Re: Can't find cable internet connection

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:39:55PM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > I use Debian unstable (i386 port) on a PC with an AMD Athlon 64, 3500x > chip. Debian is up to date as of about 5/15/07. I get the Internet over > a cable modem. > > For the last two days I have been unable to access the Internet

Re: Gaim with corrector of orthography in pt-BR in system en-US

2007-05-19 Thread Alejandro Barcena Campos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 João Schmutz wrote: > Ok, > > Thank you, but I am wanting to only change the ortográfico corrector, > and not it entire program. > I solved it putting "lang es" in ~/.aspell.conf to hace it in spanish. Install aspell-pt-br and put "lang pt-br" Jus

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Gnu_Raiz
> Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Between those who post OT threads, and those who whine about the OT >threads, it's hard to say what's more annoying. > >I dunno. I just ignore 'em all. >Mark ROFL Those are some true words short and sweet and to the point! Nice! I consider this like the

Re: .profile, .Xmodmap, xorg.conf have no effect

2007-05-19 Thread Matthias Brennwald
Subject: Re: .profile, .Xmodmap, xorg.conf have no effect From: Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:35:42 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 22:00:32 +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: Dear all After my succes

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 01:50:10 AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > ROFL Those are some true words short and sweet and to the point! > Nice! I consider this like the newspaper how many people read the > whole paper cover to cover? One main difference is that the real cost of the newspap

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 19 May 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > [4] FWIW, forums.debian.net has an offtopic section that actually > > seems to be used appropriately, without bothering the technical > > discissions in other sections. > > Debian seems

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:26:59AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > If you want to be off topic yet marginally related to Debian, use > -curiosa. If it has nothing to do with Debian at all, pick from the > multitude of fora where it would be on topic. [qoute Joey Hess] To be clear, I am not sugges

Re: Can't find cable internet connection

2007-05-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/07 02:02, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:39:55PM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: >> I use Debian unstable (i386 port) on a PC with an AMD Athlon 64, 3500x >> chip. Debian is up to date as of about 5/15/07. I get the Internet

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Joey Hess wrote: Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal, I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of offtopic posts there. Right on Joey! And

nvidia-kernel-source and Xen

2007-05-19 Thread Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby
Hi, I am running Sid + Xen and I am used to patch the nvidia-kernel-source [1] in order to make it Xen friendly [2]. I was surprised to see, when I appliyed the patch that the source are already patched: I mean "patch" command tells me so. Is Xen compliance included or is it just a mistake I m

Re: nvidia-kernel-source and Xen

2007-05-19 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Saturday 19 May 2007 11:49:55 Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby, vous avez écrit : > Hi, > > I am running Sid + Xen and I am used to patch the nvidia-kernel-source [1] > in order to make it Xen friendly [2]. > I was surprised to see, when I appliyed the patch that the source are > already patched:

Re: stop postfix mail.log to syslog

2007-05-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.05.07 15:02, Simon wrote: > How do i configure syslog to only log mail to mail.log. The default > debian postfix logs to mail.log and syslog at the same time with the > same data. postfix logs using syslog mechanism. It's syslog daemon who sends those data to more lists. check /etc/syslog.co

Re: Can't find cable internet connection

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:06:21AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Do you happen to have zeroconf installed? And you still didn't post the > > output of /sbin/ifconfig. > > Depending on where in the CONUS he is, and presuming he's not in the > Aleutians, it's anywhere between 01:04 AKDT and 05:05

Re: what door or window did I leave open this time?

2007-05-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.05.07 01:19, Jude DaShiell wrote: > The script used to generate the log appears first followed by the partial > preserved log. > #!/bin/bash > # file: cs - clamscan script > clamscan -l clamscan`date -I`.log -r --bell --exclude=/dev --exclude=/proc > --exclude=/pts --exclude=/tmp -i --detec

Upgraded to Lenny from etch, can't install packages

2007-05-19 Thread Jon Jahren
Hey all I upgraded from etch to lenny yesterday, and something seems broken. Whenever I try to install a package, all I get is this: debian:~# aptitude install slapd Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states...

No audio with flash player 9

2007-05-19 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Hi, I've been using some flash movies with flash player 7 with no problems, but when I installed flash player 9 I completely lost audio. This happened both with forefox and epiphany, I just have these two browser. Any hint? Best regards. -- Andrea -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become > nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read > our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of > offtopic posts there. I've i

Re: Upgraded to Lenny from etch, can't install packages

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:34:25PM +0200, Jon Jahren wrote: > I upgraded from etch to lenny yesterday, and something seems broken. > Whenever I try to install a package, all I get is this: Can you please post your sources.list and the output of 'apt-cache policy slapd'. Regards, Andrei -- If

Re: Upgraded to Lenny from etch, can't install packages

2007-05-19 Thread Jon Jahren
Andrei Popescu wrote: Can you please post your sources.list and the output of 'apt-cache policy slapd'. Regards, Andrei sources.list: deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free # Security updates deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free # Secu

Re: Burning files to a CD with K3b

2007-05-19 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Amy Templeton wrote: > Eric A. Bonney wrote: > >> Is there anyway to get K3b to allow you to write files to the CD >> from a network drive? In order to burn any files to a cd I first >> have to copy them to my local drive then copy them over. Any >>

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread Deboo ^
On 5/18/07, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mkdir ~/.Xresource ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm ~/.Xresources/XTerm-system echo "#include \"XTerm-system\"" >>~/.Xresources/XTerm echo ".Xterm*font: X" >>~/.Xresources/XTerm where X is something like: -misc-fix

man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Deboo ^
How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at other times when it beeps? Regards, Deboo -- Please don't Cc: me, I'm subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 08:43 +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 16:41:49 PM -0400, Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal, > > > > I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become > > nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs wh

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread Michael V. De Palatis
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:19:54PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:07:22AM EDT, s. keeling wrote: > > This happened years ago, and I believe you can blame upstream for it, > > not FOSS. Nowadays, ~/.Xdefaults is often a symbolic link that points > > to ~/.Xresources. > > Ah ..

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:10:36PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at > other times when it beeps? You don't, but you can stop the bell for your xterm or for the entire system. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 18:10 +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at > other times when it beeps? blacklist pcspkr In /etc/modprobe.d/ To make sure things don't get over written during an update/upgrade, I create a file called blacklist-hostna

Secure and remote access

2007-05-19 Thread Bill
Hi folks, What's the best way to provide secure and remote access to a Windows user. I want to give my friend access to Apache so he can work on our website. tia, b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Secure and remote access

2007-05-19 Thread mailing.lists
Bill wrote: Hi folks, What's the best way to provide secure and remote access to a Windows user. I want to give my friend access to Apache so he can work on our website. tia, b. The best way would be to use SSH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

this is a test: please, ignore.

2007-05-19 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Secure and remote access

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 07:10:34AM -0700, Bill wrote: > What's the best way to provide secure and remote access to a > Windows user. I want to give my friend access to Apache so > he can work on our website. putty Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it wel

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Dave
* Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-19 08:59:41 -0400]: > Once that is done, it is gone forever... well just not loadable. I should add here that this will not affect ALSA for the desktop applications. ALSA uses other module paths to get it's sound applications going. The terminal be

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Mumia W..
On 05/19/2007 07:40 AM, Deboo ^ wrote: How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at other times when it beeps? Regards, Deboo Tell the less(1) pager to be quiet: export LESS="-q" man 1 less -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 06:51:39AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >> Also how to use the dektop icons that > >> DSL is able to use with fluxbox? > >> I already installed fbdesk but it > >> seems of no use at all or is it > >> buggy? > > > >ibid. > > > What's that ibid and how do you install it? I couldn

Re: Secure and remote access

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 07:10:34AM -0700, Bill wrote: > Hi folks, > > What's the best way to provide secure and remote access to a > Windows user. I want to give my friend access to Apache so > he can work on our website. > As Andrei and the anonymous poster from Arizona noted, ssh is the best

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:11:37PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > However, I do think it would be good to add language to the description > of the mailing list that suggests that people take off-topic > conversations elsewhere. Perhaps a clarification in the code of conduct. As I see it, OT is for

Re: getting a new Debian box

2007-05-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:51:46PM -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote: > So I decided to get a desktop. I need some advices. > > I use computer primarily for reading/writing emails, browsing internet, > occasional openoffice.org use, watching movies on dvds or any mpeg > movies. Most other times I

Re: No audio with flash player 9

2007-05-19 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On 5/19/07, Andrea Giuliano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've been using some flash movies with flash player 7 with no problems, but when I installed flash player 9 I completely lost audio. This happened both with forefox and epiphany, I just have these two browser. Any hint? I'm pretty s

Re: getting a new Debian box

2007-05-19 Thread mailing.lists
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:51:46PM -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote: So I decided to get a desktop. I need some advices. I use computer primarily for reading/writing emails, browsing internet, occasional openoffice.org use, watching movies on dvds or any mpeg movi

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 08:44:09AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:11:37PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > > > However, I do think it would be good to add language to the description > > of the mailing list that suggests that people take off-topic > > conversations else

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 08:44:09AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > As I see it, OT is for stuff that isn't really debian-specific but that > you would like input on from debian people. For example, if I've come > to know and trust the debian-user community and I need help with fixing > a hard

Re: getting a new Debian box

2007-05-19 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:51 -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote: Hi All! I've been using Debian with my desktop replacement laptop HP Pavilion zv5260 for about 2 years now. This was the only computer I had for about 2.5 years. I got tired of using the laptop constantly. I wa

Tool to list sections and their size

2007-05-19 Thread Andre Majorel
Is there an existing tool to list all the sections in a release along with, for each section, - the cumulated Size of the available packages in that section and - the cumulated Size (not Installed-Size) of the packages in that section that are currently installed on the system ? Thanks in a

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 10:28:19 AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I guess the question is where to draw and then who draws that line. Roberto, please don't try to go all philosophical on us acting and pontificating as if you didn't understand what and who Joey was talking a

Re: GNU/Anubis (Mail Signatures)

2007-05-19 Thread Jan Huelsbergen
Hey Martin, On Friday 18 May 2007, Martin Marcher wrote: > i need to add certain signatures (by law now *sigh*, we carefully > avoided this annoyance until now) to all our outgoing mail, a bit of > googling led me to GNU/Anubis (http://www.gnu.org/software/anubis/) > which seems capable of doing t

Meine360 die Community für deine XBOX360 ist Online!

2007-05-19 Thread News!
Hallo, die neue XBOX360 Community ist Online! Hier gibt es alles für deine XBOX 360! Portal mit Forum! Schau doch mal vorbei! Die Anmeldung ist natürlich kostenfrei! Wir suchen auch noch Mitglieder für das -Liveteam -Spielenewsteam -und Xboxnewsteam! Wenn du im Forum aktiv Mitarbeitest und das

Re: Can't find cable Internet Connection

2007-05-19 Thread Edward C. Jones
Roberto C Sanchez asked about lights on the motherboard lan connector for the cable modem. This lan connector is the type of connector used on US telephones which has a lever that must be pressed to release the connector. There is a light on which is just counterclockwise of where the lever ent

Re: actual dimensions of X display.

2007-05-19 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:07:38PM +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote: >> You can run xrandr from the commandline or, if you're using Kde, go into > > No you cant. It needs X to be running. > Yes, I thought that was the point. -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.l

Re: Can't find cable Internet Connection

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 03:11:51PM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > Roberto C Sanchez asked about lights on the motherboard lan connector > for the cable modem. This lan connector is the type of connector used on > US telephones which has a lever that must be pressed to release the > connector. T

Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-19 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
Hi, I'm not subscribed, so can any responses be CC'd directly to me? But, down to the point: I have a Gentoo 'box running their modified 2.6.17 kernel, which has /home as a software RAID5. If I'm to move over to Etch, what would be the best way to move over while keeping the /home intact?

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Saturday 19 May 2007 08:02, M. Fioretti wrote: > Offensive or not, it doesn't even matter with you, will you please > realize it? You are simply making a lot of USELESS noise. > > > I just move on and forget it. More people should try that. > > and this is, once more, the same pathetic excuse f

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-19 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-05-11 10:48:06, schrieb Joe Hart: >> On the other hand, how can one pro actively stop a band of terrorists? > > Interesting... > > Where are the terrorists? > Some of the 23 911-Terrosts are definitivly alive. > >

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Gnu_Raiz
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone receiving their email via ham radio would be in a bit of a pickle >since it would be them that caused such messages to be transmitted on >ham frequencies. Thats a good point, we should be considerate of other users, when we make our ra

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 5/18/07, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > mkdir ~/.Xresource > > ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm ~/.Xresources/XTerm-system > > Also, how do you specify xterm options like bg and fg in these files > or the .Xdefaults file? I set it in the

Re: Can't find cable Internet Connection

2007-05-19 Thread Edward C. Jones
Andrei Popescu said: > Do you have the packages 'zeroconf' or 'network-manager' installed? Neither one is installed. I have Debian unstable updated to approximately 5/15/07. What network programs should be installed? Where are they started in the init files? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: xterm fonts

2007-05-19 Thread s. keeling
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:07:22AM EDT, s. keeling wrote: > > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:06:41PM EDT, s. keeling wrote: > > > > > > > > BTW, on many systems these days, .Xdefaults is deprecated and > > > > .Xresources is used inst

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Deboo ^
On 5/19/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 05/19/2007 07:40 AM, Deboo ^ wrote: > How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at > other times when it beeps? > > Regards, > Deboo > Tell the less(1) pager to be quiet: export LESS="-q" man 1 less I already made an

Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5

2007-05-19 Thread David Dawson
Florian Kulzer wrote: > aptitude -F '%c %p%?v' search '~R(~Rkcontrol)~dkde|kcontrol' | awk '{print > $1,$2,$3}' Thanks, Here's the output: p gamin i kcontrol 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6 i kdebase-data 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6 i kdelibs-data 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8 i kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.5a-1 i libarts1c2a 1.5.5-1 i libko

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 11:18:22 AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > What it comes down to pretty much is some people want a moderated > debian-user list! The only choice left is to see if you can > change, the list type to moderated, or add more to the code of > conduct. I don't kno

Problems loading modules from init

2007-05-19 Thread Dallas Clement
I'm trying to load modules from an init script that is executing in a cross-compiled 2.6.21 kernel. When I try to load a module with the 'modprobe' command - I'm getting a very simple error which is not of much use: modprobe -v scsi_mod The error message is "modprobe: Failed to load module scsi

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:17 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Saturday 19 May 2007 08:02, M. Fioretti wrote: > > Offensive or not, it doesn't even matter with you, will you please > > realize it? You are simply making a lot of USELESS noise. > > > > > I just move on and forget it. More people should tr

Re: getting a new Debian box

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 07:43 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > I believe the correct model number is the XPS 421, not the 521. At > least that is what was posted on Groklaw. Dimension E520, Inspiron E1505 and XPS 410 Cheers. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Finge

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Joey Hess
Deboo ^ wrote: > I already made an alias to less to use less -q. That works if I use > less manually but just not in man. > > I'll try what Greg said above. If you set PAGER='less -q' that will work. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 20:13 +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 11:18:22 AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > What it comes down to pretty much is some people want a moderated > > debian-user list! The only choice left is to see if you can > > change, the list typ

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Mike Bird
On Saturday 19 May 2007 11:19, Greg Folkert wrote: > But just HOW do you fix this kind of problem on an *OPEN* list, > especially for a Debian Developer, that does the "sword" packages and > the cyrus-sasl2 package? (and others packages) > > Come, lets here a solution, I've discussed some solutions

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Joey Hess
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > I guess the question is where to draw and then who draws that line. While M. Fioretti has basically pointed out that no matter what line is drawn, there's still clearly a problem, and so I'm tempted to not respond; it's actually easy to draw a line. There exists a gent

Re: Can't find cable Internet Connection

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:42:57PM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > Andrei Popescu said: > > Do you have the packages 'zeroconf' or 'network-manager' installed? > > Neither one is installed. I have Debian unstable updated to > approximately 5/15/07. What network programs should be installed? Where

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > I guess the question is where to draw and then who draws that line. > > While M. Fioretti has basically pointed out that no matter what line > is drawn, there's still clearly a problem, and so I'm tempted to not > respond; it

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-19 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 20:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:25:26PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > > > > Given the current status of gay marriage in the U.S., we plainly do not > > have an unambiguous right to the pursuit of happiness -- not when the > > President, playin

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > No, there is another way, making all Debian lists subscriber only. And what exactly is this going to solve? How many of the "offenders" are not subscribed already? Besides, I would definitely not want all lists to be subscriber

Clamav-deamon Bug

2007-05-19 Thread David Baron
Known and submitted bug. Recently started happening on my box: On bootup, the daemon fails to start. A little later on I can manually run the /etc/init.d/clamav-daeamon start and it does work. Is there a proper work around for now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 14:34:50 PM -0400, Greg Folkert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > That changes many thing. First off BANNING is not the answer. It > will be seen a a "bad thing" by the blogosphere and some journalists > that see only bad things. You mean more bad than "the main support forum of o

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Greg Folkert([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:17 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > On Saturday 19 May 2007 08:02, M. Fioretti wrote: > > > Offensive or not, it doesn't even matter with you, will you please > > > realize it? You are simply making a lot of USELESS noi

Re: Clamav-deamon Bug

2007-05-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-19 22:51:26 +0300]: > Known and submitted bug. Recently started happening on my box: > On bootup, the daemon fails to start. > A little later on I can manually run the /etc/init.d/clamav-daeamon start and > it does work. > > Is there a proper work aroun

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 15:12:51 PM -0400, Hal Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Not true. For example, I'm having trouble with Firefox >crashing Asking here could help a great deal with that. Of course. But rambling for months about religion or internal USA politics has nothing to do with i

Re: man beeps more than woman

2007-05-19 Thread Mumia W..
On 05/19/2007 12:43 PM, Deboo ^ wrote: On 5/19/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 05/19/2007 07:40 AM, Deboo ^ wrote: > How do you stop man from beeping when going below or above EOF or at > other times when it beeps? > > Regards, > Deboo > Tell the less(1) pager to be quiet: export L

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Mumia W..
On 05/19/2007 01:19 PM, Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:17 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: On Saturday 19 May 2007 08:02, M. Fioretti wrote: Offensive or not, it doesn't even matter with you, will you please realize it? You are simply making a lot of USELESS noise. I just move on and for

Unknown symbol devres_alloc

2007-05-19 Thread Dallas Clement
I'm trying to load a module libata.ko and I'm getting an error message: libata: Unknown symbol devres_alloc I can see that this symbol is found in the file /lib/devres.o within my linux 2.6.21.1 distribution. However, I'm not sure how this symbol should be loaded. Can anyone please help? Than

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Joey Hess writes: > I feel that an appropriate policy for -user would be that when offtopic > threads exceed a few messages, the people posting to the thread should > take it to private email. If offtopic threads get much larger than that, > people who have posted large portions of the thread shou

Re: Clamav-deamon Bug

2007-05-19 Thread Klein Moebius
* Dave Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-19 15:35:55 -0500]: > Not really. The only way I could get it to start at boot was to > configure using dpkg-reconfigure clamav-base and set it to run as root. > > Ugly, Ugly... Ouch! No way to set it to a group with adequate permissions to start,

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
M. Fioretti wrote: No, sorry, the problem is a concrete, objective one: * everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money every time these characters rerun their show It's called IMAP - the bandwidth and time to download headers is negligible, even over a dial-up. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:53:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > See: Posting about religion is identically off-topic on gentoo-user as > it is here, and thus belongs in neither place. Posting about buying a > new motherboard is more relevant here *if* you will be putting Debian on > it, and so belo

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:19:31PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > M. Fioretti wrote: > >No, sorry, the problem is a concrete, objective one: > > > >* everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money every time > > these characters rerun their show > > > > > It's called IMAP - the bandwidt

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 19 May 2007, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 15:12:51 PM -0400, Hal Vaughan > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Not true. For example, I'm having trouble with Firefox > >crashing Asking here could help a great deal with that. > > Of course. But rambling for months about re

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 17:19:31 PM -0400, Miles Fidelman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > M. Fioretti wrote: > >No, sorry, the problem is a concrete, objective one: > > > >* everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money every time > > these characters rerun their show > > > It's called IMAP

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Amy Templeton
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:19:31PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > M. Fioretti wrote: > > >No, sorry, the problem is a concrete, objective one: > > > > > >* everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money > > >every time these characters reru

[OT] Re: .profile, .Xmodmap, xorg.conf have no effect

2007-05-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 09:00:06 +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: >> On Fri, 18 May 2007 22:35:42 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: >>> On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 22:00:32 +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: >>> Dear all >>> >>> After my success with Debian Etch on a PowerBook-G4 I tried installing >>> Debia

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 17:33:41 PM -0400, Hal Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday 19 May 2007, M. Fioretti wrote: > > * everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money every > > time these characters rerun their show > > How do I pay real money? It doesn't cost me extra on my

OT: Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
M. Fioretti wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 17:19:31 PM -0400, Miles Fidelman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: M. Fioretti wrote: No, sorry, the problem is a concrete, objective one: * everybody with any metered connection _pays_ real money every time these characters rerun their show

Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)

2007-05-19 Thread Owen Heisler
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 00:10 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 18:34 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:02 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/info/vesa-display-codes.html > > > > Very helpful! Although no 1280x960 (grr) unfortunately.

Re: can you recommend any open source presentation tool?

2007-05-19 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Serena Cantor writes: > Which software is Linux's equivalence of M$'s PowerPoint? I would recommend foiltex + pdflatex. -- --Jhair -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:02:01PM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 10:28:19 AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I guess the question is where to draw and then who draws that line. > > Roberto, > > please don't try to go all philosophical on us acting

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:42:11PM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > > * you just gave Roberto a hook to rerun his trite and disgusting talks > about "if you had as much competence and spare time as me, **you** > could waste it in so many ways to not see **my** behavioral problems" > Don't feed th

efficient retrieval of POP mail [WAS: Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:51:51PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > If somebody's current provider provides only > POP, should they be forced to switch to another provider just for > the privilege of being on this list? > IMAP is better by many measures. However, if you do not require access to

Re: OT: Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Klein Moebius
* Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-19 17:55:34 -0400]: > Enough already, or does somebody have to mention Nazis? Nazis. There, I did it... Regards, Klein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: links2 error from console

2007-05-19 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:55:39AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > When I try to start links2 -g from the console I get this error: > > $ links2 -g > >-- DirectFB v0.9.25 - > (c) 2000-2002 convergence integrated media GmbH >

Re: OT: Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, May 19, 2007 17:55:34 PM -0400, Miles Fidelman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Please avoid this kind of technical suggestions in this thread: > > > >* it is still the same unacceptable "since you can buy ear plugs, I > > can yell whenever I want" attitude. See my previous messages > > >

Re: Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:53:55PM +0100, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not subscribed, so can any responses be CC'd directly to me? But, > down to the point: I have a Gentoo 'box running their modified 2.6.17 > kernel, which has /home as a software RAID5. If I'm to move over to > Et

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Joey Hess wrote: > >I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become >nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read >our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of >offtopic posts there. I've in the past threatened to leave -user >entire

Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 10:15:01PM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 14:34:50 PM -0400, Greg Folkert > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > That changes many thing. First off BANNING is not the answer. It > > will be seen a a "bad thing" by the blogosphere and some journalists > > that

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 03:12:51PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > We had a problem on the Libranet list where a number of us got into some > serious and deep discussions about religion and politics. Not one > person was being disrespectful or calling names, but there were a few > people that ne

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