those are not ISO9660 but rather partitioned images with a FAT32 > > > filesystem: > > > [...] > > > Device Boot StartEnd Sectors Size Id > > > Type firmware.a64-olinuxino.img1

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 10:48:22 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that contained the seeds of my boot problem, the ntfs cards need > > to have a fat32 re-formatting. NTFS/SDXC doesn't work. > > No idea how the 4b works but the older 2b needed vfat becaus

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 12:49:14 Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > What does this do that the iso doesn't, and note it takes a > >> > windows machine to follow those instructions. > >> > >> Eh? How do you work that out?

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 11:34:20 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:35:51 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry > > system. So my proposal about netboot might be hopeless

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 13:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2019 11:34:20 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:35:51 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated som

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdf1 > > > > /dev/sdf1 is an unmounted 64GB PNY u-sd card. Original format NTFS. > That

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 11:50:12 ghe wrote: > On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-ne

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
l port rigged up? No, and nothing to display it on either. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law r

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:10:06 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 12:21:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm building a RealtimePi buster-lite on the pi3 right now. Just one > > $PITA problem, raspian insists the first, usr 1000 is > > "pi

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
b cable long enough. That will call for a backhoe in this midden heap. I've got a boosted 10 meter one, someplace. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:23:55 ghe wrote: > On 9/9/19 10:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Is there a foolproof way to convert that to "gene", or am I stuck > > logging into it as "pi"? > > I tried that a long time ago, and had to reinstall, IIRC. What

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:58:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou > > to do squawt as sudo root. BTDT. > > If you have a serious complaint or

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 14:24:50 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 13:58:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou > > >

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 23:06:27 Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 12:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 September 2019 11:50:12 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg W

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 September 2019 02:14:06 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages > >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ > > > > Potential timeline? > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett >

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
gpio pins in a straight line to the iface card, cable is only an inch long. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first

Is the buster 1.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Please write in content, not only subject field. > > And please clarify what you are talking about - e.g. by pinking to the > thing.

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 September 2019 19:50:32 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 22:10:53) > > > On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Hesket

confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
that before. I also have that in armhf, so I'm about to rewrite that card with it. Was the first install a fluke, or was something changed between 10.0 and 10.1 that would explain the failure? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of libert

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 12:45:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings to all debian puzzle solvers incorporated; > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b but my user software, > linuxcnc was

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
/sde The /dev/sde obtained from syslog after plugging in the reader. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 14:04:30 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,r

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a > > boot medium. dos/fat32 only I beli

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, part

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Ge

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:42:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > > > wrote: > > > > wh

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:51:31 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show > > what a working hdmi socket has for signals? > > There are no analog signals on the HDMI co

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:57:43 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
draw smith charts in near real time at up to 60 mhz, so an AM radio station tower tuneup at 1 Mhz is pretty easy. That VNA s what I bought it for. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
ter that would likely get giggles from the audience. ;-) One really fugly thought keeps drifting into view, and that is that the rpi4 needs a whole new video driver setup. In that event, the raspian buster 10.1 should be making nice, speedy video even while its booting. But its not. Sigh... T

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
bought 2 recently, same exact part number, slightly different card gfx, the 85 meg rated one doesn't mention exfat, works, the 100 MB/S rated one mentions exfat and is untouchable. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, a

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > Jonas writes: > > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being fas

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
r and collected the Rolex in the middle of 2002, haveing sat in that chair, when I had time to sit, since Oct 1984 and monitors were just gettiing smart enough to tell the drivers what they needed, so I had suspected as much. Thank you Joe. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four box

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:57:14 Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 S

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 17:49:49 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered from > > gpio pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running that way > > for 2+ years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
es you have to do a bit of math (my poor suite because in actual fact my formal education is to the 8th grade only) to confirm the distortion you see is an echo though that gets difficult when the cable is well under a foot long and the echo's fundamentel delay is closing in on the scopes

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 September 2019 03:59:24 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > > > > > On Wednes

rpi4 vs mouse

2019-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
/boot/cmdline.txt that had to be removed to make the mouse move in real time, but can't find that msg now, I assume because its been expired. There's not a man page for cmdline.txt. Does anyone recall what that was ? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be use

Re: rpi4 vs mouse

2019-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 September 2019 18:49:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > I got the adapter and big heat sink today, and it was a duff adapter > that caused my lack of video. Its booting and almost running normal, > except for the mouse, its moving in very slow motion and keeps on > moving

Re: rpi4 vs mouse

2019-09-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 September 2019 04:42:52 Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I recall it was something in /boot/cmdline.txt that had to be > > removed to make the mouse move in real time, but can't find that msg > > now, I assume because its been expired. &

Re: rpi4 vs mouse

2019-09-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 September 2019 08:44:57 Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-20, Gene Heskett wrote: > > We had this same problem with the mouse when the rpi3b+ was new, > > seems to me it should have been fixed by now. But raspbian is weird. > > In lots of ways. But wading thru the se

Re: Upgrading point release from 10 to 10.1

2019-09-20 Thread Gene Heskett
olitics, this is local to us, here in the USA and off topic fot the list. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must firs

Re: Upgrading point release from 10 to 10.1

2019-09-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 September 2019 12:42:16 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have to play Sam Elliot here, John, reminding us that it took a > > special kind of stupid to elect what we did elect in the last poll. > > But Gene, it was not hard given the alternative. I st

./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
This seems to indicate a pkg-config problem: checking for glib... configure: error: no -- required until somebody makes glib optional glib-2 is of course installed but pkg-config apparentlly knows nothing about it. Fix? Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 September 2019 12:41:48 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:41:03AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This seems to indicate a pkg-config problem: > > > > checking for glib... configure: error: no -- required until somebody > > makes glib op

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 September 2019 14:41:58 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 02:36:04PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 21 September 2019 12:41:48 Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:41:03AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 September 2019 15:26:48 ghe wrote: > On 9/21/19 12:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And do we have a package manager that will run on an ssh -Y login > > I'm not sure what you mean, but the ssh man page says: > > > -Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding.

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 September 2019 16:29:59 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 04:11:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 21 September 2019 14:41:58 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 02:36:04PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 September 2019 17:30:23 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I've had it totally destroy several systems.  So I consider it > > dangerous, a tool of absolute last resort. And another 23 packages > > pulled in to install it. > > > &g

Re: ./configure failure, can't find glib on debian-arm buster 10.1

2019-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 September 2019 08:55:01 Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > My instant show stopper is in (fresh git clone today) > > linuxcnc-dev/src: ./configure --with-realtime=uspace > > [...] > > checking for GTK 2.4.0 or above... no > &g

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