On Oct 17, 2004, at 5:51 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Oct 16 21:56 -0500]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can anyone suggest how else to learn more about aptitude's problem
with these "kept back" packages?

Thanks!

Which packages are you referring to exactly?
Regards,

The list of packages being kept back is growing each time I run "aptitude dist-upgrade". Here is a current example:


wum:~# aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
apt aptitude autofs bash bind9 bsdmainutils debianutils fakeroot gawk
grep heimdal-dev libapache-mod-ssl libapache2-svn libapt-pkg-perl
libasn1-6-heimdal libdevmapper1.00 libdiscover1 libdiscover1-pic libgcc1
libgpmg1 libgssapi1-heimdal libhdb7-heimdal libkadm5clnt4-heimdal
libkadm5srv7-heimdal libkafs0-heimdal libkrb5-17-heimdal libnewt-dev
libnewt-pic libnewt0.51 libpng12-0 libreadline-common libreadline4
libsasl2 libsasl2-gssapi-mit libtiff4 libxml2 libxslt1.1 netselect nscd
quagga sasl2-bin slrn ssh-krb5 strace whiptail whois xsltproc
The following packages will be upgraded:
libexpat1
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 47 not upgraded.
Need to get 59.5kB of archives. After unpacking 4096B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]


"apt-get dist-upgrade" doesn't have this problem:

wum:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
apt aptitude autofs bash bind9 bsdmainutils debianutils fakeroot gawk grep
heimdal-dev libapache-mod-ssl libapache2-svn libapt-pkg-perl
libasn1-6-heimdal libdevmapper1.00 libdiscover1 libdiscover1-pic libexpat1
libgcc1 libgpmg1 libgssapi1-heimdal libhdb7-heimdal libkadm5clnt4-heimdal
libkadm5srv7-heimdal libkafs0-heimdal libkrb5-17-heimdal libnewt-dev
libnewt-pic libnewt0.51 libpng12-0 libreadline-common libreadline4 libsasl2
libsasl2-gssapi-mit libtiff4 libxml2 libxslt1.1 netselect nscd quagga
sasl2-bin slrn ssh-krb5 strace whiptail whois xsltproc
48 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 8988kB/11.7MB of archives.
After unpacking 1128kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


Here is a view from aptitude; I don't know how to un-hold bash, or why in this case aptitude wants to remove it:

Actions Undo Package Search Options Views Help
f10: Menu ?: Help q: Quit u: Update g: Download/Install/Remove Pkgs
aptitude 0.2.15.8 #Broken: 94 Will free 373MB of disk space DL Size: 59.5kB
id bash -1589kB 3.0-7 3.0-8
id bsdutils -160kB 1:2.12-10 1:2.12-10
p cfdisk-utf8 <none> 2.11n-5+1
id coreutils -7266kB 5.2.1-2 5.2.1-2
id debianutils -238kB 2.10.2 2.10.3
id dpkg -3961kB 1.10.23 1.10.23
id dselect -471kB 1.10.23 1.10.23
id e2fsprogs -1286kB 1.35-8 1.35-8
p elilo <none> 3.4-8
p elvis-tiny <none> 1.4-18
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I haven't held or removed any packages - only run "aptitude".

This seems to be a new feature of some releases back.  Try hitting
Shift-u and see if they are now marked as upgradable.

Thank you for your suggestion! Unfortunately I found <shift>-u had no effect.


What is wrong with aptitude? Has no one else observed this behavior? I am experiencing it on each of three machines running Debian.

Many thanks for your help!

Jack


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