On Wed, 2024-12-11 at 01:17 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> 
> On 12/10/24 21:01, David Christensen wrote:
> > On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote:
> > > > On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing
> > > > this 
> > > > e-mail. 
> > > A: It didn't last long enough to even get this msg.
> > 
> > 
> > Understood.
> > 
> > 
> > > B: I dl'd the beta from the mozilla site, works differently but
> > > has 
> > > not crashed in about 36 hours now. It didn't crash if the debian 
> > > supplied version wasn't running so the dl was w/o excitement.
> > 
> > 
> > On the one hand, I am glad the computer is no longer crashing.
> > 
> > 
> > On the other hand, I expect that you will continue to use the
> > computer 
> > in the same way; and that you will not identify and fix root cause 
> > issues.
> > 
> > 
> > > > I assume the subject "restart lasts maybe a minute till next
> > > > freeze" 
> > > > refers to your Asus PRIME Z370-A II desktop/ workstation/
> > > > storage 
> > > > server computer (?).
> > > Yes, its stable as long as the debian version of t-bird wasn't 
> > > running, start it and it locked the system up while fetching the 
> > > initial imap scan for new msgs.  I didn't track how many times I 
> > > tried, 10 or more I guess.
> > 
> > 
> > If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your 
> > Debian installation is broken.  Given the complexity of your
> > haystack, 
> > I expect finding and fixing the needle(s) would be time
> > prohibitive.
> It is indeed, David. The package managers apt and synaptic cannot
> find 
> anything wrong, and I should be on record as reporting that opening
> any 
> local file takes a minimum of 30 seconds to pop up the requester,
> during 
> which time the system is also locked.  I've installed some stuff
> folks 
> have suggested to no avail so I gave up wasting everybody's time and 
> just put up with it. memtest86 has toured the 32gigs several times
> but 
> doesn't find anything. Frustrating but apparently it hasn't bothered 
> anyone else. It would very helpful if something stuck up a hand or
> did 

Hello Gene and David,

Due to the subject, I had not read earlier emails in this thread, until
today.

And I'm here to say I've also had problems I've imputed to Tbird, based
on the fact that when Tbird is NOT running, the systme is as solid as a
rock.

Of note is the fact that my issues were not nearly instantly provoked,
in some cases it took several hours before the system hung.

In one case, I was using Zoom when it hung and the audio (and network)
continued to work, for about 18 minutes before locking up.

Finally, I've switched to using Evolution and this has generally been a
good change.  It did hang, once, at the beginning but has not been a
problem since.

I also replaced my video card just before switching to Evolution, from
a 1GB Nvidia board to a 4GB AMD Radeon HD 7670 card.

How helpful or usefull this is, is open to debate, but at least there
is a second case, for what it's worth.

Bob

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