Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 18:01:24 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your Debian > installation is broken. Or the hardware is broken. Running a specfic program may exercise the broken hardware in a way that causes it to fail, while other

shall i install snapd

2024-12-10 Thread Bitfox
I am just not sure, should I install snapd on debian 12 for package management? or just use apt for everything? I found that there are some apps like certbot and the latest ruby are installed by snapd only by default. Thank you.

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 18:56:02 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/10/24 10:53 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Those raised the question "How do I go to point x minutes into a file?" > > > > There's a slider that progresses as the

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 15:03:46 (-0800), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Tue Dec 10 14:05:20 2024 David Wright wrote: > > > You still haven't said what files cause you concern in /usr/bin/. > > There are a lot of them, e.g. xscreensaver, zip, sox... > > > All the files belonging to Debian's packages a

Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 10/12/2024 06:23, Charlie Gibbs wrote: 1. Do a network install on the new drive; It was advised assuming that you would not do the following, otherwise it is wasting of time:     sudo rsync -av /etc   /mnt/backup     sudo rsync -av /lib   /mnt/backup     sudo rsync -av /lib64 /mnt/ba

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread David Christensen
On 12/10/24 18:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 18:01:24 -0800, David Christensen wrote: If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your Debian installation is broken. Or the hardware is broken. Running a specfic program may exercise the broken hardware in a

Re: shall i install snapd

2024-12-10 Thread Adrian
There are some apps like Kompozer etc, that are no longer installable via apt due to outdated dependencies, however, installs fine with snap or flatpak, which provide a bubble env for the app. flatpak 'bottles' is a another good one for running windows progs. (wine). 73 vk4tux On 11/12/24

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:22 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > [SNIP... ] > > I'm looking for documentation for optimal use of the GUI. > My initial problems revolved around pause/resume. > Those raised the question "How do I go to point x minutes into a file?" > > Then I started speculating about taki

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread gene heskett
On 12/10/24 23:06, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/24 18:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 18:01:24 -0800, David Christensen wrote: If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your Debian installation is broken. Or the hardware is broken.  Running a specfi

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 10:28:14AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Mike McClain composed on 2024-12-10 08:49 (UTC-0600): > > > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Mike McClain wrote: > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied > ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when executed by root. > Suggestions? You may have

directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Mike McClain
I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when executed by root. Suggestions? Thanks, Mike -- "It's not that I'm so smart,

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Mike McClain composed on 2024-12-10 08:49 (UTC-0600): > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied > ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when executed by r

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > > I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. > > Never had need for audio. > > > > Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. > > Install and initial trial went well. > > Its

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 21:56:32 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > I did see "debports" (not "backports") on > https://packages.debian.org/sid/mozillavpn I also see a link to . If I click that, I am taken to a page that says, among other things, Save 50% on Mozilla VP

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 13:08:09 (-0700), Paul Scott wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/sid/mozillavpn shows the packages listed > as backports I saw those, but they appear to be for rather unusual architectures, and I thought you'd have mentioned that. Cheers, David.

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 10:53 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 11:30 AM, ghe2001 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and initial trial wen

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread John Hasler
Seems like you are going about this in the most difficult and roundabout way possible. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: shall i install snapd

2024-12-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 11/12/24 10:32, Bitfox wrote: I found that there are some apps like certbot and the latest ruby are installed by snapd only by default. Last time I looked cerbot on Debian 12 was installed with apt e.g. sudo apt install certbot python3-certbot-apache As regards snap, my personal opinion

Re: shall i install snapd

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 10:58:39 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 11/12/24 10:32, Bitfox wrote: > > I found that there are some apps like certbot and the latest ruby are > > installed by snapd only by default. > > Last time I looked cerbot on Debian 12 was installed with apt e.g. > > sudo a

Re: shall i install snapd

2024-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:32 PM Bitfox wrote: > > I am just not sure, should I install snapd on debian 12 for package > management? or just use apt for everything? > > I found that there are some apps like certbot and the latest ruby are > installed by snapd only by default. I don't believe that'

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/sid/mozillavpn shows the packages listed > as backports Sid doesn't have backports. What I see at that page is that there are *unofficial* builds of mozillavpn, but only on riscv64 and ia64. What architectur

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread David Christensen
On 12/10/24 15:03, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I think it's time to throw in the towel.  The only reason I'm spending so much time on this is that I had knee surgery a few days ago and I'm sitting here at home, not mobile enough to do much else but putter with my machines.  But I think I'll just forget

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello :) Le 10/12/2024 à 19:41, Andy Smith a écrit : Hi, On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 12:30:01PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Can someone tell what to add to sources.list to get mozillavpn (sid) I think you would be better off asking Mozilla how to install software they make, as this is not packaged

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 11:26:52PM +0100, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > Le 10/12/2024 à 19:41, Andy Smith a écrit : > > According to: > > > > > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-install-mozilla-vpn-linux-computer > > > > they only support Ubuntu. > no. > > read at the botto

Re: From SSD to NVME

2024-12-10 Thread Anssi Saari
Michael Stone writes: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 10:55:48AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>How do I tell how many lanes a given drive uses (preferably before purchase)? > > It would be buried in the technical docs. I've only seen 4x drives > (but I'm sure there may be some cheaper drives with fewer).

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread Bob McGowan
On Wed, 2024-12-11 at 01:17 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/10/24 21:01, David Christensen wrote: > > On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote: > > > > On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote: > > > > If your computer is crashing within a minute, con

Re: Debian on OpenWrt One router?

2024-12-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 11/12/24 14:13, Alex King wrote: Where do I go for people interested in Debian on the OpenWrt One/ BananaPi Router? (https://openwrt.org/toh/openwrt/one) There may be a Debian only distro. Usually the manufacturer supplies a link. There is certainly an Armbian distro which is 99% the sam

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 12:30:01PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > Can someone tell what to add to sources.list to get mozillavpn (sid) I think you would be better off asking Mozilla how to install software they make, as this is not packaged by or provided by Debian. According to: https://su

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 10:15 AM Mike McClain wrote: > > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied > ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when executed by

Re: Firefox and XFCE

2024-12-10 Thread Mike Castle
Out of curiosity, how do you raise windows? Anyway, I was unable to reproduce this with FF 1.333.0 and Debian 12. However, I normally do not run with these settings, so perhaps I do not have them set up correctly. Perhaps some screen shots of your settings might be in order to verify I tried corr

Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread Anssi Saari
Charlie Gibbs writes: > 5. Copy directories from the original drive to the new drive: > sudo rsync -av /bin /mnt/backup > sudo rsync -av /etc /mnt/backup > sudo rsync -av /lib /mnt/backup > sudo rsync -av /lib64 /mnt/backup > sudo rsync -av /opt /mnt/backup > sudo

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. > Never had need for audio. > > Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. > Install and initial trial went well. > Its m

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Dec 2024 at 21:25:59 (-0800), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Mon Dec 9 20:53:54 2024 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 09 Dec 2024 at 15:23:18 (-0800), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > > >> Some of you may recall my account of trying to install a new disk (in > >> my case a 1TB NVMe stick) for use as a

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am Di., 10.Dez..2024 um 15:49:02 schrieb Mike McClain: > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied > ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when executed by

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2024, 15:49:02 CET schrieb Mike McClain: > I've a couple od directories in ~/.cache I can't read or get rid of. > find: '/home/mike/.cache/gvfs': Permission denied > find: '/home/mike/.cache/doc': Permission denied > ls, rmdir and unlink also get 'Permission denied' when e

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Jeffrey Walton composed on 2024-12-10 13:40 (UTC-0500): > I believe gvfs is the GNOME Virtual File Systems. I don't think you > want to delete that. Everything in a cache directory is cache. Cache is always disposable, though most effectively done while not running something actually using it, a

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Paul Scott
Andy, Thank you for your reply. https://packages.debian.org/sid/mozillavpn shows the packages listed as backports Paul On 12/10/24 11:41 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 12:30:01PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Can someone tell what to add to sources.list to get mozillavpn (si

Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and initial trial went well. Its man-page - terse! I'm looking for documentation for optimal use of the GUI.

Re: sources.list for Mozilla VPN

2024-12-10 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > On 12/10/24 11:41 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 12:30:01PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > > > Can someone tell what to add to sources.list to get mozillavpn (sid) > > I think you would be better off asking Mo

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread gene heskett
On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote: On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing this e-mail. A: It didn't last long enough to even get this msg. B: I dl'd the beta from the mozilla site, works d

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread gene heskett
On 12/10/24 21:01, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote: On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote: If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing this e-mail. A: It didn't last long enough to even get this ms

Re: Subject: Re: Adding a new boot disk while keeping old disk

2024-12-10 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Tue Dec 10 14:05:20 2024 David Wright wrote: > You still haven't said what files cause you concern in /usr/bin/. There are a lot of them, e.g. xscreensaver, zip, sox... > All the files belonging to Debian's packages are going to be present, > because you wrote: > >>> At this point the old a

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-10 Thread David Christensen
On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote: On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote: On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote: If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing this e-mail. A: It didn't last long enough to even get this msg. Understood. B: I dl'd the beta from the

Debian on OpenWrt One router?

2024-12-10 Thread Alex King
Where do I go for people interested in Debian on the OpenWrt One/BananaPi Router? (https://openwrt.org/toh/openwrt/one) Mine just arrived today, and while it's working fine with OpenWrt, of course I'd prefer it was running Debian.  I googled and found https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWRT, which s