On Monday 26 November 2018 09:50:09 Brian wrote:

> On Mon 26 Nov 2018 at 09:37:21 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > (I know this is not Debian specific, but I think it is useful info
> > for the members of the list.)
> >
> > Admittedly, I'm spoiled.  I've had a static IP and my own domain for
> > nearly 15 years.  I set up a mailserver which has run without
> > missing a beat in all that time.
> >
> > It is time for me to give the static IP back and stop being my own
> > e-mail service.  I'm moving from my static IP to Verizon FIOS, but I
> > don't think that really matters.
> >
> > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for
> > old emails that the big players (gmail, yahoo,etc) use.  I like to
> > download and process the email locally using either kmail or
> > thunderbird (doesn't matter which to me.  I have experience with
> > both.)
> >
> > If you know of an e-mail service that allows me  POP3 and SMTP
> > connections, would you please post it in a reply.
> >
> > Thank you for any suggestions,
>
> gmail and yahoo. :)

Both of which ignore tfc's that don't suit their business models, with a 
lot of yahoo mail originating in their webmail servers being classified 
as spam. 

Gmail has such an aggressive duplication preventer that you'll never see 
your own posts echo'd back to you as assurance your post actually made 
it to the mailing list.

Get on the horn and ask your isp if they run a mailserver. Mine does, and 
I use it, but when I first started, I had to call their network guy and 
have him whitelist all the mailing lists I an on. That was about 3 years 
ago and I've not had to repeat it. The only problem is that its also an 
imap server, and they've disabled fetchmails ability to delete a 
downloaded via pop3 message, so I use FF to log into it, nominally 
daily, and clean house. About 5 minutes.

Other than that, it just works, and I'm only getting perhaps .01% of the 
spam I was getting thru a qmail server I used previously as an ex 
employee. So I'm tickled pink except for having to do the housekeeping 
with firefox.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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