Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.09.2012 um 18:12 schrieb Camaleón: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:54:07 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: To look at things from a possibly different perspective: what are the minimum advance-reading and resulting-understanding requirements, for install and (separately) for basic system usage, for e.g

Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Pietro Paolini
Hi all, How disable the X-Server temporary ? Thanks, Pietro.

Re: new version of "less" pager

2012-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
David wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Austyg wrote: > >> v451 of "less" is desirable because it adds support for GNU regular > >> expressions. > > > > Hmm... It does say that in the upstream changelog. > > > > I am unfamiliar with GNU regular expressions. How are they different > > from either POS

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 07:37:39, Pietro Paolini wrote: > Hi all, > > How disable the X-Server temporary ? If you use gdm/gdm3 you can boot with option 'text'. Otherwise you have to give more details about your system. Why do you need to disable X? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Pietro Paolini wrote: > How disable the X-Server temporary ? It all depends upon how you are starting X. Are you using one of the xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm X display managers? I will assume so since that is most typical. Do you really need to disable it? Ctrl-Alt-F1 gets you to the first text consol

Re: Question about Icedove and Cantarell font

2012-09-19 Thread Pascal Obry
Camaleón, > JFYI, I also get the same behaviour in Lenny (64-bits) and Thunderbird > 15.0.1; Cantarell font seems to be rendered almost touching the baseline. Ok thanks for confirming I'm not the only one! > I would ask at the Thunderbird forums or write a bug report in Debian BTS > or at Moz

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.09.2012 um 19:06 schrieb Ross Boylan: I remember someone saying "a pigeon could install Debian" because if you just click to accept the default responses you're likely to end up with a reasonable--not necessarily optimal, but reasonable--system. You can try an installation under Vir

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 07:37 +, Pietro Paolini wrote: > Hi all, > > > > How disable the X-Server temporary ? > > > > Thanks, > > Pietro. By switching the running level, resp. by stopping X. It depends to the display manager you're using and to the way your startup is handled. I suspect

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.09.2012 um 19:52 schrieb The Wanderer: And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want to have and use a working computer? They can buy a computer with preinstalled and preconfigured Software. I bought my last laptop with preconfigured dual boot Debian (Squeeze w

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 02:21:00 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Pietro Paolini wrote: > > How disable the X-Server temporary ? > > It all depends upon how you are starting X. Are you using one of the > xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm X display managers? I will assume so since that > is most typical. > > Do you

Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 18 Sep 2012 at 17:28:22 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> There'll hopefully be someone here who'll know and reply but it seems >> too specific to Knoppix to expect an answer here. (I understand your >> account problem though!). >> >> Looking at the u

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 03:14:05 +0200, lee wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > > Should one not be able to switch out of the installation process and > > into a browser (2 are already included) to search out answers? > > One should be able to. Since I haven't tried the life-installer yet, I > d

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:15:44 +0100, a écrit : > On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 03:14:05 +0200, lee wrote: > > > Richard Owlett writes: > > > > > Should one not be able to switch out of the installation process and > > > into a browser (2 are already included) to search out answers? > > > > One sho

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 20:01 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:13:40PM +0100, Martin Smith wrote: > > A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human > > heart rate) to > > minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than > > that the scree

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 11:23:10 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:15:44 +0100, a écrit : > > > > Boot into a live sytem. Start a browser. Start d-i. ALT-TAB between the > > two. Or CTRL-ALT-Fx for a virtual terminal. > > The feature you requested exists. Surely the bug c

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 20:15 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > Fiddling around by semi-random clicking on stuff and reloading the > page six or eight times sometimes works. In other words, patience is > what's required. Deleting the cache, closing and opening the browser and last but not least rebooting

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 09:28 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > Am 18.09.2012 um 18:12 schrieb Camaleón: > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:54:07 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> To look at things from a possibly different perspective: what are the > >> minimum advance-reading and resulting-underst

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 10:55 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > Am 18.09.2012 um 19:52 schrieb The Wanderer: > > > And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want > > to have and > > use a working computer? > > They can buy a computer with preinstalled and preconfigured Sof

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:41:12 +0100, a écrit : > On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 11:23:10 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:15:44 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > Boot into a live sytem. Start a browser. Start d-i. ALT-TAB between the > > > two. Or CTRL-ALT-Fx for a virtual

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 12:27:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:41:12 +0100, a écrit : > > > > Yes, planning ahead is required if you want to stay in X. For a spur of > > the moment need for information there is w3m in a terminal. > > How do you start a terminal? Goin

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 10:50:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > By switching the running level, resp. by stopping X. It depends to the > display manager you're using and to the way your startup is handled. I > suspect you're using init and GDM. As root try "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" > without the "s. If this shou

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 12:43:43 +0100, a écrit : > On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 12:27:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:41:12 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > Yes, planning ahead is required if you want to stay in X. For a spur of > > > the moment need for information th

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 14:58:06 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > By default all runlevels are identical on Debian. You didn't really mean to say that, did you.? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 14:58 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 19 sep 12, 10:50:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > By switching the running level, resp. by stopping X. It depends to the > > display manager you're using and to the way your startup is handled. I > > suspect you're using init and GDM

Nowa forma promocji w Internecie, pytanie o zgodę na przesłanie informacji.

2012-09-19 Thread biuro
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Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 13:07:47, Brian wrote: > On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 14:58:06 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > By default all runlevels are identical on Debian. > > You didn't really mean to say that, did you.? Right, I should have written runlevels 2-5. Anyway, the point is, one can indeed shut

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
("G'mornin', shipmates!") On 09/19/2012 04:55 AM, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: Am 18.09.2012 um 19:52 schrieb The Wanderer: And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want to have and use a working computer? They can buy a computer with preinstalled and preconfigured Soft

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:57:55 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> Your arguments fit perfect as a demostration of my key point that an OS >> installation is neither a money nor "I-want-a-bigger-room" related >> problem but a user attitude. > > Still I don't understand what you are trying t

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:26:13PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > > > > Thx, I looked at that and there weren't any. Meanwhile, I tried gnash > > and found that it doesn't work at all. Lightspark depends on > > pulseaudio, and I don't want to install that. Are there any > > alternatives --- preferab

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:52:14 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 09/18/2012 01:31 PM, Camaleón wrote: Okay, I agree the user does not need to hold a MS in Computer Science as a previous requirement for installing an OS and managing a computer. >>> >>> So we have an upper boundary. Do

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:16:12 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:46:03 +0200, lee wrote: >>> >>> Which is a very vague statement: What characterises "the most untechie >>> person on the planet"? For all I know, that could be someone who >>> hasn't even been born ye

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/19/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:52:14 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/18/2012 01:31 PM, Camaleón wrote: No, we don't. There are no upper no lower limits other than a user wanting to learn and showing interest in what he/she is doing. And what about the user

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - From: Lionel Trésaugues > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my > computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions > (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE > doesn't lead to any improvement

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:28:30 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: (...) >> OTOH, html5 is now at the corner, my hope is that Flash Player for the >> web dies in a very near future... > > There is also the possibility that they come up with a new version for > other OSs. They could add feature

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 06:47 -0700, T Elcor wrote: > For CRT monitors, anything below 75Hz refresh rate results in visible > flickering It becomes usable at 75Hz, it becomes comfortable at >= 80Hz. If you move your head or the monitor is in the corner of the eye, 75Hz still could noticeable flicke

Re: EXIM in Debian

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:46:55 -0400, Mark Robinson wrote: (please, no html posts, thanks...) > I know it might not be in the right group but is related mostly with > Debian. Nah, this group is perfect but you may also be interested in: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-exim4-u

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:28:59 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > Am 18.09.2012 um 18:12 schrieb Camaleón: > >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:54:07 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> To look at things from a possibly different perspective: what are the >>> minimum advance-reading and resulting-understan

Re: networking with virtual machine

2012-09-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 05:59:47 PM lee wrote: > Neal Murphy writes: > > So yes, if you want 'real' networking, you'll need bridges and taps. > > Thank you, I'll have to look into taps then. > > Do you think it's a good idea to just create a bridge device with the > unused eth0 for this?

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:37:39 +, Pietro Paolini wrote: > Hi all, Hi, but please, do not send html formatted posts. > How disable the X-Server temporary ? By disabling the load of the login manager from the init 3 level (e.g., you can run "update-rc.d [your_login_manager_here] disable"). G

Re: Wheezy managesieve segfault

2012-09-19 Thread Denis Witt
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:21:15 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > As Martin has suggested, better than wait is informing the Debian > packager maintainer about this so he can track it (a segfault is > something ugly enough to be solved as soon as possible). I did that, using reportbug but didn't rece

Re: No shutdown after processor change

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:04 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> I would look for a BIOS update, just in case. Whether in doubt, ask >> your motherboard's manufacturer about this step. > > Thanks. Motherboard has the latest BIOS from 2008 and wrot

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 13:46:52 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 12:43:43 +0100, a écrit : > > > With the Xfce Live image the installer window can be minimised. Also, > > it does not cover the task bar at the bottom of the screen, so another > > workspace is selectable. The

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:31:21 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer > running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as > Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE doesn't > lead to any impro

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012 schrieb Pietro Paolini: > Hi all, > > How disable the X-Server temporary ? > > Thanks, > Pietro I made good expierience, by moving gdm, xdm or kdm (whatever you are using) just right out of the way. I simply moved it form /etc/init.d/ into my /root folder. Then

Re: Configure Virtual IP interfaces

2012-09-19 Thread Chris Davies
Pietro Paolini wrote: > My goal is to simulate more than one IP interface using just a physical > interface, for do that I tried using this alias - ifconfing ethX:1 "ethX" is your real interface, yes? > But when I try to send a packet over that interface I see the IP source > the same as the o

Re: Wheezy managesieve segfault

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012 schrieb Denis Witt: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:21:15 + (UTC) > > Camaleón wrote: > > As Martin has suggested, better than wait is informing the Debian > > packager maintainer about this so he can track it (a segfault is > > something ugly enough to be solved as s

Re: Wheezy managesieve segfault

2012-09-19 Thread Denis Witt
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:30:08 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Did the mail from reportbug get out? Local MTA must be configured > correctly or reportbug must be configured to use another SMTP server > (I think that is possible meanwhile, maybe it can even use some > Debian SMTP server if nothing

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:43:25 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 09/19/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want to >>> have and use a working computer? > >> As I already mentioned, they should go for something that suit their >> needs, li

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/19/2012 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:43:25 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/19/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: Are you sure that you installed Vista and 7 completely _from scratch_? Because Windows OEM installations are always -regardless the version- quick and take

let logrotate create an new empty file?

2012-09-19 Thread Meike Stone
Hello dear list, I've a problem with creation of a logfile in /var/log. I have running a cronjob with a script, that should log in a file under /var/log/. (using logger is not possible) The script is running under a normal user. Logrotate should care for filesize and pack them. My Problem is, th

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:05:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 09/19/2012 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> I'm not sure how you define "from scratch". >> >> Then we have a problem here, Houston. >> >> A Windows installation "from scratch" is when you go to the shop and >> pay $250 USD for a copy of

Re: let logrotate create an new empty file?

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:11:55 +0200, Meike Stone wrote: > I've a problem with creation of a logfile in /var/log. > > I have running a cronjob with a script, that should log in a file under > /var/log/. (using logger is not possible) The script is running under a > normal user. > Logrotate should c

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/19/2012 12:29 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:05:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/19/2012 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: I'm not sure how you define "from scratch". Then we have a problem here, Houston. A Windows installation "from scratch" is when you go to the shop and p

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:58:16 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 09/19/2012 12:29 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> In that case, would an official downloaded-straight-from-Microsoft >>> install ISO be enough for "from scratch" for your purposes? > >> No, and let me explain it. >> >> In order to "mimi

Re: Configure Virtual IP interfaces

2012-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:40:24 +, Pietro Paolini wrote: > Hi all, Hi :-) (people, avoid sending html formatted posts, they are really annoying to deal with...) > My goal is to simulate more than one IP interface using just a physical > interface, for do that I tried using this alias > > Ifc

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Rob Owens writes: > Looks like gecko-mediaplayer is the replacement for mozilla-mplayer. > Testing it now... Let me guess: It doesn't work. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > If the user buys a computer with the OS preinstalled and the software > preconfigured, that bypasses the OS install even more than making it > artificially easy to install would, and leaves them just as open to potential > later pitfalls. So the easier you make it to use a

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > On 09/19/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> I really doubt it. And I doubt it because some things do not change over the >> time which means you still have to know how to partition a hard drive, how to >> boot from CD or what a driver is ;-) > > You still have to know how to

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:28:30 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: > > (...) > >> There is also the possibility that they come up with a new version for >> other OSs. They could add features in the new version that make it >> impossible to play videos which are compatible w

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:52:14 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want to >> have and use a working computer? > > (...) > > As I already mentioned, they should go for something that suit their > needs, like a tablet or

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Samuel Thibault writes: > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 12:43:43 +0100, a écrit : >> On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 12:27:57 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> >> > Brian, le Wed 19 Sep 2012 10:41:12 +0100, a écrit : >> > > >> > > Yes, planning ahead is required if you want to stay in X. For a spur of >> > >

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Helmut Wollmersdorfer writes: > Am 18.09.2012 um 19:06 schrieb Ross Boylan: >> I >> remember someone saying "a pigeon could install Debian" because if you >> just click to accept the default responses you're likely to end up >> with >> a reasonable--not necessarily optimal, but reasonable--syst

Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Wed 19 Sep 2012 at 03:14:05 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Richard Owlett writes: >> >> > Should one not be able to switch out of the installation process and >> > into a browser (2 are already included) to search out answers? >> >> One should be able to. Since I haven't tried the

Re: Disable X-Server temporary

2012-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > OT: When I read about Debian's runlevel 1 I noticed that for > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 using Firefox 15.0.1 I > have to scroll to the right, no line break :(. The scrolling problem is the same for other browsers too. It appears to be a "web site htm

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 18:15:31, lee wrote: > > > Because Windows OEM installations are always -regardless the version- > > quick and take little time but we are not talking here about this, you > > know... > > No, they aren't. You've tested them all? There are special OEM versions usually not ava

www.debian-administration.org

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Regarding to a thread on Debian user mailing list (Re: Disable X-Server temporary), I noticed an issue for the website http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 [1]. Since you're the copyright holder, I suspect you're the maintainer too. Regards, Ralf [1] On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 12:53 -0600

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:36:38 +0200 lee wrote: ... > Run a game like X3 and it will easily need more than 3GB. Have > seamonkey or another graphical web browser open at the same time and > that adds about another 1.2GB. That's another "average requirement". > Of course, you have a WM of some so

Re: www.debian-administration.org

2012-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Regarding to a thread on Debian user mailing list (Re: Disable X-Server > temporary), I noticed an issue for the website > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 [1]. > Since you're the copyright holder, I suspect you're the maintainer too. And the problem is fixed

Re: www.debian-administration.org

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:36:27 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Regarding to a thread on Debian user mailing list (Re: Disable > > X-Server temporary), I noticed an issue for the website > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 [1]. > > Since you're the copyright holde

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lionel Trésaugues
First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with Debian. I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the discussion. How important is it to you to be able to run Debian? Would it be worth some spectacles, or some new ones if you already wear them? (This sol

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 23:40 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > The fonts (with the same hinting and antialiasing settings) And the sub-pixel order is equal too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Shane Johnson
Just a wild stab in the Dark here, could it be interlaced? Shane On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 23:40 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > The fonts (with the same hinting and antialiasing settings) > And the sub-pixel order is equal too? > > > -- >

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this > value ? I still feel that a very minor difference in the refresh rates might be at t

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this value ? I still feel that a very minor difference in

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-19 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 05:30:29PM +0200, lee wrote: > Rob Owens writes: > > > Looks like gecko-mediaplayer is the replacement for mozilla-mplayer. > > Testing it now... > > Let me guess: It doesn't work. > I couldn't get it to work, but I may have gotten a lead. Several web articles talk abou

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > >> Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > >> knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea h

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 00:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: > > On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: > > >> Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of > >

Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad

2012-09-19 Thread Dr Beco
Hi Andrei, Hi Camaleón, On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Most Fn keys need some configuration in software. Probably the more used > ones are already configured by default. See if you get some event from > it with 'xev'. If you do you can configure KDE to do something on

Re: networking with virtual machine

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Neal Murphy writes: > On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 05:59:47 PM lee wrote: >> Neal Murphy writes: >> > So yes, if you want 'real' networking, you'll need bridges and taps. >> >> Thank you, I'll have to look into taps then. >> >> Do you think it's a good idea to just create a bridge device wit

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > Now seriously, I already mentioned that the OS installation process is > not the problem for users to keep linux but the "afterwards", the day-to- > day issues. And here is where the user's attitude becomes so important > and vital for the matter: well informed users (and use

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > Is that a big enough difference, in your opinion, that I should take the > trouble > to test and document both install processes? What are you going to install on? My suggestion would be to use a software RAID-1 (or RAID-10) and put everything onto that because hard disk

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Mi, 19 sep 12, 18:15:31, lee wrote: >> >> > Because Windows OEM installations are always -regardless the version- >> > quick and take little time but we are not talking here about this, you >> > know... >> >> No, they aren't. > > You've tested them all? There are s

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Celejar writes: > Your numbers are much too high. Maybe it's because I've been more looking at the virtual memory that top shows. What's actually resident can be much less. Still: , [ top ] | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND | 14529 lee

Re: let logrotate create an new empty file?

2012-09-19 Thread lee
Meike Stone writes: > So anyone has an idea to create the logfile? touch /var/log/logfile chown user:user /var/log/logfile chmod u+rw /var/log/logfile # probably not needed >From your explanations, I understand that logrotate would create the file if logrotate rotates the file, which requires

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:25:34 +0200 lee wrote: ... > (Is it really $250 for a windoze license? I have one I couldn't avoid > getting; maybe I should sell it. If you want to make an offer, please > send it directly to me and not to the list.) If you have an OEM license, it can't be transferred

Re: Installation

2012-09-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:29:18 +0200 lee wrote: > Celejar writes: > > > Your numbers are much too high. > > Maybe it's because I've been more looking at the virtual memory that top > shows. What's actually resident can be much less. Still: > > > , [ top ] > | PID USER PR NI VIRT

Re: networking with virtual machine

2012-09-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 08:42:57 PM lee wrote: > Neal Murphy writes: > > On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 05:59:47 PM lee wrote: > >> Neal Murphy writes: > >> > So yes, if you want 'real' networking, you'll need bridges and taps. > >> > >> Thank you, I'll have to look into taps then. > >>

Re: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table

2012-09-19 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 00:27 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label > >> 2) Is "msdos" a valid option to choose for this hard drive? > > Yes it is. > > Is there some output if you run > > # parted /dev/sdb > mklabel msdos > So, I did $s

Re: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table

2012-09-19 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
lee wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes: > >> I am trying to parition a new "Western Digital WD Scorpio Black 750 GB >> SATA 3 GB/s 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Internal Bulk/OEM 2.5-Inch Mobile Hard >> Drive" but with no success. >> >> $sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 7501563729

Re: Satellite P870 issues - Video + ethernet [SOLVED]

2012-09-19 Thread Julian DeMarchi
On 09/17/2012 10:41 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > Is the GT630M not supported? Yes it is supported. The methods I found for trying to switch did not work. What I tried was to blacklist the i915 driver, load the nvidia driver with the modeset=1 option. --julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Mplayer-gui error

2012-09-19 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hi, I just updated mplayer with the official ppa from http://www.deb-multimedia.org , but the package mplayer-gui broke and it can't install now :( Please see my error message here -> http://www.sendspace.com/file/jlys9a Thanks for all help