Re: Reading an old HDD

On Sun 06 Oct 2024 at 03:02:13 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > * Henrik Ahlgren [24-10/06=Sun 11:20 +0300]: > > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > >> However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't > >> usually audible, although I've had a few very n

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Henrik Ahlgren [24-10/06=Sun 11:20 +0300]: > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: >> However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't >> usually audible, although I've had a few very noisy 5¼ drives. And of >> course SSDs are utterly silent. > > I wonder

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't > usually audible, although I've had a few very noisy 5¼ drives. And of > course SSDs are utterly silent. I wonder how ancient drives you are using? Have there even bee

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 23:44:01 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > As for the noise > of the heads, there was none, probably because the operating > system never saw the disk so never tried to read the disk. There is always head movement when a drive first spins up. Part of shutting a drive down is movin

Re: Reading an old HDD

> When I unplugged the transformer just now to store it, I > discovered that on the back it is labeled to output 12 volts > and 2.0 amps. That is 24 watts, which might not be enough to > spin up some hard drives. I'm not sure; it seems borderline. It should be OK and in any case it should be eas

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>> https://storedbits.com says a 7200 RPM hard drive would normally consume >> 20-25W for 5-10 seconds during startup. It will then idle at around >> 6-8 watts. The average power consumption during read/write tasks >> will be around 8-12 watts, and the maximum can go up to 16 watts. >> >> I would

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* Will Mengarini [24-10/03=Thu 19:57 -0700]: > I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an > HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that > connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the > stable Debian doesn't see the new disk tha

Re: Reading an old HDD

For 3,5" HDD you need an usb-case with extra power. The standard usb power is not enough for this needed power. Most usp ports deliver about 50-70mA at 5V, so you must use a case with an external power supply. This is also needed for eSATA ports. Hans > > The smallest 3.5" HDD (3 TB) for wh

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 12:51 +0700]: > On 05/10/2024 11:15, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: >> >>> Try to connect the enclosure without the disk. It may appear >>> in lsusb output and may generate some journalctl logs. >> >> That's a clever idea, but it wil

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On 05/10/2024 11:15, Will Mengarini wrote: * Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: Try to connect the enclosure without the disk. It may appear in lsusb output and may generate some journalctl logs. That's a clever idea, but it will be a while before I can carefully unscrew the disk from t

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Will Mengarini [24-10/04=Fri 20:10 -0700]: > * Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 15:56 +1300]: >> On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? >>> Nothing changes. - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the

Re: Reading an old HDD

* basti [24-10/04=Fri 13:54 +0200]: > Am 04.10.24 um 04:57 schrieb Will Mengarini: >> I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an >> HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that >> connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the >>

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Hans [24-10/04=Fri 10:24 +0200]: > Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 04:57:19 CEST schrieb Will Mengarini: >> I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an >> HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that >> connects to the new machine by USB and powered every

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: > On 04/10/2024 14:19, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: >>> - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? >> >> No output when I unplug it and replug it. > > Do you start "journalctl -f" as r

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On 04/10/2024 14:19, Will Mengarini wrote: * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? No output when I unplug it and replug it. Do you start "journalctl -f" as root (e.g. sudo)? It is rather strange that nothing is

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* Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 16:02 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 20:43, Will Mengarini wrote: >> Now I realize that there may be an error LED blinking on the HDD. That may not have been an error LED; it's an LED on the PCB of the enclosure, and it may be intended to blink red whenever the disk is being

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* Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 15:56 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: >>> - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? >> Nothing changes. >>> - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? >> No output when I unplug it and re

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 20:43, Will Mengarini wrote: Now I realize that there may be an error LED blinking on the HDD. What is the model of the HDD? What is its documented peak power draw? Kind regards, -- Ash Joubert (they/them) Director / Game Developer Transient Software Limited

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? Nothing changes. - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? No output when I unplug it and replug it. The HDD may not be able to draw enough power

Re: Reading an old HDD

Am 04.10.24 um 04:57 schrieb Will Mengarini: I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the stable Debian doesn't see the new disk that is

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 00:19:31 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: > > On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: > >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an > >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But > >> the new Debian shows nothing new in `d

Re: Reading an old HDD

Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 04:57:19 CEST schrieb Will Mengarini: > I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an > HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that > connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the > stable Debian doesn't

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* David Wright [24-10/03=Thu 22:44 -0500]: > On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 20:26:55 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. [...] > > Take a look at /dev/disk/... where the names of the next level > of directories are s

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But >> the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is >> there some other command I should use to probe for >> wheth

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 10/3/24 22:57, Will Mengarini wrote: I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the stable Debian doesn't see the new disk that is connect

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 20:26:55 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an > ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But > the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is > there some other command I should use to probe for > whether Debian knows there's a HDD c

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is there some other command I should use to probe for whether Debian knows there's a HDD connected by USB? "df" wil

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The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is there some other command I should use to probe for whether Debian knows there's a HDD connected by USB? * victoria crenshaw [24-10/03=Thu 22:00 -0500]: > whi

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which file system is the old hdd formated in ntfs? if so run in terminal sudo apt install ntfs-3g or use gparted to see the file system of the hdd sudo apt install gparted On Thu, 2024-10-03 at 19:57 -0700, Will Mengarini wrote: > e new disk that is connected by USB.  Is > there

Reading an old HDD

I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the stable Debian doesn't see the new disk that is connected by USB. Is there some driver or packag