Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
%% Andy Firman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: af> He loves the feeling of browsing the repository, picking out games af> and educational tools for his kids, and having me install with af> apt-get. Why do you have to install it? Put Synaptic onto his system, then he can install anything he wan

Re: software suspend 2 (swsusp2), patching a Debian source package kernel vs Vanilla

2004-10-22 Thread michf
Quoting "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On the webpage > (http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/Software-suspend-2.html) in Section > 2.4, they say regarding swsusp2 patches : > "If your kernel is not the vanilla one from kernel.org, you will have to > apply these patches manually and edit some of the

Re: Printing from Gimp

2004-10-22 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:38:49PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Pigeon wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:30:07PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I have an HP OfficeJet 5500 set up to print through CUPS. I can get it > > > to print from OpenOffice, from a browser

Re: Mail Server Questions

2004-10-22 Thread Arias Hung
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Phil Bardanes wrote: > Hi, noob here. > > We have five machines running various OSes (only one Windows box) with a > Debian sarge business server on our private network. Everything is run > through a dedicated firewall using iptables rules for NAT, packet > filtering, port f

Re: swap space size

2004-10-22 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 12:03:42AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > "Gilbert, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There is an issue that I do not fully understand that I have always kind of > > taken for rote. I was told back when I first started working with Unix that > > the swap space needed to

Re: GNOME desktop does not detect and mount CD in some units

2004-10-22 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
User xerces8 wrote:: As I said : I can mount them manually and they work, only automount in GNOME. Did you set the mount point in gnome mount applets properly ? Are they the same as in your /etc/fstab ? Sot yes, the files all exist. What exactly do you mean by "if all privileges are set correctly"

Re: aptitude: packages have been kept back

2004-10-22 Thread rds
--- rds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing is I install all my packages using aptitude. If I use apt-get, I > believe the aptitude database will be out of synch and I'd like to avoid > that. > > I tried "aptitude dist-upgrade bind9 dnsutils --simulate" but that offers me > to > install 626 NE

how stable is testing?

2004-10-22 Thread Gilbert, Joseph
Hi all, So, I'm sure this has been discussed before but I would like to get some up-to-date input on this. I have been administering a Debian network for about a year and a half now. >From my experience, stable does not have a quick path to getting version updates incorporated into it. This make

Re: Nvidia installation (nvidia-kernel-source)

2004-10-22 Thread Hasan
Hello, if that way fails , the nvidia installer is working good , just install it with kernel headers and it is ok. Download from nvidia.com. Then: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` (when not running X) sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run then play. (May be you should apt-get install bu

Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

2004-10-22 Thread Jim Hall
William Ballard wrote: My brother in law and nephew are above-average with computer skills but not C programmers. Both are resistant to trying the Knoppix CD I burned for them because I told them it's going to be really hard for them to get their sound card or network card or what have you work

Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

2004-10-22 Thread Jim Hall
William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:05:04PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Actually, you did (but not deliberately). Knoppix (from at least this year) gets both up and running automagically. Get them the newest Knoppix, and next time you're over there to fix their Windows system again,

Re: aptitude: packages have been kept back?

2004-10-22 Thread ms419
On Oct 17, 2004, at 5:51 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Oct 16 21:56 -0500]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone suggest how else to learn more about aptitude's problem with these "kept back" packages? Thanks! Which packages are you referring to exactly? Regards, The li

Re: compaq armada m700

2004-10-22 Thread Justin Guerin
On Monday 18 October 2004 02:41, Eduard Pauna wrote: > hi to all, > > from a little time a have the notebook from $subj. i installed on it > debian but i think i am a little stucked - couldn't find with google > or on the hp.com site the HorizSync & > VertRefresh for the display and i'm using thos

Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

2004-10-22 Thread Arias Hung
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Andy Firman wrote: > Now he is bragging about it to all the other Cops at the Police > Department and they all want Linux desktops now. I thought the subject implied that they had lives too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: aptitude, dpkg, apt

2004-10-22 Thread Ralph Katz
On 10/21/04 05:30, nx13372a wrote: How can i print this: Versions of packages clamav depends on: ii clamav-base 0.80-2 Base package for clamav, an anti-v ii clamav-freshclam [clamav-da 0.80-2 Downloads clamav virus databases f ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.2-1

Re: USB 2.0 speed

2004-10-22 Thread Alexandros Papadopoulos
On Friday 22 October 2004 15:08, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:06:38 +0300, Alexandros Papadopoulos > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have an external HDD case, that is USB 2.0 certified. When I boot > > my machine with KNOPPIX and have the USB case plugged, I get fast > >

Re: software suspend 2 (swsusp2), patching a Debian source package kernel vs Vanilla

2004-10-22 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * H. S. [Fri, Oct 22 2004, 02:11:09PM]: > If it is, I could just do > $> patch -p1 ../patch-name-here Look in what the swsusp2 patch tarball contains (untar it!). There are patches that are to be applied in some order, and there is a patch script that will do that for you. Regards, Edu

Re: software suspend 2 (swsusp2), patching a Debian source package kernel vs Vanilla

2004-10-22 Thread scorpix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On the webpage (http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/Software-suspend-2.html) in Section 2.4, they say regarding swsusp2 patches : "If your kernel is not the vanilla one from kernel.org, you will have to apply these patches manually and

Re: compaq armada m700

2004-10-22 Thread Bill Thompson
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:08 +0200 Eduard Pauna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi to all, > > from a little time a have the notebook from $subj. i installed on it > debian but i think i am a little stucked - couldn't find with google > or on the hp.com site the HorizSync & > VertRefresh for the di

Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

2004-10-22 Thread Ralph Katz
On 10/21/04 15:20, William Ballard wrote: My brother in law and nephew are above-average with computer skills but not C programmers. Both are resistant to trying the Knoppix CD I burned for them because I told them it's going to be really hard for them to get their sound card or network card or wh

Re: Not happy with Woody's Kmail and Konqorer Web Browser

2004-10-22 Thread David P James
On Tue 19 October 2004 19:41, Mateusz Åoskot wrote: > User Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:: > > Kmail because there seems to be no way to read just the email > > headers and then deleting spam on the server and loading only what > > I want. > > Did you try Thinderbird (Mozilla based e-mail client) ? Come

Re: Bugs in g++ on Sarge?

2004-10-22 Thread James Wiggs
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 11:22, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 08:59, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > >The bugs are *not* repeatable. I can type make, have the make > > > > choke on something like the above, type make again, and it will get > > > > through the compile.

Re: how stable is testing?

2004-10-22 Thread Szabó András
Hi! Testing sometimes had problems in the last some years, not so much, but more than zero is a problem :) Anyway, it is called testing :) I have some machines running stable debian & some testing packages, and i have no problems at all. So you can try it. Search google with "apt pinning" ant you

Re: Netatalk2

2004-10-22 Thread Aaron Hall
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Joachim Smit wrote: I did that manually, at the command line, while testing. Then I adapted a Debian's "skeleton" init script to the task, which I paste below. Then you need to make the appropriate symlinks in /etc/rcN.d, or use sysv-rc-conf to do that for you, or use file-rc.

Re: debian webhosting services

2004-10-22 Thread Richard Lyons
On Friday 22 October 2004 10:59, Upayavira wrote: > Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > > I am looking for debian webhosting service, probably dedicated, unless > > the speed and bandwidth are so good that it doesn't matter being > > shared. Does anybody have any suggestions? (of course price is very >

Re: how stable is testing?

2004-10-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 01:10:16AM +0200, Szabó András wrote: > Hi! > > Testing sometimes had problems in the last some years, not so much, > but more than zero is a problem :) Anyway, it is called testing :) > > András > Very few problems have lasted longer than two or three days - most of thes

Re: debian webhosting services

2004-10-22 Thread David Clymer
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 04:20, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > I am looking for debian webhosting service, probably dedicated, unless > the speed and bandwidth are so good that it doesn't matter being > shared. Does anybody have any suggestions? (of course price is very > important). > I use linode.com.

RE: how stable is testing?

2004-10-22 Thread Gilbert, Joseph
Well, I am very familiar with running mixed systems. Good to know that I am not breaking a holy rule with that. The procedure for setting it up is in the apt-get how to on Debian's site. You do have to be alert when doing an upgrade though. Sometimes packages will get removed erroneous if you d

Re: swap space size

2004-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 21:42 +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 12:03:42AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > "Gilbert, Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > > Well, boards that can take 4G are common these days, but there's a > limit of 2G on swap size (at least up to 2.4; don't k

Re: SB Live! with 2.6.8.1 kernel

2004-10-22 Thread Glenn Meehan
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 19:29, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > Kernel 2.6 comes with both ALSA and OSS drivers. It is very likely that > discover/hotplug try to load both and because of that the card does not > work properly. Make sure the alsa-base and alsa-oss packages are > installed, and that

Certificate expired (apache-ssl)

2004-10-22 Thread Victor Munoz
Hello. I have installed apache-ssl, and it generated a self-signed certificate which has expired recently. What should I do to renew it, or regenerate it? I haven't found a clear answer to this googling or in the documentation (probably because I don't know where to look or I don't know how this c

WiFi

2004-10-22 Thread Luke Kearney
Hi List, I am looking to purchase a wireless PCI card for a new machine here at my home. I was wondering if anyone can share sucess or horror stories about the Elecom range of products. I am wanting to use one machine as the access point and one machine as the client. I wasn't planing to deploy a h

ATI Radeon 7500 Support in Sarge

2004-10-22 Thread Gilbert, Joseph
Hey guys, I'm having some woes with getting Xwindows at the resolutions I want, both on my laptop and my home system. I've gotten the furthest on my laptop so I will talk about that. So, I ran xf86config and gave it all the data in regards to my video card and monitor and what not. This appeare

Re: Certificate expired (apache-ssl)

2004-10-22 Thread Denes PAL
Victor Munoz wrote: Hello. I have installed apache-ssl, and it generated a self-signed certificate which has expired recently. What should I do to renew it, or regenerate it? I haven't found a clear answer to this googling or in the http://www.inkatel.com/new/textos/sistemas/apache-ssl-php-mcr

Re: Creating new inbox Courier-IMAP

2004-10-22 Thread John L Fjellstad
Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm open to opinions regarding other antispam (bayesian) programs, if > other people have experiences with the versions available in testing/sarge. Never tried spamassasin, but I have pretty good experience with bogofilter. The only thing I don't like

Re: Certificate expired (apache-ssl)

2004-10-22 Thread Victor Munoz
> > > http://www.inkatel.com/new/textos/sistemas/apache-ssl-php-mcrypt-mod_perl/node6.html > > -- Thanks for the answer. I don't think I could use it really, because it assumes you have the source tree, and I installed it from the deb package. In the end, I tried some 'debian way'. dpkg-recon

Re: WiFi

2004-10-22 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Luke Kearney wrote: > Hi List, > I am looking to purchase a wireless PCI card for a new machine here at > my home. I was wondering if anyone can share sucess or horror stories > about the Elecom range of products. I am wanting to use one machine as what is its chipset

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baby steps required for a windiot

2004-10-22 Thread Jim Nielsen
Man I have tried many things and my greatest success has been that I have a debian 2.6.6 (I think!) that I booted with a net boot install CD which immediately configured networking and finished off by calling in a bunch of stuff over FTP. I used a wired card for it (it is a laptop). I thought I w

Re: baby steps required for a windiot

2004-10-22 Thread Kent West
Jim Nielsen wrote: Man I have tried many things and my greatest success has been that I have a debian 2.6.6 (I think!) that I booted with a net boot install CD which immediately configured networking and finished off by calling in a bunch of stuff over FTP. I used a wired card for it (it is a lapto

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You should use reply-to-list, not reply-to-all on mailing lists. Also, please see http://ursine.dyndns.org/wiki/index.php?title=Top_Posting Micheal Mukherji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Buffer is a logical cache maintained by the operating system in

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, because Linux doesn't see the CPU cache. I'd bet my last > kopek that Paul is talking about: > > $ cat /proc/meminfo > MemTotal: 1003760 kB > MemFree: 89652 kB > Buffers:138752 kB

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micheal Mukherji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I am not wrong, the standard OS terminology for it is "buffer > cache". I'm fairly sure that's not right, for reasons beyond redundant terminology... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.

Re: baby steps required for a windiot

2004-10-22 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Jim Nielsen wrote: I thought I was good but in following a how-to to get and install drivers for my DLINK (acx_100) wireless network card - It seems to me my directory structures don't match what the how-to's indicate. Oh yeah, and different distros might have different director

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Gaumer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 00:37, Paul Johnson wrote: >> OK, this is probably the most obvious question ever, but I just can't >> find it in Google or Wikipedia. >> >> Just what the heck is the difference between

Re: SB Live! with 2.6.8.1 kernel

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Glenn Meehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Which kernel options should I use? Should I create modules or compile > into the kernel? Go with modules for everything that isn't used to boot. You probably want the emu10k1 module. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATU

Re: wu-ftpd

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Gorka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because of my poor English I'll try to explain it in Spanish. OK, please take it to debian-user-spanish then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBecsIUzgNqloQMwcRAo2zAKCeNHHSP

Re: kopete problem after upgrade

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 techlists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A recent upgrade on my Sid Desktop has produced a strange problem > with kopete. Now on my contact list every other contact is encased > in a dark grey. The program functions ok, but it makes the contacts > ha

unsubscribe

2004-10-22 Thread Marvin Stodolsky
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Gorka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Because of my poor English I'll try to explain it in Spanish. OK, please take it to debian-user-spanish then. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBecsIUz

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 12:37:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, this is probably the most obvious question ever, but I just can't > find it in Google or Wikipedia. > > Just what the heck is the difference between buffer and cache in terms >

no joy with external USR modem

2004-10-22 Thread Silvan
The modem was working fine, and isn't very old. I set up a Linux box for a guy across town. I threw an ethernet card in and plugged the machine into my LAN to do a net install. All was well until I took it back over to try to futz around getting the thing to dial AOL for him. I'm not sure ho

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Eric Gaumer
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 20:05, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eric Gaumer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 00:37, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Kernel cache stores cached kernel data structures. So say you create a > > process, a new task_

Re: WiFi

2004-10-22 Thread Luke Kearney
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus: > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Luke Kearney wrote: > > > Hi List, > > I am looking to purchase a wireless PCI card for a new machine here at > > my home. I was wondering if anyone can share sucess or horror stories

Re: Bugs in g++ on Sarge?

2004-10-22 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 07:45:17AM -0400, James Wiggs wrote: >I'm trying to determine if I've found bugs in the C++ compiler > on Sarge or not. I'm trying to compile quickfix-1.9.2 and some of I tried compile, just for kicks. No problems. One question - what does the software do? Sarge,

Re: WiFi

2004-10-22 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Luke Kearney wrote: > > what is its chipset > > - if you cannot answer that, than you're in for some fun > > AR5001X+ some/most of atheros chips uses the madwifi driver ... but you'd need to double check that particular chipset madwifi does NOT support ad-h

Re: use of graphic card nVidia FX5700

2004-10-22 Thread Hasan
Download driver from nvidia.com. Then: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` (when not running X) sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run then play. (May be you should apt-get install build-essential , for missing build tools...) Hasan Degismez. Csaba wrote: Hello! I have Debian distributi

Re: Memory usage: buffer and cache

2004-10-22 Thread Micheal Mukherji
> > Buffers:138752 kB <<< > > Cached: 326116 kB <<< > > Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. If this is exactly what you are talking about, the 'top' command, and the meminfo shows the same numbers. It is the swap data that is currently in RAM.

want to get back apt urgetn help

2004-10-22 Thread Vijaya S
hi i accidentally removed apt package itself. now how do i get it back i tried with dpkg -i apt_0.6.25_i386.deb but i get error like Authenticating apt_0.6.25_i386.deb ... debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed. dpkg: error processing apt_0.6.25_i386.deb (--install):

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