berenger wrote:
> Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion
> and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that
> they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
It is. The religious "right" has been trying to force compulsory
christianity on
On 2013-10-26, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_en_Alsace-Moselle
>
> Is that article available in English? My high school French of
> >50 years ago is only good enough for the article to tease me.
Apparently, that article is not available in English.
Look her
In Germany many church hospitals don't help victims of brutal rape. They
are not allowed not to help them and all the times this happened they
claimed that it was a misunderstanding, but the misunderstanding happens
again and again.
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On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
> > > Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >
> > >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
> > >> and ou
On 10/26/2013 5:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
> >> and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
> >> sound
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state".
The net result is the ch
Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and
government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be
honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
Well, even in France the waters
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit :
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and
out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
sound byte
title tends to be "separation of church and state".
Really? I thought t
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
>
>
> Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and
> government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be
> honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
>
Well, even in France the waters may
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
[SNIP]
The same software likely is available for Debian too, but I
don't know if there are meta packages available too,
I've been wanting to understand meta-packages for a personal
project. Gives me one more assignment. If retirement isn't for
learning and expanding ho
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
> and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
> sound byte title tends to be "separation of church and state".
>
> The net result is the church receives
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit :
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and
out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound
byte
title tends to be "separation of church and state".
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and tha
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X term
Le 26.10.2013 06:44, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If
they can, then they are not only WM.
Plus, tiling window managers usually does not have any "desktop" and
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
> > > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
> > > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals u
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
> > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
> > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
> > That might be easier to admin.
>
> And
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> >Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE &/or WM can handle that.
>
> Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;)
Sorry, you are!
> Any
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 06:14:20PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
> >>You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
> >>similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
> >
> >Windows 98, XP e
On 10/25/13, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler
>>> wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
>
> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> suitable than a cu
On 2013-10-25, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> Reading between the lines on that make me wonder how well the
> things would run on the to be donated hardware. It also says
> nothing about hardware required for the server.
>
Here you got hardware requirements:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Docume
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> > Richard Owlett writes:
>> >>
>> >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
>> >> suitable than a custom insta
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of installation.
pro Ub
Luis, thank you for sharing this. Perhaps somebody can add additional
related information.
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu
[2] http://www.skolelinux.org
[3] http://www.edubuntu.org/about
http://www.skolelinux.org/images/stories/in_use/oslo/oslo6-lab_jpg_medium.jpg
When I saw this photo I
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:12:33AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Richard Owlett writes:
> > >>
> > >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> > >> suitable than a
Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of installation.
"Ease of installation" comes at a cost. You get a system
opt
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
That might be easier to admin.
And
Hi,
On 10/24/2013 09:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of
> a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
> "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated
> hardware. Up to now the machines came w
Andre Majorel wrote:
On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged
school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
alike.
That's what I already pointed out in
Le 25.10.2013 11:38, Curt a écrit :
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even
adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and
old
alike.
nowadays are used to their smart phone OSes and not Win 98 or XP
On 2013-10-25, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the
> ones doing the installing…
What isn't a consideration?
And don't call me Shirley.
There's bottom posts and top posts and interleaved posts and orphaned
posts in search of a parent
Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE &/or WM can handle that.
Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;)
Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If they
can, then they are not only WM.
Plus, ti
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
>
> kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
> alike.
That's what I already pointed out in a previous
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
> > Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
> > using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
> > That might be easier to admin.
>
> And you do
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
alike.
> nowadays are used to their smart phone OSes and not Win 98 or XP and
> likely new Windows PCs provide a
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
> Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
> using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
> That might be easier to admin.
And you donate the needed infrastructure for that?
Keep the original post in
On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
> children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
> education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged
> school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines
> came
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:54 +, Curt wrote:
> On 2013-10-24, Doug wrote:
> >>
> > You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
> > similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
>
> I think on "obsolete" (possibly memory/ram restricted) hardware that
>
That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the
ones doing the installing…
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On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> > Richard Owlett writes:
> >>
> >> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> >> suitable than a custom install of Debian
> >
> > No.
>
> Yes, ease of installation.
pro
On 2013-10-24, Doug wrote:
>>
> You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
> similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
I think on "obsolete" (possibly memory/ram restricted) hardware that
might be ill-advised.
Anyway the desktop gui paradigm is ubi
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> Richard Owlett writes:
>>
>> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
>> suitable than a custom install of Debian
>
> No.
Yes, ease of installation.
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On 10/24/2013 06:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
>> You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
>> similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
>
> Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
> Xfce i
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children
of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
"title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated
hardwa
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:14 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> What will children see on screen - hopefully no more than 5/6 icons.
Good point, full ACK :).
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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
Xfce is similar too and it might be bett
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
> You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
> similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
Xfce is similar too and it might be better for old PCs.
At l
On 10/24/2013 04:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
> children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
> education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged
> school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came
>
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> > > suitable than a custom install of Debian - espec
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> > suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is
> > a choice of kernels?
>
> Debian can be
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is
> a choice of kernels?
Debian can be used with older CPUs, than *buntus can.
"All i486 and later proces
Richard Owlett writes:
> Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
> suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children
> of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
> "title 1 - severely underprivileged school"}. We run on donated
> hardware. Up to now the ma
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a "title 1 - severely underprivileged
school"}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came
with misc versions of MS Windows. A local company will d
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