On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote:
If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing this e-mail.
A: It didn't last long enough to even get this msg.


Understood.


B: I dl'd the beta from the mozilla site, works differently but has not crashed in about 36 hours now. It didn't crash if the debian supplied version wasn't running so the dl was w/o excitement.


On the one hand, I am glad the computer is no longer crashing.


On the other hand, I expect that you will continue to use the computer in the same way; and that you will not identify and fix root cause issues.


I assume the subject "restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze" refers to your Asus PRIME Z370-A II desktop/ workstation/ storage server computer (?).
Yes, its stable as long as the debian version of t-bird wasn't running, start it and it locked the system up while fetching the initial imap scan for new msgs.  I didn't track how many times I tried, 10 or more I guess.


If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your Debian installation is broken. Given the complexity of your haystack, I expect finding and fixing the needle(s) would be time prohibitive.


When I destabilize a system, my preferred solution is a backup, re-image, and restore cycle. To make this solution possible, I have invested myself in disaster preparedness. And, I must continue investing effort on a regular basis to keep it viable.


When all I had was data backups, my best option was backup, wipe, fresh install, and restore.


Things were truly scary before I had decent data backups.


If you rebuild the computer as a hypervisor host (using the NVMe PCIe SSD) and a storage server (using the various SATA SSD's), you can do all the experimentation you want inside virtual machines. If a VM blows up, the base system keeps running and so do the other VM's. This removes your current problem of "all of your eggs in one basket". Also, a good hypervisor makes it easy to snapshot and revert VM's. This facilitates disaster preparedness and disaster recovery for the VM's. You would still need data backups; use the HDD's.


David

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