Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20100210084608.gu14...@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote: >On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> I don't know anything about these scripts. When do they run? Udev is a daemon, started fairly early in the boot process. It communicates with the kernel. It evaluates the rules

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46:08AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: > > > On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] > > I don't know anything about these scripts. When do they run? And

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,09.Feb.10, 23:06:08, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: > > On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't > >> have > >> happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/9/2010 3:37 AM: > On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't have >> happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding? > > No, I'm saying that under normal circumstances it should

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 20:07:36, Frank Miles wrote: > I won't belabor this. > > Putting in a different NIC fixed things. No fuss, though interesting that it > (presumably udev) wanted to call it eth2. I can live with that. Of course it did, eth0 and eth1 were already taken ;) Regards, Andrei -- Of

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 16:33:39, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > So, are you saying it didn't happen? Couldn't have happened? Shouldn't have > happened? I'm imagining things? Are you kidding? No, I'm saying that under normal circumstances it should work. > It broke. I fixed it by manually editing the p

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Frank Miles
I won't belabor this. Putting in a different NIC fixed things. No fuss, though interesting that it (presumably udev) wanted to call it eth2. I can live with that. Thanks again, everyone! -Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 2/8/2010 2:29 PM: > On Mon,08.Feb.10, 01:15:43, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>> Perhaps the kernel brings eth1 into existence by first establishing it as >>> eth0, then renaming it to eth1; then bringing the "real" eth0 into >>> existence. >> >> The above can happen when yo

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,08.Feb.10, 01:15:43, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Perhaps the kernel brings eth1 into existence by first establishing it as > > eth0, then renaming it to eth1; then bringing the "real" eth0 into > > existence. > > The above can happen when you add NICs to the system. I hate UDEV for this, >

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Miles put forth on 2/8/2010 10:32 AM: > Thanks so much to Stan, Tom H, and Cameleon! > > It seems that the consensus is that it's a NIC problem. In case > it wasn't previously clear, the RealTek 8169 is part of the Gigabyte > motherboard. > > I thought that I'd escaped non-free-firmware he

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-08 Thread Frank Miles
Thanks so much to Stan, Tom H, and Cameleon! It seems that the consensus is that it's a NIC problem. In case it wasn't previously clear, the RealTek 8169 is part of the Gigabyte motherboard. I thought that I'd escaped non-free-firmware hell by getting a MB with the graphics based on an Intel ch

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Hi Frank, sorry you're going through such pains here. Did the same myself not long ago. Frank Miles put forth on 2/7/2010 12:41 PM: > Feb 7 04:51:22 puffin kernel: [6.156559] r8169 Gigabit Ethernet > driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded > Feb 7 04:51:22 puffin kernel: [6.156573] r8169 :02:00.0

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
... ok, started... [snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to "eth1", it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of "dmesg | grep eth"? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000,xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, XID 083000c0 IRQ 32

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
>> [    6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000,xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, >> XID 083000c0 IRQ 32 >> [    6.384830] eth1: unable to apply firmware patch >> [    7.190453] udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth0 >> [    7.229390] udev: renamed network interface eth0_rename to eth1 >> [  

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:13 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: > [snip] > >>I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to "eth1", >>it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? >> >>What is the output of "dmesg | grep eth"? > > [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9000

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
> I made a minor effort earlier to suppress the IPv6 modules, but [a] didn't > succeed Add ipv6.disable=1 to the grub kernel/linux line to disable ipv6 (without recompiling the kernel) but it cannot be the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:36:13 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: > [snip] > >>I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to "eth1", >>it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? >> >>What is the output of "dmesg | grep eth"? > > [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9000

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Tom H
> That file includes: > # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", > KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" > # PCI device 0x10b7:0x9050 (3c59x) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
[snip] I fail to see what it's doing, but I cannot see any reference to "eth1", it's like only one interace is being recognized :-? What is the output of "dmesg | grep eth"? [6.317161] eth1: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc9c4e000, xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, XID 083000c0 IRQ 32 [6.384830] eth1

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:41:46 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: > Thanks, Camaleon (sorry - don't know how to generate the proper > characters). Still "us-ascii"? ;-) No problem. > That file includes: > > # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{addres

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Miles
Thanks, Camaleon (sorry - don't know how to generate the proper characters). That file includes: # PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" # PCI device

Re: eth0 - eth1 confusion vs. local network

2010-02-07 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:07:03 -0800, Frank Miles wrote: (...) > There is one troubling line in the logs from boot: > udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 > Doing an "ifdown eth1" does not fix the eth0 problem. Mmm... check your "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules", there sho

RE: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-15 Thread Shaddy.Baddah
> Shaddy just rejoiced over my response (see ``purity -p > nerd|grep ^100'') ;-), and felt an irresistible compulsion to rephrase > it. Besides, s/he has other problems like replying both to me and the > list, and [1]TOFU, besides being rude. > > [1] http://www.vranx.de/mail/tofu.html > I since

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-13 Thread Jan Minar
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 08:23:22PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Shaddy.Baddah wrote: > > Finally! Thank you Jan. Some of the suggestions are pretty convenient, like > > dmesg, which should give you the vendor details, but that would break down > > if they are

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Nano Nano
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:46:58AM +0800, Shaddy.Baddah wrote: > Finally! Thank you Jan. Some of the suggestions are pretty convenient, like > dmesg, which should give you the vendor details, but that would break down > if they are the same vendor. And considering this is the absolute correct > way

RE: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Shaddy.Baddah
al Message- From: Jan Minar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:42 AM To: Debian Users List Subject: Re: eth0/eth1 which one? On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 >

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Jan Minar
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > and which one is eth1 ? Quite a bunch of interesting replies :-) Here is mine: Each and every ethernet card has its own unique MAC number, this number usually i

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread James Tappin
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:02:42 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > > and which one is eth1 ? > >

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > and which one is eth1 ? If you have DHCP on your segment, then you can plug one in and see which iface gets the IP.

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Hermanowski
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > and which one is eth1 ? If the cards use different modules, `dmesg' should give you some information on which card is is served by which driver. But if the cards

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Hamilton Coutinho
On 02/12/2004 04:40 PM, Lars Jensen wrote: I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 and which one is eth1 ? dmesg can give you a hint: $ dmesg | grep 'eth[01]' -- Hamilton Coutinho | Feanor - license issues are [EMAIL PROTECTED] | important. If we do

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Brendan Strejcek
Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > and which one is eth1 ? Unplug one and run ifconfig -a. The one with "no carrier" is the one you unplugged. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: eth0/eth1 which one?

2004-02-12 Thread Nano Nano
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 10:40:11AM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > I have two network cards on my machine How do I tell which one is eth0 > and which one is eth1 ? > > Thanks, > Lars. ping something and look at the link lights -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:25:43PM -0500, Sean Morgan wrote: > Also, I can't for the life of me see why a cable company would lock on to > a MAC address. RCN in the northeast US does exactly this. Personally I was happy (when I was in charge of such things) to instruct the modem to recognise one

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-23 Thread Casper Gielen
On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:25:43PM -0500, Sean Morgan wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:44:19 -0500 > > Also, I can't for the life of me see why a cable company would lock on to > a MAC address. Roadrunner doesn't do this, and it would be really > incompetent for a cable company to authenticate on

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-22 Thread Brian Nelson
Sean Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, I can't for the life of me see why a cable company would lock on to > a MAC address. Roadrunner doesn't do this, and it would be really Roadrunner in Eastern Mass. does do this. They're so kind as to even put the mac address as the hostname, like

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-22 Thread Sean Morgan
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:44:19 -0500 dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:13:53AM +0100, Eric Smith wrote: > | According to dman on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:14:49PM -0500: > | > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Eric Smith wrote: > | > | Its been quite a saga - I have

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-21 Thread dman
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:13:53AM +0100, Eric Smith wrote: | According to dman on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:14:49PM -0500: | > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:10:19PM +0100, Eric Smith wrote: | > | Its been quite a saga - I have lost my (limited) hacking instinct. | > | Having failed to get ipmasq to wor

Re: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-21 Thread Eric Smith
According to Kelley, Tim (CBS-New Orleans) on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:26:16AM -0500: > dhcpcd can pass whatever Mac address you want to a dhcp server ... just what I wanted to hear (but was afraid to ask). I was wondering about that and tried it once and failed - now will try again. Though the

RE: eth0 <-> eth1

2001-11-21 Thread Kelley, Tim \(CBS-New Orleans\)
dhcpcd can pass whatever Mac address you want to a dhcp server ... > -Original Message- > From: Eric Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 1:14 AM > To: Debian User > Subject: eth0 <-> eth1 > > According to dman on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:14:49PM -0500: