Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:12:47AM +0100, Max Power wrote: > with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced > but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway...? > # route > gateway = home.telecomitalia.it > # ip route > gateway = 192.168.1.1

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 06:01:20PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/31/17 14:45, Sven Hartge wrote: > >David Christensen wrote: > >> $ man 4 md > > > >> SCRUBBING AND MISMATCHES > >> ... > >>If check was used, then no action

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread Tino Calancha
>Instead the following fix works: >Create a file: >/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-fix-screen-flickering.conf >with content: >--8<-cut here---start->8--- >Section "Device" > Identifier "Intel Graphics" > Driver "intel" > Option "A

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 06:11:59PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > [...] > >> Note that "write" permissions on a file only really comes into play when >> you're messing with a file in an editor (e.g. vim, emacs, nano, >> whatever). It does n

Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Max Power
My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet is not installed by default. But if this command was so usefu

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! >

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On seg, 01 jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a tutorial. Man pages are unsatisfactory. Sort of like giving someone a dictionary and expecting them to become competent writers. The file/directory permission, and the chmod command to set them are very old. Any book on Unix or Linux should

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-02, wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: >> My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] >> before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! >> With le last r

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:05:58PM +, Curt wrote: [...] > There just was another thread around here initiated by Max Power, the > current OP, I do believe [...] Indeed, it was Max (cc'ing him/her just in case). I didn't remember, but checked now

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/01/2018 12:32 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett I used "linux tutorial chmod chattr" [w/o quotes] in both DuckDuckGo and Google. A general search topic would be "linux file permissions" and "chattr". I did a DuckDuckGo search adding "tutorial" and got what I had been aimin

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/02/2018 06:33 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On seg, 01 jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a tutorial. Man pages are unsatisfactory. Sort of like giving someone a dictionary and expecting them to become competent writers. The file/directory permission, and the chmod command to set t

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread josh cha
Ok, thanks for the info. On Jan 2, 2018 2:32 AM, "Tino Calancha" wrote: > > > >Instead the following fix works: > >Create a file: > >/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-fix-screen-flickering.conf > > >with content: > >--8<-cut here---start-- > --->8--- >

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 01:29:46PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > There is nothing a user can do to *prevent* himself from destroying his own > files, Actually, there is. It's called making a backup.

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:12:47AM +0100, Max Power wrote: > Hi guys, > with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced > but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway...? > # route > gateway = home.telecomitalia.it > # ip route > gateway = 19

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-02 Thread Glenn English
On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Max Power wrote: > with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced Wipe your disk and install Buster. You get route++ back. Or create some shell scripts... -- Glenn English

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:59:41PM +, Glenn English wrote: > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Max Power wrote: > > > with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been > > replaced > > Wipe your disk and install Buster. You get route++ back. Worst advice ever.

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > You might add "How it will be interpreted by a Windows refugee :/ Keep in mind that the roots of our home are very old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson_%28sitting%29_and_Dennis_Ritchie_at_PDP-11_%282876612463%29.jpg and that the rules made back then a

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nearly never provide you with an ISP's name, even if yo

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Max Power wrote: > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] > > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > > Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nearly never provide > you with

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:47:39PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi, Max. I don't know what your intentions are in repeating your qualms after two solutions were offered to you. Either get along with the new "ip" or just install the old net-tools. They are not going away (at least not as long as

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 02:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 06:01:20PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 12/31/17 14:45, Sven Hartge wrote: David Christensen wrote: $ man 4 md SCRUBBING AND MISMATCHES ... If check was used, then no action is taken to handle

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread Samuel
could you add a support for wiko I have a wiko lenny 4 plus   signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Max Power wrote: >> > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T] >> > before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> >> Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nea

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote: > You can boot with your md device with the following kernel command > lines: > > for old raid arrays without persistent superblocks: > md=,,, level>,dev0,dev1,...,devn yes and best is you compile raid in, so that boot can be also raided regards

Re: How to relocate LVM pv to make room for grub install

2018-01-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/01/2018 à 00:56, Tom Dial a écrit : Which is the boot disk ? /dev/sda Then you didn't need to make room for GRUB on /dev/sdb. So maybe the right plan is This is one of the many possible plans. 0. make a grub-rescue CD just in case of need 1. restore the old (jessie) /boot/grub/*

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 16:31:15 +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > You might add "How it will be interpreted by a Windows refugee :/ > > Keep in mind that the roots of our home are very old > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson_%28sitting%29_and_Dennis_Ritchi

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: > What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? Intelligence, or an air gap, or both.

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 13:34:16 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: > > What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? > > Intelligence, or an air gap, or both. The same things which prevent him from destroying the original files? Not

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/01/2018 à 19:05, deloptes a écrit : David Christensen wrote (quoting md.txt from the kernel documentation) : You can boot with your md device with the following kernel command lines: for old raid arrays without persistent superblocks: md=dev0,dev1,...,devn yes and best is you compi

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/02/2018 12:41 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 13:34:16 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? Intelligence, or an air gap, or both. The same things which prevent him from d

Re: GRUB and boot partition

2018-01-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/01/2018 à 02:29, microsoft gaofei a écrit : So AES is very lightweight ? I thought cryptography takes very much space , but I saw 1MB space is plenty for AES What are you talking about ? Where did you see this ? It does not make sense. Encryption does not require extra space (except for

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 13:33:11 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/02/2018 12:41 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 13:34:16 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? >

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? Having multiple backups. Some with long intervals between them and some on write-once media. Of course the user must recover from mental incapacity often enough to produce and verify good backups and to restore spoil

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: >> What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? > > Intelligence, or an air gap, or both. More backups? -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP:

Re: libreoffice base crashes when writing HSQLDB

2018-01-02 Thread Flo
On 09/17/17 11:55, Curt wrote: On 2017-09-12, Flo wrote: The other option would be to patch the kernel and to compile it myself ... Your fault for still using i386 then. (Don't get me wrong: the regression should be fixed, nevertheless, sure.) It's my old laptop. Still working ... . Have

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 21:03:09 +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Brian wrote: > > What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? > > Having multiple backups. Some with long intervals between them and some > on write-once media. > Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 20:15:25 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: > >> What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? > > > > Intelligence, or an air gap, or both. > > More backups? Care to put a figure on thi

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2018-01-02 Thread Benny Simonsen
I want to share my experiences - I have not searched for an issue. Same issue here - but not limited to terminal - occurs also in Graphical mode (KDE). When the screen flickers it flickers both in GUI and terminal. The flickering is fast moving left and right. Sometimes the top ~1/5 of the displa

need info on video extraction with mencoder

2018-01-02 Thread Long Wind
i use mencoder to record tv programsoften i need to remove ad from a video filei use -ss and -endpos switch to select part of a video filebut it doesn't work perfectlyi specify the options in seconds but sometime it may include more video than i needif i shorten time, it may omit some video that

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-02, Brian wrote: >> >> A question in lieu of a parable. >> Would a resident of a 25th floor flat appreciate a railing on his balcony?# > > Indubitably he would. It doesn't destroy his freedom to throw himself > over it, though. > All this talk reminds me of the collapse of the wave fu

need help on wheezy installation

2018-01-02 Thread Long Wind
i often use installation from hard diskit means downloading a iso image and booting installerbut iso images have been removed from many mirrors is it possible to network install,  with specifying ftp/http server?

RE: need help on wheezy installation

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Zimmerman
> is it possible to network install, with specifying ftp/http server? My experience, YES works well when it works… If there is a glitch during download and a package is corrupt, the whole install fails…. Regards, Richard

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:21:30AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 01:29:46PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: There is nothing a user can do to *prevent* himself from destroying his own files, Actually, there is. It's called making a backup. No, that potentially allows him t

Re: need help on wheezy installation

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 13:14, Long Wind wrote: i often use installation from hard diskit means downloading a iso image and booting installerbut iso images have been removed from many mirrors Have you looked in the archives? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ David

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 10:05, deloptes wrote: David Christensen wrote: You can boot with your md device with the following kernel command lines: for old raid arrays without persistent superblocks: md=dev0,dev1,...,devn I did not write that. This is the second incorrect attribution to myself I've

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 20:15:25 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 06:30:55PM +, Brian wrote: >> >> What *prevents* a user from destroying his own backup files? >> > >> > Intelligence, or

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: > could you add a support for wiko > I have a wiko lenny 4 plus Sure! Probably a small job. I'll submit a patch tomorrow to port debian to android.

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
Anders Andersson wrote: > Sure! Probably a small job. I'll submit a patch tomorrow to port > debian to android. hahaha, great comment! don't forget to add "irony off" at the end in the spirit of this: I would love to test your patch (irony off) regards

Re: need info on video extraction with mencoder

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > they say you can't cut into a frameis there some solution to this problem? > Thanks! try avidemux - it works with frames or other video editing software regards

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/01/18 23:02, David Christensen wrote: > On 01/02/18 10:05, deloptes wrote: >> David Christensen wrote: >> >>> You can boot with your md device with the following kernel command >>> lines: >>> >>> for old raid arrays without persistent superblocks: >>> md=,,,>> level>,dev0,dev1,...,devn > > I

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Best for what ? for booting of raid > Who still uses RAID arrays without persistent superblocks ? historic reasons - systems aged 10y+ > Who still uses RAID assembly by the kernel instead of mdadm ? same as above > All this has beed obsoleted by the superblock format

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 02 January 2018 18:45:00 Darac Marjal wrote: > On 02/01/18 23:02, David Christensen wrote: > > On 01/02/18 10:05, deloptes wrote: > >> David Christensen wrote: > >>> You can boot with your md device with the following kernel command > >>> lines: > >>> > >>> for old raid arrays without p

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:15:00AM +1300, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > The reason Redhat dropped btrfs support is because it currently has no > native cryptographic function. Red Hat's former filesystem maintainer Josef Bacik said it was simply because Red Hat now lacks engineers familiar

Debian HW Cert support

2018-01-02 Thread 劉俊玗
Hi Sir, Sorry to bother you, I would like to know if Debian OS support the HW Cert like a RHEL or SLES ? Scott Liu SID, Cloud Computing Business Unit Quanta Computer Inc. TEL: +886-3-3272345 ext:15993 scott_...@quantatw.com [cid:image008.png@01D076DA.DB30

Re: need info on video extraction with mencoder

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > Thank deloptes!but where is avidemux?i can't find it in main of stretch I think it is in the debian multimedia repo http://www.deb-multimedia.org deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stretch main non-free # apt-cache search avidemux avidemux - Free video editor avidemux-qt - Fre

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 15:45, Darac Marjal wrote: On 02/01/18 23:02, David Christensen wrote: This is the second incorrect attribution to myself I've seen in the recent past... Really? It looks like you [wrote the mis-attributed text]. Yes, I know. So, what exactly are you complaining about? I'm n

Re: (solved) Re: need help on wheezy installation

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 15:47, Long Wind wrote: Thank Richard and David! On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:58 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 01/02/18 13:14, Long Wind wrote: i often use installation from hard diskit means downloading a iso image and booting installerbut iso images have been

Re: (solved) Re: need help on wheezy installation

2018-01-02 Thread David Christensen
On 01/02/18 15:47, Long Wind wrote: Thank Richard and David! On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:58 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 01/02/18 13:14, Long Wind wrote: i often use installation from hard diskit means downloading a iso image and booting installerbut iso images have been