Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 02:34:48 md wrote: > >> When copying a dvd to file on the harddrive, I'm getting the > >> message dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error > >> If I first run dvdbackup, then Ctrl-C out of it. I can then reissue > >> the dd command and it will finish fine. If I e

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 02:45:43 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > md wrote: > > When copying a dvd to file on the harddrive, I'm getting [...] > > MD> sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/sdb1/movie.iso > > 32596480 bytes (33 MB, 31 MiB) copied, 7.00018 s, 4.7 MB/s > > dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/out

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Classic slow spinup. I wrote: > > After 33 MiB of reading ? > That much would would also invalidate the dry sliders theory There might well be mechanical or optical problems involved. As said, the failure patterns of drives are variform. Thus my question whether d

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 02:45:43 > From: Thomas Schmitt > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: mickyd...@protonmail.com > Subject: Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error > Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 07:46:23 + (UTC) > Resent-From:

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Why not prefix that dd command with a sudo udevadm settle command and > only allow the dd command to run on success case? man udevadm says: udevadm settle [options] Watches the udev event queue, and exits if all current events are handled. We have no i

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Dec 2018 at 21:33:21 -0800, Rusi Mody wrote: > [J Arun Mani] > Look up kiosk instead of DM maybe? > eg https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Kiosk > > [Gene/Brian] Yeah I find your surprise surprising... > > All operating systems (except MSDOS!) have a detailed notion of > protection l

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Sending the mail back to the list. J.Arun Mani wrote: > Thanks for your reply. > Actually the app I'm developing is for school's computer lab. In our school's > computer lab, if someone wants access the computer, they should make a entry > in a register stating the name, purpose, upto the tim

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 03:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Classic slow spinup. > > I wrote: > > > After 33 MiB of reading ? > > > > That much would would also invalidate the dry sliders theory > > There might well be mechanical or optical problems involved. As

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 04:11:28 Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 02:45:43 > > From: Thomas Schmitt > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Cc: mickyd...@protonmail.com > > Subject: Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output erro

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 04:37:10 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Why not prefix that dd command with a sudo udevadm settle command > > and only allow the dd command to run on success case? > > man udevadm says: > > udevadm settle [options] >Watches the udev ev

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:24:33AM +, Brian wrote: > Furthermore, the OP specified > > > ...whenever someone opens their computer > > and I took "opens" to mean "switches on", which might mean having > to look at what existing DMs have in the way of this functionality > and of running anoth

About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i'm starting this spin-off thread to avoid pollution of "dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error" I wrote: > ... > (We have a bug in the kernel since 2008 which prevents waiting for > ... > the drive to become ready after automatic tray loading. > > The old timeout limit was 20 sec

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread John Hasler
Permissions, ACLs, etc aren't just there to protect the system against malicious or incompetent users. They also limit the damage buggy software can do. All the things you complain about are configurable defaults which you should be able to change without needing to understand PAM. -- John Hasle

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:24:33AM +, Brian wrote: > It wasn't any plan for layers of secutity which surprised me but > the desire to add to the existing username/password login scheme > with extra (unspecified) questions. Dan Ritter's reply included some off-list clarification from the OP: >

Python3.5 fixes backported?

2018-12-10 Thread Arseny Sher
Hi, I use Debian Stretch. Looks like the latest version of python3 is 3.5.3-1: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/python3.5 It has a bug biting me which was resolved quite some time ago: https://bugs.python.org/issue29519 Is there any idiomatic way to get the fix without damaging my 'stable' sy

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 08:58:39 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I wrote: [...] > > > I use: > > > xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 > > > before trying to read the medium by POSIX i/o like dd(1) or > > > read(2). > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > This is also something that has not been installed till now, and ha

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Dec 2018 at 07:55:32 -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:24:33AM +, Brian wrote: > > It wasn't any plan for layers of secutity which surprised me but > > the desire to add to the existing username/password login scheme > > with extra (unspecified) questions. >

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 09:14:05 John Hasler wrote: > Permissions, ACLs, etc aren't just there to protect the system against > malicious or incompetent users. They also limit the damage buggy > software can do. > > All the things you complain about are configurable defaults which you > should

<> Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

2018-12-10 Thread mark
On Monday, November 26, 2018 9:37:21 AM EST Mark Neidorff wrote: > > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail > service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think > that really matters. > > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me PO

Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Hi everybody What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment. I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list where it could be talk about anything could be great thing. It could be not necessarily hosted on Debian servers. Or maybe debian people comm

HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Hi, I'm curios about HURD. I understand that it is already available in sid. Is there any possibility to install it side by side with linux kernel and having both options in GRUB ?  Are all libraries separate for HURD or just gnu abstraction layer ? -- Gaining from harming others is strictly pro

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 05:07:31PM +0100, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > Hi everybody > > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment. > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list > where it could be talk about anything could be great thing. > > It

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Francisco M Neto
Either create a virtual machine (VirtualBox, qemu, etc) or find some space for a new partition. GNU/Hurd is an entirely different operating system and it will ruin you Debian installation if you try to install it in the same partition. My 2¢. []'s, --Francisco On Mon, 2018-12-10 at 16:05 +0100,

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > A workaround in K3b would be let it retry on error ENOMEDIUM for about > > 30 seconds and to only then give up. Gene Heskett wrote: > That ought to be doable, but would that not delay the ready by banging on > the drive for a status report during that time? It only has so much c

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread md
In the scenarios when dd fails, the amount that dd reads before failing varies from to movie dvd to movie dvd. At times dd will read 400MB before failing. A few FWIW snippets: dvdbackup 'fixes' the dd problem xorriso doesn't 'fix' the dd problem xorriso has similar problem to dd dvdbackup 'fixes'

Where is the logfile for VLC 3.0.4 Vetinari on Stretch 9.6 ?

2018-12-10 Thread md
Where is the logfile for VLC 3.0.4 Vetinari on Stretch 9.6 ? These don't locate anything: sudo find / -name "*vlc*" | grep log sudo find / -name "*vlc*" | grep txt And, using 'log' in the search feature, there is not a setting for it in VLC > Preferences

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 12:46:41 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > A workaround in K3b would be let it retry on error ENOMEDIUM for > > > about 30 seconds and to only then give up. > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > That ought to be doable, but would that not delay the ready by > > bangin

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Francisco M Neto
I don't think it's just a matter of sharing libraries and system files. This is not just another kernel version, it's an entirely different kernel. A backup might not be enough, and even if it is, keep in mind that every time you decide to switch from Hurd to Linux or vice-versa you will need to re

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, md wrote: > [] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] tag#20 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] > [] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] tag#20 Add. Sense: Read of scrambled sector without > authentication > [] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] tag#20 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 3b 23 c0 00 00 40 00 This is probably CSS access restriction. I gues

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 12:57:46 md wrote: > In the scenarios when dd fails, the amount that dd reads before > failing varies from to movie dvd to movie dvd. At times dd will read > 400MB before failing. > > A few FWIW snippets: > dvdbackup 'fixes' the dd problem > xorriso doesn't 'fix' the dd

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu 10.12.2018, pon o godzinie 15∶11 -0200, użytkownik Francisco M Neto napisał: > Either create a virtual machine (VirtualBox, qemu, etc) or find some > space for a new partition. GNU/Hurd is an entirely different > operating > system and it will ruin you Debian installation if you try to ins

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/12/2018 à 06:34, md a écrit : MD> sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/sdb1/movie.iso 32596480 bytes (33 MB, 31 MiB) copied, 7.00018 s, 4.7 MB/s dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error (...) MD> dvdbackup -M libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys libdvdread: This can take a _long_ t

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread John Hasler
Hurd differs from Linux as much as Linux differs from Windows (maybe more). Put it on a seperate partition. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Perhaps that patch could be reverted, It had its legitimate intentions, 10 years ago. See https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/210ba1d1724f5c4ed87a2ab1a21ca861a915f734 and a glimpse of the following woes http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail//linux/kernel/0807.0/0287.h

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread md
Using an old PATA-to-USB cable, I attached a 15 year old PATA DVD Drive to the SATA based computer I've been using. With this drive (/dev/sr1), dd seems to working fine without having to precede it with dvdbackup -M. In the dvdread README on github, I found this: '. If you attempt to read

Re: dd: error reading '/dev/sr0': Input/output error

2018-12-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, md wrote: > > libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Didn't these messages about CSS keys ring a bell in anybody's mind ? In hindsight, yes. > Check the kernel logs with dmesg. This yielded a nice theory about libdvdcss and not going to jail. md wrote:

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread deloptes
Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment. > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list > where it could be talk about anything could be great thing. When I hear the word "social", a fire of red lights just explodes

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu 10.12.2018, pon o godzinie 13∶49 -0600, użytkownik John Hasler napisał: > Hurd differs from Linux as much as Linux differs from Windows (maybe > more).  Put it on a seperate partition. That is probably best to do but I do not agree that difference is so big. There is Debian BSD, Debian Linux

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu 10.12.2018, pon o godzinie 21∶39 +0100, użytkownik deloptes napisał: > Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > > > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social > > entertainment. > > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such > > list > > where it could be talk about any

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Francisco M Neto
Porting is not the same as installing on the same filesystem. Each version of Debian you mentioned needs its own filesystem to work with. Again, this is NOT a simple matter of just using the same files with a different kernel! The infrastructure of each OS is fundamentally different. You NEED to us

Re: HURD and Linux on same partition

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu 10.12.2018, pon o godzinie 19∶47 -0200, użytkownik Francisco M Neto napisał: > Porting is not the same as installing on the same filesystem. Each > version of Debian you mentioned needs its own filesystem to work > with. > Again, this is NOT a simple matter of just using the same files with

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/10/18, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > Hi everybody > > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment. > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list > where it could be talk about anything could be great thing. > > It could be not necessarily host

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Dec 2018 at 17:47:20 -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 12/10/18, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > > Hi everybody > > > > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment. > > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list > > where it could be tal

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread deloptes
Marek Mosiewicz wrote: >> The best is to have friends, family and social contacts in a human >> way - > That is true. >> this means meeting and talking to people. The social media crap is >> total >> BS. >> > I remember time when internet had news groups and it was different type > of social. May

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 15:02:44 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Perhaps that patch could be reverted, > > It had its legitimate intentions, 10 years ago. > See > > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/210ba1d1724f5c4ed87a2ab1a21ca >861a915f734 > > and a glimpse

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 December 2018 15:39:05 deloptes wrote: > Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social > > entertainment. I believe Debian users have great intellectual > > abilities and such list where it could be talk about anything could > > be great thing. >