Re: make "apt-get install $PKG" work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 03:00:59 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I'm wondering if "apt-get install" could be set up to compile from > source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install > the binary? apt-get, to my best knowledge, can not be used for this. There's tool called a

make "apt-get install $PKG" work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I've never used gentoo sorry. I'm wondering if "apt-get install" could be set up to compile from source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install the binary? Due to admining a number of machines for a small non profit human rights association (and a fe

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Sven Hartge
until newly available updates have been available for at >>> least a few days before installing them, to avoid nasty surprises. >> apt-get -s dist-upgrade > Um... it looks like this actually performs the update? > I want to see what updates would be applied, but NOT apply

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Pol Hallen
#!/bin/sh # At least once a day update the index package lists and download # pending upgrades. { apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y } 2>&1 | mailx -s "apt download output" root exit 0 cool! thanks Pol

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
have been available for at least a few days before installing them, to avoid nasty surprises. apt-get -s dist-upgrade Um... it looks like this actually performs the update? I want to see what updates would be applied, but NOT apply them yet. That is what the --pretend flag in gentoo does

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-14 Thread Tanstaafl
before installing them, to avoid nasty surprises. apt-get -s dist-upgrade Um... it looks like this actually performs the update? I want to see what updates would be applied, but NOT apply them yet. That is what the --pretend flag in gentoo does (actually the short version is 'emerge -

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-07 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-01-05 01:43, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: >>> The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to >>> installed. >> >> i.e., if you

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/6/14, Bob Proulx wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> # The primary network interface ... >> >> network ###.###.###.### >> >> broadcast ###.###.###.### >> > >> > Since you already fixed your issue I'll just comment on your interfaces >> > file.

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 04:29:59PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && > apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y > > > > Some fun details that may spark some ideas... Wow!

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Tanstaafl wrote: > >> # The primary network interface > >> #allow-hotplug eth0 > >> auto eth0 > >> iface eth0 inet static > >> address ###.###.###.### > >> gateway ###.###.###.### > >> netmask 255.255.255.0 > >> network ###.###.###.### > >> broadca

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 05 ian 14, 23:47:32, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > 3. it's safe to get rid of 'network' and 'broadcast', they are > > calculated from address and netmask ;) > > Actually not. Some home adsl modems and routers these days default to > 172.XX.. and 10. subnets, and Debian (Linux kernel?) choos

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/5/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 03 ian 14, 07:29:52, Tanstaafl wrote: >> # The primary network interface >> #allow-hotplug eth0 >> auto eth0 >> iface eth0 inet static >> address ###.###.###.### >> gateway ###.###.###.### >> netmask 255.255.255.0 >> network ###.###.###.### >> broadcast ##

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 03 ian 14, 07:29:52, Tanstaafl wrote: > > # The primary network interface > #allow-hotplug eth0 > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet static > address ###.###.###.### > gateway ###.###.###.### > netmask 255.255.255.0 > network ###.###.###.### > broadcast ###.###.###.### Since you already fixed you

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. > > i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you > what it is going to install before doing it

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 09:50:59AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > > available on the web at

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 17:21:40 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > > > > You might want to look into the debian-reference package. It is also > > available on the web at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/. > > It looks

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-04 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-01-03 14:44 keltezéssel, Tanstaafl írta: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one > > eix packagename > shows all available versions o

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
John Hasler wrote: > Sven Hartge writes: >> Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely >> get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security >> updates and major bug fixes via point releases about every two >> months: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleas

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > ... > > Is there a decent manual descr

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: > > eix packagename > > shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they > > reside in (stable, testing, etc) > >apt-cache Typo: apt-cache show > and >apt-cache policy > > > emerge --pretend -vuDN world > > results in a list of all avai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote: > The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed. i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you what it is going to install before doing it anyway. You need the -s for one package, because if you have only a

Re: Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/3/14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) > > There's a Debian BSD port too: > https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD > For servers likely Debian stable is the best way to go, but I don't have > exper

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: >> emerge --pretend -vuDN world Welcome to another former gentoo hand. If you have X running: I'm pretty sure, though have never used it, that there is a little tool on you desktop menus somewhere. With a name like `Software updates', p

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Carl Johnson
Tanstaafl writes: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. ... > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this? You might want to look into the debian-reference packa

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:44:49AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. > What I&

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. eix-sync to synchronizes the local repo with the online one Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Sven Hartge writes: > Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get > any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates > and major bug fixes via point releases about every two months: > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases Don't wai

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. > > eix-sync > to synchronizes the local repo with the online one apt-get update > eix packagename >

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Tanstaafl wrote: > In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are > available, so a process like: Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates and major bug fix

SOLVED: Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-03 8:43 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop them? I

New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in Debian that I do routinely in gentoo. I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. What I'm looking for is the equivalent commands in debian to achieve the same things.

Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP > requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see > anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop > them? I know I could probably uninstall

Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) There's a Debian BSD port too: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD And Arch Linux provides a FreeBSD port like approach: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System I made bad

New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

2014-01-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, First posting to the list. I'm a long time Gentoo user, but I'm playing with my first Debian system since many years ago. I've been considering a wholesale change to another distro (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders) for some time now due to some of th

Re: Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-21 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 20 May 2007, at 10:04, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.20.0038 +0200]: I am not sure if the installer will automatically recognize an existing RAID and set it up for you while preserving the data. If it does not, you can jump over to a

Re: Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.05.20.0038 +0200]: > I am not sure if the installer will automatically recognize an existing > RAID and set it up for you while preserving the data. If it does not, > you can jump over to another VT, manually start the array and then tell >

Re: Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:53:55PM +0100, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not subscribed, so can any responses be CC'd directly to me? But, > down to the point: I have a Gentoo 'box running their modified 2.6.17 > kernel, which has /home as a software

Moving Software RAID5 from Gentoo

2007-05-19 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
Hi, I'm not subscribed, so can any responses be CC'd directly to me? But, down to the point: I have a Gentoo 'box running their modified 2.6.17 kernel, which has /home as a software RAID5. If I'm to move over to Etch, what would be the best way to move over while keepin

Re: Installing from source a la Gentoo / BSD

2006-09-14 Thread Michelle Konzack
o. IF your sources can be compiled easyly with "./configure" and "make" then it is realy easy to build YOUR OWN Debian packages of YOUR software. The most important thing is: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot > I discarded Gentoo for being so unstable. ;-)

Re: Installing from source a la Gentoo / BSD

2006-09-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 10:23:44AM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > * Rickardo Branco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060911 08:34]: > > I'm a FreeBSD/NetBSD user wanting to run Linux using > > the same sources that I'm using on these two systems. > &g

Re: Installing from source a la Gentoo / BSD

2006-09-11 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Rickardo Branco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060911 08:34]: > I'm a FreeBSD/NetBSD user wanting to run Linux using > the same sources that I'm using on these two systems. > I discarded Gentoo for being so unstable. > > Is it possible to use the tarballs I have for

Installing from source a la Gentoo / BSD

2006-09-10 Thread Rickardo Branco
I'm a FreeBSD/NetBSD user wanting to run Linux using the same sources that I'm using on these two systems. I discarded Gentoo for being so unstable. Is it possible to use the tarballs I have for running Debian ? Thanks in advance anyone. ___

Re: iptables init script (like in Gentoo) ?

2006-02-02 Thread Ivan Neto
On 1/27/06, José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu 26 Jan 2006 20:45, Ivan Neto wrote:> In the new version of iptables Debian doesn't use the init script anymore.Did anything replaced ? Yes. Take a look at  /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz Regards,

Re: iptables init script (like in Gentoo) ?

2006-01-27 Thread José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández
On Thu 26 Jan 2006 20:45, Ivan Neto wrote: > In the new version of iptables Debian doesn't use the init script anymore. Did anything replaced ? -- José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández pgpi1fJJpgRzW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: iptables init script (like in Gentoo) ?

2006-01-26 Thread Ivan Neto
Hello, In the new version of iptables Debian doesn't use the init script anymore. Anyway, you can find the old init script in /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples . Just copy it to /etc/init.d . Hope it helps.On 1/26/06, José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,In

iptables init script (like in Gentoo) ?

2006-01-26 Thread José Pablo Ezequiel Fernández
Hello, In Gentoo, the iptables package installs a simple script in /etc/init.d/iptables that is capable of saving and restore a set of iptables using iptables-save and iptables-restore. Is there something like that on Debian ? I don't want a full featured firewall nor to write scripts m

Re: distcc problem - Gentoo client - Debian sarge server

2005-09-03 Thread Thomas Jollans
Tony wrote: Attempting to speed up my laptop Pentium II emerges. Set up distcc as specified in the Gentoo guide: Bear in mind that this is a _debian_ list. Now, back to gentoo. I personally speeded up my emerges by switching to debian and apt-get. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

distcc problem - Gentoo client - Debian sarge server

2005-09-03 Thread Tony
Hi all, Attempting to speed up my laptop Pentium II emerges. Set up distcc as specified in the Gentoo guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Installed distcc on the Debian (galaxy) machine and started the daemon. Kicked off the emerge, and got the following: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc

Re: [sid] installing gentoo

2005-07-14 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
Tomek Gruca wrote: > > "David Van Mosselbeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Try to install the gnome-destop-environment >> >> 'apt-get install gnome-destop-environment' >> > > I doesn't install too, requires (each 'wont be installed'): > gnomemeeting (>= 1.2

Translate inotify fix from Gentoo to Debian?

2005-05-09 Thread Stephen R Laniel
inotify doesn't seem to work with GNOME; with kernel 2.6.11, GNOME locks up my entire machine after only a few seconds if I move the mouse. If I don't move the mouse, a lockup takes longer, if it happens at all. If I use the kernel option 'noinotify', the lockup doesn't happen at all. All of this

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2004-12-09 Thread gentoo-dev+owner
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Re: bible-kjv_4.15 make & installation errors in gentoo linux

2004-08-16 Thread Pigeon
ions in the Makefile to get it to work. What do you change to > what? I have looked at the Makefile and am no wiser for the look. What are you trying to do? Install a source package from Debian on Gentoo? The make install error is because the make didn't work. The make probably did

bible-kjv_4.15 make & installation errors in gentoo linux

2004-08-16 Thread Ray Foster
Hi, The readme.linux instructions are (after unpacking) to make which gives these errors: /lib/libreadline.so: undefined reference to tgetnum, tgoto, tgetflag, BC, tputs, PC, tgetent, UP, tgetstr and it exits with error 1 and error2. When I "make install" I get three errors: cp cannot stat bible

Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-07 Thread Adam Funk
On Sunday 06 June 2004 14:00, charlie derr wrote: > Adam Funk wrote: >> I'm sure one could even find some stupid posts here (after an >> exhaustive search). >> >> > > > Doesn't even require an exhaustive search -- for instance > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00091.html (and

Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-06 Thread charlie derr
Adam Funk wrote: On Saturday 05 June 2004 13:20, Nicholas Lativy wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:33:46PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: ...and they're tied with AOL users. http://funroll-loops.org/ All that page does is quote a few stupid things that *some* Gentoo users have said. Considerin

Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-06 Thread richard lyons
gt; All that page does is quote a few stupid things that *some* > > Gentoo users have said. Considering the vast number of posts on > > the Gentoo Forums it's inevitable that some of them will be > > factually incorrect > > > > or simply ignorant. As Larry Wall said[1]:

Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-05 Thread Adam Funk
On Saturday 05 June 2004 13:20, Nicholas Lativy wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:33:46PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> ...and they're tied with AOL users. >> http://funroll-loops.org/ > > All that page does is quote a few stupid things that *some* Gentoo > use

Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-05 Thread Nicholas Lativy
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:33:46PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > ...and they're tied with AOL users. > http://funroll-loops.org/ All that page does is quote a few stupid things that *some* Gentoo users have said. Considering the vast number of posts on the Gentoo Forums it's inev

OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...

2004-06-03 Thread Paul Johnson
...and they're tied with AOL users. http://funroll-loops.org/ -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgpUlUb4EOH98.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about hardware

2004-03-06 Thread Juergen Stuber
TongKe Xue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Is there some way I can access the laptop HD (2.5" I think, > don't remember exact specs) ... I need is some hardware so > that I can mount the HD under linux, and I can take care of > the rest. (Perferably USB, I'm not familiar with

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-24 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:07:50 -0600, Kent West escreveu: >>>"lspci -v" shows the controller the same way as in Suse and the >>>others... >>> >> What does lspci or cat /proc/pci says about Ethernet controllers? >> > Perhaps I'm missing something, but the Axel already answered the first > part

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 03:28:22PM +0100, Axel Burwitz wrote: > my Dell onboard ethernet controller can't be configured in Debian Sarge but > runs smoothly in Suse, Fedora an Gentoo-Live and Knoppix... > > and I cannot find or get h

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-23 Thread Axel Burwitz
Hi Kent ! Thanks for help ! With a hint from another newsgroup, to use "e100" driver, I finally managed to set up network and internet connection (after some hurdles with DHCP..) !! Happy now ! I answer your questions below.. Regards and merry christmas Axel Kent West wrote: > Leandro Gu

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-23 Thread Axel Burwitz
>> >> I don't believe it: >> >> my Dell onboard ethernet controller can't be configured in Debian >> Sarge but runs smoothly in Suse, Fedora an Gentoo-Live and Knoppix... >> >> and I cannot find or get help in Usenet and via google ?? >> >&g

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Storey
proper configuration information. regards, Robert > Hi, > > I don't believe it: > > my Dell onboard ethernet controller can't be configured in Debian > Sarge but runs smoothly in Suse, Fedora an Gentoo-Live and Knoppix... > > and I cannot find or get help in Usenet

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Axel Burwitz
Hi Leandro, thanks for help. Meanwhile I got hint in a German newsgroup, to use "e100" driver, and with that one (after some hurles with DHCP) I managed to get network set up and internet connectio via router running !! Happy now ... Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: > Em Seg, 2003-

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Erik Steffl
Axel Burwitz wrote: Hi, I don't believe it: my Dell onboard ethernet controller can't be configured in Debian Sarge but runs smoothly in Suse, Fedora an Gentoo-Live and Knoppix... take a look at which driver they use and use the same driver in debian. erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Kent West
Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Em Seg, 2003-12-22 Ãs 12:28, Axel Burwitz escreveu: installed , for my first Debian try, Debian Sarge from the "LinuxUser" magazine's DVD. After some hurldles it worked but: did'nt configure any network card, (and following eth0 etc.) Which ker

Re: Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Seg, 2003-12-22 Ãs 12:28, Axel Burwitz escreveu: > and I cannot find or get help in Usenet and via google ?? That's why this list exists. > Come on, debian community: take that chalenge ! Cut short the crap, please. > installed , for my first Debian try, Debian Sarge from t

Challenge to the debian community: ethernet controller doesn't work in debian but in: SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo !!

2003-12-22 Thread Axel Burwitz
Hi, I don't believe it: my Dell onboard ethernet controller can't be configured in Debian Sarge but runs smoothly in Suse, Fedora an Gentoo-Live and Knoppix... and I cannot find or get help in Usenet and via google ?? Come on, debian community: take that chalenge ! installed , fo

Re: gpl - Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Tom wrote: > The second part is understandable but ultimately not defensible: there > really is no correlation between the cost of software and its value, so > you always end up in these stupid situation where you've spent $100,000 > for software and you're pulling 36-hour shifts to keep it runn

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-05 Thread Ken Gilmour
>> I suspect that all these attacks are not unrelated.  Someone is >> out to get us. I blame "crazy willy" Lets get him *biff* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gpl - Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-05 Thread Tom
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:18:00AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > and in my book, gpl licenses should be changed anyway ... now's a > good time .. :-0 to tighten its reins too There are two aspects to GPL: "just show me the source dumbass" and "how dare you charge me $50,000 for this shitty softwar

gpl - Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-05 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, David Palmer. wrote: > > Once is happenstance. > > Twice is coincidence. > > Three times is enemy action. > > > > I suspect that all these attacks are not unrelated. Someone is out to > > get us. > > I've been certain of this for a while. > It's not just the distributions

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-05 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, John Hasler wrote: > Flo writes: > > But even worse, about the Savannah crack > > Once is happenstance. > Twice is coincidence. > Three times is enemy action. > > I suspect that all these attacks are not unrelated. Someone is out to get > us. quick .. close the gates :-)

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:18:28AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > You watch, The GPL will be invalidated next. I agree with this (unfortunately). Has the ACLU ever expressed an opinion on Free software? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:15:50 -0600 John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Flo writes: > > But even worse, about the Savannah crack > > Once is happenstance. > Twice is coincidence. > Three times is enemy action. > > I suspect that all these attacks are not unrelated. Someone is out to > get u

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Flo writes: > But even worse, about the Savannah crack Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. I suspect that all these attacks are not unrelated. Someone is out to get us. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UN

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:02:34AM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:37AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > > > I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually. > > > > And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any a

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:37AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote: Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know). I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually. And since you haven't provided a refe

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:37AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know). > > I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually. > >

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Ken Gilmour
Replying to the message sent by ScruLoose on Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:42:37 -0500, received at 16:55:09 on 04/12/2003. ScruLoose wrote: >On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote: > >> Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know). > >I didn't k

Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote: > Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know). I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually. And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any actual information, I can'

Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know). I feel guilty about playing chicken little all week. Somebody asked if I was evil earlier; no, I just know karma. The universe does this to nice people when they're nice. Karma has an upside, later, after the bad stu

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:21:36 -0500 Rthoreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > If someone can show a nice chart showing the speed increase compared > to stability of Gentoo vs Debian, I would be more than happy to put > Gentoo on a box. gentoo itself doesn't search to

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Xavier Andrade
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Chris de Vidal wrote: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org > What you can do is add some sort of benchmarking of important packages (xfree, gnome, kde, etc.) so you or your users can get the best compilation flags for each processor/system. That way each package compilat

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Klaus Imgrund
s.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1 > Be that as it might be - obviously those guys didn't even know that gentoo applies a patch to xfree with a newer driver for sis from http://www.winischhofer.net when it ge

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Rthoreau
seems like this site and review had Debian on top, Debian was only compiled with I386. Please excuse the long url: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1 Also Isn't Gentoo starting to introduce binari

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Chris de Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org are you going to implement a USE flag equivalent? (note: I don't like USE a lot) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT), Chris de Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org .."* This website sucks." Toss it in http://validator.w3.org/ ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with

DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Chris de Vidal
Volunteers needed! http://debtoo.org = /dev/idal "GNU/Linux is free freedom" --Me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-26 Thread Chris de Vidal
Volunteers needed! http://debtoo.org = /dev/idal "GNU/Linux is free freedom" --Me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-30 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:58:37AM +0800, csj wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:02:41 +1100, > Russell wrote: > > > > Pigeon wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:19:20 +1100, bob parker > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Docs are very much a personal-preference item, but I must say

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-30 Thread Russell
csj wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:02:41 +1100, Russell wrote: Pigeon wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:19:20 +1100, bob parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Same applies to the HOWTOs, though otherwise I quite like them. Dead trees, unfortunately, have it, at least until it's easy to get

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-29 Thread csj
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:02:41 +1100, Russell wrote: > > Pigeon wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:19:20 +1100, bob parker > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Docs are very much a personal-preference item, but I must say > > I find the info pages awkward. Jumping about between nodes in > > a

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-27 Thread Russell
Pigeon wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:19:20 +1100, bob parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:39, Benedict Verheyen wrote: Hi, For instance, a lot of man pages for me don't really help me. They give me a clue yes, but do not provide all the help i need. I'm using Woody and

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-27 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "bob parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter) > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:39, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > Hi,

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-27 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:19:20 +1100, bob parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:39, Benedict Verheyen wrote: >> Hi, >> For instance, a lot of man pages for me don't really >> help me. They give me a clue yes, but do not provide >> all the help i need. >> >I'm using Woody and the

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-27 Thread bob parker
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:39, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Hi, > For instance, a lot of man pages for me don't really > help me. They give me a clue yes, but do not provide > all the help i need. > I'm using Woody and there seems to be an info page for most commands which generally is more helpful than

Re: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter)

2002-11-26 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:39 AM Subject: [OT] Debian vs Gentoo (discussed in newsletter) > Hi, > > i just saw the topic raised in the newslet

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