deloptes writes:
> fxkl47BF wrote:
>
>> no offense taken
>> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
>> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
>> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
>> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
On Du, 10 oct 21, 10:31:58, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> > debian-user.
>
> While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
> most pr
On Du, 10 oct 21, 17:18:13, fxkl47BF wrote:
> just one more thing
>
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say
>
> i also have a mailfence account i will drop
>
On Du, 10 oct 21, 13:41:33, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> once again i totally agree and disagree
> gmail, yahoo, gmx, etc. state that they scan mail going through their service
They are free to scan all my postings to a publicly archived list, same
as the rest of the internet ;)
Kind regards,
Andrei
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fxkl47BF wrote:
> no offense taken
> i use expect_mkpasswd to generate passwords
> decades ago i got tired of trying to come up with user names
> i just use expect_mkpasswd to make a short unique name
> today everyone is trying to glean all of the personal info they can
> i try not give out any mo
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 19:46:39 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
[Mangled quoted text deleted]
> > You have a link to a statement of this policy?
> >
> > -
> >
> > Brian.
>
> i do not
> only a personal email from supp...@posteo.de
I tend to take such mails f
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 1:46 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > just one more thing
> >
> > posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> >
> > i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> >
> > their spam
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:18:13 +, fxkl47BF wrote:
> just one more thing
>
> posteo was mentioned as an alternative
> i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
> their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
> the account own has no say
You have a link to a statement of this
> In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> debian-user.
While protonmail might be used for such situations, in my experience
most protonmail users I've seen are just people that are sufficiently
just one more thing
posteo was mentioned as an alternative
i have a posteo account i will drop in a few months
their spam policy is to bounce it back to the sender
the account own has no say
i also have a mailfence account i will drop
a while back i stopped getting mail from my bank
i investigate
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:31 AM, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
> > In general, the circumstances which would require one to use a tool like
> >
> > protonmail are not commonly observed in connection with a list like
> >
> > debian-user.
>
> While protonmail mig
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 9:30 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > but on another mailing list i used this same address
> >
> > i was banned
> >
> > the admin apologized and explained later my add
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:44:50PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
> but on another mailing list i used this same address
> i was banned
> the admin apologized and explained later my address looked suspicious
Here they do not ban users based on e-mail domain alone.
You have to do something wor
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:23 AM, Greg Wooledge
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> > they must be up to no good
> >
> > i've used protonm
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 8:16 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:09:03PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > i understand and respect what you are saying
> >
> > i also reject it
> >
> > we have no way of knowing you are roberto
> >
> >
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> they must be up to no good
> i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied
> what am i missing
I suspect I know which mailing list you're t
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 01:09:03PM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> i understand and respect what you are saying
> i also reject it
> we have no way of knowing you are roberto
> following what you say it would make people feel warm and fuzzy if i called
> myself george washinton
> it's just judging a b
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On Sunday, October 10th, 2021 at 7:17 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez
wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> > in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> > they must be up to no good
> >
> > i've used pr
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 09:32:55AM +, fxkl47BF wrote:
>
> in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
> they must be up to no good
> i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied
> what am i missing
>
Services like protonmail have an importan
in a different mailing list it was implied that if a person uses protonmail
they must be up to no good
i've used protonmail for about 6 months now and been satisfied
what am i missing
On Monday, November 26, 2018 9:37:21 AM EST Mark Neidorff wrote:
>
> It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail
> service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think
> that really matters.
>
> If you know of an e
On Fri 07 Dec 2018 at 10:08:35 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 23:05:24 -0500 Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 + Ben Oliver wrote:
> > > On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 Mark Neidorff
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >...
> >
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 23:05:24 -0500
Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 +
> Ben Oliver wrote:
>
> > On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote:
> > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
> > >Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > >
> > >...
> > >
> > >> Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and th
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:59:25 +
Ben Oliver wrote:
> On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
> >Mark Neidorff wrote:
> >
> >...
> >
> >> Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old
> >
> >Limited storage? Who - big or small player
Am 2018-11-26 hackte Brian in die Tasten:
> On Mon 26 Nov 2018 at 09:37:21 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> gmail and yahoo. :)
He asked for a "friendly" EMail Service not a crappy free one
Depending on his traffic, he could get an account under my domain
which support IMAP/SMTP plus Squirrelmail
On Tuesday 27 November 2018 09:49:22 John Hasler wrote:
[...]
> You've reinvented parts of Mailagent and Exim.
With something I am familiar with and doesn't need a 200 page help file.
Similar to skinning cats, first make sure its truly dead. ;-)
--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxe
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:04:48 +1100
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 26.11.18 21:12, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
> > Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old
> >
> > Limited storage? Who - big or small player - of
Gene writes:
> No for everything that clamav gives a clean bill of health, it tells
> kmail to go get the mail when a mailfile in /var/mail is closed after
> procmail writes it there. Kmail looks at the headers and if spamd said
> it was spam, sorts it to the spam folder. procmail takes care of the
On Tuesday 27 November 2018 08:41:32 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 09:51:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I even wrote a script to couple kmail so the incoming mail only
> > exists few a few milliseconds in /var/mail.
>
> I don't understand -- what is your script doing? Is
On Monday, November 26, 2018 09:51:49 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> I even wrote a script to couple kmail so the incoming mail only exists
> few a few milliseconds in /var/mail.
I don't understand -- what is your script doing? Is it doing it only for
spam?
> I'm a lazy cuss, let the computer
> h
On 18-11-26 21:12:19, Celejar wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
Mark Neidorff wrote:
...
Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old
Limited storage? Who - big or small player - offers unlimited storage
for old emails?
My suggestion [0] (a 'small' pla
On Monday 26 November 2018 23:04:48 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 26.11.18 21:12, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
> >
> > Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage
> > > for old
> >
> > Limited storage? Who - big or small pla
On 26.11.18 21:12, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
> Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old
>
> Limited storage? Who - big or small player - offers unlimited storage
> for old emails?
There are various values for old
I like to download and
> process the email locally using either kmail or thunderbird (doesn't matter
> which to me. I have experience with both.)
>
> If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP connections,
> would you please post it in a reply.
My impression
On Monday 26 November 2018 21:22:35 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 26.11.18 17:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Get on the horn and ask your isp if they run a mailserver. Mine
> > does, and I use it, but when I first started, I had to call their
> > network guy and have him whitelist all the mailing lis
debian-user writes:
> Here, down under, that's the norm - I've never heard of an ISP which
> so despises the 'S' that there's no mail. We generally have a choice
> of IMAP or POP3. (I have fetchmail set to use the latter.)
They just about always offer email service but it can be pretty
bad. You're
On 26.11.18 17:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Get on the horn and ask your isp if they run a mailserver. Mine does, and
> I use it, but when I first started, I had to call their network guy and
> have him whitelist all the mailing lists I an on.
Here, down under, that's the norm - I've never heard of
had a static IP and my own domain for
> > nearly 15 years. I set up a mailserver which has run without
> > missing a beat in all that time.
> >
> > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own
> > e-mail service. I'm moving from my static IP to
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 10:40:33 -0600
John Hasler wrote:
> Joe writes:
> > Are you hanging on to your domain name(s)? Many domain hosts also
> > offer limited email facilities, which is no problem if you're
> > downloading regularly.
>
> Any decent registry will forward mail addressed to your dom
Joe writes:
> Are you hanging on to your domain name(s)? Many domain hosts also
> offer limited email facilities, which is no problem if you're
> downloading regularly.
Any decent registry will forward mail addressed to your domain to the
address you specify. I have Gandi forward mail addressed t
I second Fastmail. Tuffmail is also worth a look.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:23 AM John Hasler wrote:
> Mark writes:
> > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP
> connections,
> > would you please post it in a reply.
>
> Newsguy.com
>
> I&#x
Hello,
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:55:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-11-26 at 09:37, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP
> > connections, would you please post it in a reply.
>
> I use Fastmail, which supported
Mark writes:
> If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP connections,
> would you please post it in a reply.
Newsguy.com
I've been using them for more than ten years with no problems. They
have spam filtering which you can turn off. They also have a Webmail
in
p a mailserver which has run without missing a beat in all
> that
> time.
>
> It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail
> service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think
> that
> really matters.
>
>
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500
Mark Neidorff wrote:
> If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP
> connections, would you please post it in a reply.
>
I thought that even the big boys allowed POP or IMAP downloading, I'm
pretty sure you can do it with gma
s run without missing
> a beat in all that time.
>
> It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own
> e-mail service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I
> don't think that really matters.
>
> Now, I don't like the webmail int
On 18-11-26 09:37:21, Mark Neidorff wrote:
If you know of an e-mail service that allows me POP3 and SMTP
connections would you please post it in a reply.
I recommend and use https://www.migadu.com/
They do have a webmail but they focus mainly on providing a simple email
service. They have
o give the static IP back and stop being my own e-mail
service. I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I don't think that
really matters.
Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old
emails that the big players (gmail, yahoo,etc) use. I like
Chris Davies wrote:
> Rob Owens wrote:
> > I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists. I always view in
> > thread mode, and I use Ctrl-d to delete entire threads that don't
> > interest me. I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
> > read the subject line.
>
> I've al
Rob Owens wrote:
> I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists. I always view in
> thread mode, and I use Ctrl-d to delete entire threads that don't
> interest me. I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
> read the subject line.
I've always tended to treat mailing lists
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
>
> Thanks for doing this.
u are welcome :)
>
> The trouble with GMail is that it is suboptimal when it comes to a
> couple of things when compared to Mutt, _for me_:
>
> - It's threading is linear, which is difficult to follow for
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
> hi list,
>
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists,
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how
Slicky Johnson:
>
> I simply mark threads ignored and I don't seen anymore mails regarding
> that topic. I currently use claws-mail, and I see you're using mutt.
> If I remember correctly you should easily be able to mark a thread as
> ignored.
Unfortunately, this isn't the case. You can mark (su
Dear Chen,
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists,
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:05:43 +0800
Chen Wei wrote:
> hi list,
>
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists,
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to ma
On Wednesday 13 April 2011 14:05:43 Chen Wei wrote:
> out of curiosity, I did a
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
>
> TOP20
> MUA | email provider
>
hi list,
as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists,
linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a
statistics on cho
On Thu, 13 May 2010 11:59:20 +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote:
> The attachments contain the lines written to /var/log/auth.log and
> /var/log/mail.log when the attempt to mail via NEWSERVER:587 failed,
> also my /etc/postfix/main.cf (without comments).
I see nothing about the failure. All seems to
(I'm sending this from a different account after several previous
attempts to reply vanished).
> > The TLS part seems to be sorted now (see my reply to Sven). But
> the
> > authentication still fails.
>
> Then, put the "full" Postfix log again so we can check where (and
> why)
> it stops now :-)
On Mon, 10 May 2010 00:11:34 +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote:
(...)
>> > May 9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: Untrusted TLS connection
>> > established to NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: TLSv1 with cipher
>> > RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)
>>
>> I guess your are having problems with the certific
> I don't have a solution, just one possibly helpful bit of advice: swaks
> is the tool for troubleshooting this sort of thing. You have gotten
> lots of useful information from Postfix and telnet, but I'd try using
> swaks to communicate with the server with and without TLS, and you'll
> see, for
Hi Camaleón,
> O.k. Then you need to setup Postfix SSL/TLS acting as client, not
> server.
Oh that's what I thought I did. I only changed smtp_* settings, not
smtpd_* settings.
> > So my questions are:
> > * How can I fix this in Postfix?
>
> Let's see the logs...
I already posted excerpts
> The problem with postfix is that it runs chrooted and the CA
> certificates are not copied into the chroot. See #287795¹.
>
> Sven
>
> ¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287795
Hi Sven,
Thanks for that suggestion. I had seen that bug and discounted it
because the patch is onl
On 2010-05-09 19:43 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
> (...)
>
>> May 9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: certificate verification failed
>> for NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: untrusted issuer /L=ValiCert Validation
>> Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation
>> Authority/CN=h
On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:06:52 +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote:
> I'm trying in vain to relay external mail from postfix on a Debian lenny
> machine to a Microsoft SMTP server on the Internet. I've been reading
> and searching for days. I've tried numerous combinations of settings
> although I'm not
On Sun, 9 May 2010 17:06:52 +0100
Clive Standbridge wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying in vain to relay external mail from postfix on a Debian
> lenny machine to a Microsoft SMTP server on the Internet. I've been
> reading and searching for days. I've tried numerous combinations of
> settings although
) server information using ehlo command in telnet:
$ telnet NEWSERVER 587
Trying NEWSERVER-IPADDR...
Connected to NEWSERVER.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Fri, 7 May 2010
14:43:28 +0100
ehlo
250-NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME Hello [MY-IPADDR]
250-
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:48:13AM +0530, Sharninder wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if there was nything like fetchmail for web based
> > access"?
> >
>
> not any AFAIK. All web mail clients might handle and do handle the
> client side differently even though they might be using the same
> IMAP or
>
> I was wondering if there was nything like fetchmail for web based
> access"?
>
not any AFAIK. All web mail clients might handle and do handle the
client side differently even though they might be using the same
IMAP or POP protocols on the server. If it's yahoo or hotmail u
migth find somethin
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 13:28, stan wrote:
> Is there any way to retrieve mail from a web based mail service, and feed
> it to. let's say procmail?
>
> Here's the scenario. My companby has recently changed from providing POP2
> based mail acces to a web browser based s
Is there any way to retrieve mail from a web based mail service, and feed
it to. let's say procmail?
Here's the scenario. My companby has recently changed from providing POP2
based mail acces to a web browser based solution.
I was using fetchmail to retireve tha mail and pass it on t
ray p wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good Linux friendly pop3 mail provider free
> would be good although pay would also work. Thanks for any thoughts on
> the subject.
Yahoo does well enough for me. In order to enable POP3/SMTP access, you
have to agree to let them send you a bit of spam on a we
Does anyone know of a good Linux friendly pop3 mail provider free would be good
although pay would also work. Thanks for any thoughts on the subject.
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