On 12/10/24 21:01, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/10/24 13:51, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/9/24 20:51, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/9/24 06:59, gene heskett wrote:
If your computer is crashing within a minute, consider printing this
e-mail.
A: It didn't last long enough to even get this msg.
Understood.
B: I dl'd the beta from the mozilla site, works differently but has
not crashed in about 36 hours now. It didn't crash if the debian
supplied version wasn't running so the dl was w/o excitement.
On the one hand, I am glad the computer is no longer crashing.
On the other hand, I expect that you will continue to use the computer
in the same way; and that you will not identify and fix root cause
issues.
I assume the subject "restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze"
refers to your Asus PRIME Z370-A II desktop/ workstation/ storage
server computer (?).
Yes, its stable as long as the debian version of t-bird wasn't
running, start it and it locked the system up while fetching the
initial imap scan for new msgs. I didn't track how many times I
tried, 10 or more I guess.
If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your
Debian installation is broken. Given the complexity of your haystack,
I expect finding and fixing the needle(s) would be time prohibitive.
It is indeed, David. The package managers apt and synaptic cannot find
anything wrong, and I should be on record as reporting that opening any
local file takes a minimum of 30 seconds to pop up the requester, during
which time the system is also locked. I've installed some stuff folks
have suggested to no avail so I gave up wasting everybody's time and
just put up with it. memtest86 has toured the 32gigs several times but
doesn't find anything. Frustrating but apparently it hasn't bothered
anyone else. It would very helpful if something stuck up a hand or did
the gotta pee dance but in 2 years nothing has. Maybe its something
leftover from ripping out orca and brltty that I tried to stop by a
fresh install around 30 times. The installer put them in even when I
said no.
When I destabilize a system, my preferred solution is a backup,
re-image, and restore cycle. To make this solution possible, I have
invested myself in disaster preparedness. And, I must continue
investing effort on a regular basis to keep it viable.
When all I had was data backups, my best option was backup, wipe,
fresh install, and restore.
Things were truly scary before I had decent data backups.
If you rebuild the computer as a hypervisor host (using the NVMe PCIe
SSD) and a storage server (using the various SATA SSD's), you can do
all the experimentation you want inside virtual machines. If a VM
blows up, the base system keeps running and so do the other VM's.
This removes your current problem of "all of your eggs in one
basket". Also, a good hypervisor makes it easy to snapshot and revert
VM's. This facilitates disaster preparedness and disaster recovery
for the VM's. You would still need data backups; use the HDD's.
David
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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