Re: bug in etch: "iceweasel -safe-mode" segfaults. disabling pango corrects this.

2007-02-04 Thread Noah Dain
On 2/4/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noah Dain wrote: > When I go to http://syscp-forum.org/ and scroll down the page, > iceweasel segfaults. It does so even with a fresh ~/.mozilla and > running with "-safe-mode" option. The crash happens immediately and > is 100% reproducible.

re-partition my hard disk

2007-02-04 Thread rocky
Hey all, On my PC I have 2 hard disks. The primary one has Windows XP installed. Afterwards, I decide to learn Linux. So I got another Hard disk and installed Debian stable successfully on it. Now, I'm thinking of make my PC serve as the file back up server for my home office. I will install back

Etch hangs on boot after printer installation

2007-02-04 Thread Fab
I just installed the Linux driver for my printer a Samsung ML-1710, printer worked fine but now the system hangs on boot, I have attached a screenshot of where the boot stalls. I am not sure what to make of it, should I do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: font problems

2007-02-04 Thread Mike Polyakov
Hi All, I've had this problem for a while and it would be nice to resolve it once and for all. I am trying to install ProggyClean pcf font from http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download. I've read a couple of tutorials on how to do this, but still the font does not show up in the font se

Re: Litter in the logs when DVD seen by KsCD

2007-02-04 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:38:47 + Nick Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd figured out (eventually) that the extreme amount of useless messages > being > logged to various system logfiles (syslog, messages, etc.) : > > Jan 12 00:08:00 localhost kernel: hdc: packet command error: error=0x50

Re: Iceweasel not displaying Yahoo mail images

2007-02-04 Thread Edward C. Jones
I Googled on "iceweasel user-agent string". I followed a suggestion at "http://www.debianhelp.org/node/3595": go to the url about:config and change general/useragent.extra.firefox to "Firefox/2.0". My problem did not go away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:23:19PM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:07:32PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > > This way you would really save time and could even keep your actual > > software selection without backing up /etc. > > Oops, of course it has to be "... without

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:56:26PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:54:18PM EST, Stephen wrote: [ ...] > > That didn't produce anything. > > I meant :colorscheme + .. not :colorscheme + Yup that's what I did. > But that could very well be the case .. I don't h

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:38:55PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > Curious, how cold does it get, and what country are you in? > I'm in Canada (right now, barely) in Kingston Ontario across the river from the US. Right now at 21:55 EST it is -16C supposed to be heading for -28C, windchill -41.

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:54:18PM EST, Stephen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:42:28PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > > [ ...] > > > In vim, you could try: > > > > :colorscheme > > That didn't produce anything. I meant :colorscheme + .. not :colorscheme + But that could very wel

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:35:38PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Perhaps. But depends on where you live and how often you experience power > > outages. I live in the Northeast of the US, and we have power outages > > frequently, lasting anywhere from 30 min to 48 hrs. So having a backup > >

RE: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Julian De Marchi
Curious, how cold does it get, and what country are you in? -Original Message- From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 12:36 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What UPS to buy -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 20:23, K

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:49:17PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'm currently using Debian Etch (Testing) on my notebook, and it is > fairly stable in a good sense of the word (Those 100+ release critical > bugs really aren't bugs that affect me, so my system is perfectly stable > to my knowle

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 20:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:11:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote.. > >>> Some of APC's UPS units allow you to set the voltage sensitivity via dip >>> switches, some of the units allow you to set it via software,

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:59:33PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:22:36PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > >>Well after changing all of the lines in my sources.list from etch to > >>testing, I'm getting an error. > >> >> > >>/My sources

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Jan C. Nordholz wrote: Hi, deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib/ Your first line points to testing but the third line (security) still points to etch. Oh wow, I didn't notice that. Well

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:11:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote.. > > Some of APC's UPS units allow you to set the voltage sensitivity via dip > > switches, some of the units allow you to set it via software, and some > > don't let you adjust the sensitivity. So if you plan to back up your > > b

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
Hi, > >>deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib > >>deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates testing contrib/ > > > >Your first line points to testing but the third line (security) still > >points to etch. > > > Oh wow, I didn't notice that. Well I removed the etch and

Re: What UPS to buy: a MGE Evolution 850 or an APC Smart-UPS 750?

2007-02-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 15:15, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:49:47PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/04/07 07:59, Colin wrote: J.A. de Vries wrote: > Hi, > > Due to power outages at my home I

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 18:44, Kevin Coyner wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:06:20PM -0700, Dave Thayer wrote.. [snip] > One other consideration when buying a UPS ... if you plan to back up your > battery powered UPS with a gas, propane or natural gas power

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:22:36PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Well after changing all of the lines in my sources.list from etch to testing, I'm getting an error. /[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get update Password: Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:42:28PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: [ ...] > In vim, you could try: > > :colorscheme That didn't produce anything. I'm been playing around with this on my own a bit. When I ':syntax enable' I'm returned; Error detected while processing /usr/

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:22:36PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Well after changing all of the lines in my sources.list from etch to > testing, I'm getting an error. > > /[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get update > Password: > Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg [378B] > Get:2 http:/

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:10:07PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:51, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:28:19PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > > For the interested, A summary of why there is no newbie list can be found > > > at > > >

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 20:01, Michael Pobega wrote: > > The reason I ask, though, is because I've read in multiple places > (Including these mailing lists) that when Etch goes stable your install > will "break" if you have testing instead of etch. Is this true, or is it > just speculation? Af

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
It won't break. However, with Etch frozen, testing hasn't been getting an infusion of stuff from Sid that is otherwise ready for testing. Once Etch is stable, AIUI, testing (Lenny) will start to receive the backlog from Sid. So there will be burst of activity, if you will, just after Etch goe

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:15:20PM EST, Dave Thayer wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:10:46PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > I think that on Debian, anything under /usr and /var (not /usr/local or > > /var/local) should be considered to belong to apt. > > I got burned once not backing up

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:01:29PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > >On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:34, Michael Pobega wrote: > The reason I ask, though, is because I've read in multiple places > (Including these mailing lists) that when Etch goes stable your install

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:46:39PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > David Jardine wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >[...] > >>The Dreyfus Model of Sill Acquisition [1], describes skills acquisition > >>as passing through five levels: novice, advanced b

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:51, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:28:19PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > For the interested, A summary of why there is no newbie list can be found > > at > > > > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html > > > > under

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 01:39:53AM +0100, David Jardine wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > [...] > > The Dreyfus Model of Sill Acquisition [1], describes skills acquisition > > as passing through five levels: novice, advanced beginner, competent, > >

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:34, Michael Pobega wrote: I would like to continue using testing without having to reinstall Debian upon every release (As I've had to do with Ubuntu). Should I change my //etc/apt/sources.list/ file to say /testing /instead of /etch/,

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:44:30PM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:06:20PM -0700, Dave Thayer wrote.. > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:54:30PM +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > > > > One other consideration when buying a UPS ... if you plan to back up your > battery powered

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 18:34, Michael Pobega wrote: > > I would like to continue using testing without having to reinstall > Debian upon every release (As I've had to do with Ubuntu). Should I > change my //etc/apt/sources.list/ file to say /testing /instead of > /etch/, or should I change it

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:20:25PM EST, Stephen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:12:38PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > > > Other things the OP could check: > > OK I'm trying the following on a *.php file. > > > :set compatible? > > nocompatible looks ok -- vim has a "bare vi" mode

Re: bug in etch: "iceweasel -safe-mode" segfaults. disabling pango corrects this.

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Noah Dain wrote: When I go to http://syscp-forum.org/ and scroll down the page, iceweasel segfaults. It does so even with a fresh ~/.mozilla and running with "-safe-mode" option. The crash happens immediately and is 100% reproducible. Shouldn't this be sent to the bug report mailing list rather

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
David Jardine wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] The Dreyfus Model of Sill Acquisition [1], describes skills acquisition as passing through five levels: novice, advanced beginner, competent, proficient, and expert. [...]

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:06:20PM -0700, Dave Thayer wrote.. > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:54:30PM +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > > > > I agree with the advice not to skimp on the UPS. However in my case the > > device is only needed because the "aardlekschakelaar" (in English earth > > leaka

bug in etch: "iceweasel -safe-mode" segfaults. disabling pango corrects this.

2007-02-04 Thread Noah Dain
When I go to http://syscp-forum.org/ and scroll down the page, iceweasel segfaults. It does so even with a fresh ~/.mozilla and running with "-safe-mode" option. The crash happens immediately and is 100% reproducible. However, if I use env variable "MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1", iceweasel runs as expec

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] > The Dreyfus Model of Sill Acquisition [1], describes skills acquisition > as passing through five levels: novice, advanced beginner, competent, > proficient, and expert. [...] >

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Dave Thayer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:10:46PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I think that on Debian, anything under /usr and /var (not /usr/local or > /var/local) should be considered to belong to apt. I got burned once not backing up /var/spool and losing my user crontabs. You might get some grief loos

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Dave Thayer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:54:30PM +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > > I agree with the advice not to skimp on the UPS. However in my case the > device is only needed because the "aardlekschakelaar" (in English earth > leakage cicruit breaker I believe) cuts the electricity. Not because the It's GFCI

Re: XML editor wanted!

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
s. keeling wrote: Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:10:06 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: On 2/1/07, Johannes Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am crawling through the web on a search for a proper XML editor, that makes What are you looking for?

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070204 17:34]: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > >I currently am well pleased with Powerware units, which are used in > >the broadcast industry. Powerware advertises advanced battery > >management circuitry which is said to increase battery life by a > >substantia

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:54 +, J.A. de Vries wrote: > On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > > But how is their Linux support? > > I would buy Tripp-Lite because it is readily available here in Mexico, > > but, again, how is the Linux support? > > Hi all, > > Thanks f

Re: X.org mouse broke on dist-upgrade, solved ?

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:47:56PM -0800, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] > A colleague did a dist-upgrade, sarge to etch, and everything > still worked except the X Window System. dpkg-reconfigure > left him with "No screens found" X unusable.

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:50:23PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2007 16:38, Ken Heard wrote: > > If the documentation editors are to > > be volunteers, good ones will not be attracted to the project unless > > they are given status in the organization. > > You raise ma

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:28:19PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2007 16:11, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:18:20 + > > > > Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > So does this mean that the Debia

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 18:02 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2007 17:49, Michael Pobega wrote: > > My question is just /how/ unstable is Debian Sid? Is it unstable enough > > to make my laptop useless? Or do I have to worry about my files? Or is > > it unstable in the sense

Re: XML editor wanted!

2007-02-04 Thread s. keeling
Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:10:06 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > > On 2/1/07, Johannes Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Am crawling through the web on a search for a proper XML editor, that makes > > > > What are you looking for? I think most people us

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun February 4 2007 14:49, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'm currently using Debian Etch (Testing) on my notebook, and it is > fairly stable in a good sense of the word (Those 100+ release critical > bugs really aren't bugs that affect me, so my system is perfectly stable > to my knowledge). Unstable

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Sunday 04 February 2007 17:49, Michael Pobega wrote: [...] [...] You might also benefit from http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html hth raju Thanks for the link Raju, it really helped me make up my mind. I've dec

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-04 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling writes: > > We're really not sure what the poem actually is > > about. Here it goes: > > ><>!*''# > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yes, but what does it do when you run it? What does it do when _you_ run it? :-) > It _is_ Perl, is it not? I h

Re: Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 17:49, Michael Pobega wrote: > My question is just /how/ unstable is Debian Sid? Is it unstable enough > to make my laptop useless? Or do I have to worry about my files? Or is > it unstable in the sense of Ubuntu, where everything could be fixed with > just a little bit o

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:10:36PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Ken Heard wrote: > >If GNU-Linux is going to make any serious inroads in the BDU market > >(BDU=brain dead user) which Microsoft dominates faute de mieux, there > >has to be documentation which the average BDU can understand. In th

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread J.A. de Vries
On 2007-02-04 @ 08:45:38 (week 05) Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > But how is their Linux support? > I would buy Tripp-Lite because it is readily available here in Mexico, > but, again, how is the Linux support? Hi all, Thanks for all the input. I agree with the advice not to skimp on the UPS. Howeve

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 16:38, Ken Heard wrote: > If the documentation editors are to > be volunteers, good ones will not be attracted to the project unless > they are given status in the organization. You raise many good points some of which are very true and some of which I do not completely

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:24:14PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:42:30PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:32:08PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > > Is there a quick way to rem

Unstable and Testing stability

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
I'm currently using Debian Etch (Testing) on my notebook, and it is fairly stable in a good sense of the word (Those 100+ release critical bugs really aren't bugs that affect me, so my system is perfectly stable to my knowledge). The only problem I'm seeing with Etch is that the packages are s

X.org mouse broke on dist-upgrade, solved ?

2007-02-04 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] A colleague did a dist-upgrade, sarge to etch, and everything still worked except the X Window System. dpkg-reconfigure left him with "No screens found" X unusable. The standard fix for that, boot Knoppix and use the xorg.conf file it gener

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 04 February 2007 16:11, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:18:20 + > > Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > [...] > > > So does this mean that the Debian community, while helpful to > > > newbies that know enough how to ask a question,

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Ken Heard wrote: If GNU-Linux is going to make any serious inroads in the BDU market (BDU=brain dead user) which Microsoft dominates faute de mieux, there has to be documentation which the average BDU can understand. In the distros about which I have had personal experience (Red Hat 8 -- befor

Re: relationship between debian's wiki and newbiedoc's wiki

2007-02-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:36:06 -0500 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you changed the licence to be DFSG compliant, I would be happy to > contribute. Then again, if you did that, perhaps NewbieDoc's wiki > could be merged to Debian's. GFDL is considered DFSG compliant as long as

Re: Installation problem: No partitionable media found

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Ogya Chief wrote: Hi All, I wanted to install Debian Sarge on a new P4 machine with a 160 GB SATA hard disk drive. The installation failed with the following error message: No partitionable media found What could be the problem and what am I missing? Any pointers on how to resolve this p

Re: Installation problem: No partitionable media found

2007-02-04 Thread Ogya Chief
From: Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Installation problem: No partitionable media found Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:37:04 -0500 On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to install Debian Sarge on a n

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:39:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Ottavio Caruso wrote: --- Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAI

Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-04 Thread Ken Heard
If GNU-Linux is going to make any serious inroads in the BDU market (BDU=brain dead user) which Microsoft dominates faute de mieux, there has to be documentation which the average BDU can understand. In the distros about which I have had personal experience (Red Hat 8 -- before RH abandoned the

Re: Netinstall via bridge [SOLVED]

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:31:52PM -0500, celejar wrote: > On 1/28/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > >Hi Celejar > > > >Let me try to draw this out and see if I've got it right: > > > >++++ ++ > >intern

Re: Installation problem: No partitionable media found

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to install Debian Sarge on a new P4 machine with a 160 GB SATA > hard disk drive. The installation failed with the following error message: > > No partitionable media found > > What could be the problem and wha

Re: Installation problem: No partitionable media found

2007-02-04 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Ogya Chief wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to install Debian Sarge on a new P4 machine with a 160 GB SATA > hard disk drive. The installation failed with the following error message: > > No partitionable media found Hello Ogya, I guess your problem is

Re: relationship between debian's wiki and newbiedoc's wiki

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:44:45PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >What is the relationship between the debian.org wiki and newbiedoc's > >wiki? > >[...] > > > > They are not linked. > > NewbieDOC started out as a Sourceforge project for Debian newbie > documentation

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > There's nothing wrong with not being employed by a company because you > don't agree with the company. In some professions, its a professional > duty to not work for such a company. It follows that if there are _no_ > employers with whom you agree then there is a mismatch between y

Re: Netinstall via bridge

2007-02-04 Thread celejar
On 1/28/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Hi Celejar Let me try to draw this out and see if I've got it right: ++++ ++ internet | molly | 192.168.1.0 | lucy | 192.168.2.0 | laptop | |.168.1.

Re: What UPS to buy

2007-02-04 Thread W Paul Mills
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russell L. Harris wrote: > I've had two or three APC UPS units burn up, in the sense of emitting > smoke; that is a bit scary. Cleaning house a week ago, I came across > six or seven APC units of various models which have failed within the > past fiv

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:02:21PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >[...] > > > >How does someone on the debian website find newbiedoc? I just checked > >the documentation page (which is where someone may logically look) and > >there's no mention of it. > > > > > > > > N

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:18:20PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > I hope not! Perhaps we need a debian-newbie-users list? It would need > some more-experienced users prepared to monitor the list and offer > "gentle" advice. The NewbieDOC project used to have a list like this. > Unfortunately, it c

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:02:21 + Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > [...] > > > > How does someone on the debian website find newbiedoc? I just > > checked the documentation page (which is where someone may > > logically look) and there's no mention of it. >

Re: play back mpeg frame by frame

2007-02-04 Thread michael
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 20:03 +, Daniel Harris wrote: > mplayer > > press p for pause and then ctrl + > to move forward one frame at a > time. > > daniel > Daniel - thanks for that (although on my install of mplayer, ii mplayer1.0~rc1-12 The Movie Player it is "." that incre

Re: What UPS to buy: a MGE Evolution 850 or an APC Smart-UPS 750?

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:49:47PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >On 02/04/07 07:59, Colin wrote: > >>J.A. de Vries wrote: > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>Due to power outages at my home I want to buy an UPS for my SOHO server. > >>>For my needs something between 700 and 1000VA should be

Installation problem: No partitionable media found

2007-02-04 Thread Ogya Chief
Hi All, I wanted to install Debian Sarge on a new P4 machine with a 160 GB SATA hard disk drive. The installation failed with the following error message: No partitionable media found What could be the problem and what am I missing? Any pointers on how to resolve this problem will be very

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:18:20 + Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > [...] > > So does this mean that the Debian community, while helpful to > > newbies that know enough how to ask a question, would be happier if > > newbies who don't just went to one of those

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:51:13PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM EST, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > The issue here is that you only need to backup your data. Backups > > of /usr and /var and so on mean nothing. > > yo

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > >>On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:39:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > >>>Ottavio Caruso wrote: > --- Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In such a case, shoul

Re: relationship between debian's wiki and newbiedoc's wiki

2007-02-04 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: What is the relationship between the debian.org wiki and newbiedoc's wiki? [...] They are not linked. NewbieDOC started out as a Sourceforge project for Debian newbie documentation in 2001. It had an email list and a series of Docbook style articles (which are

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:10:53PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > I thought the OP had already tried the vim-full fix. I did/had. [ ...] > I was suggesting a different approach -- ie. ask the vim list where you > will quickly be provided with info as to the various options you have > as

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:55:01PM -0500 or thereabouts, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'm not asking for help, I'm offering it. I think the problem is just a > Debian based distro thing, because none of them come with vim-full > installed by default (As far as I know). vim-full is the package you

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:07:32PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > This way you would really save time and could even keep your actual > software selection without backing up /etc. Oops, of course it has to be "... without backing up /usr." Anyway, mostly the other posters already wrote similar

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:12:38PM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > Other things the OP could check: OK I'm trying the following on a *.php file. > :set compatible? nocompatible > :set t_Co? t_Co=8 > :echo g:colors_name Two errors. E121: Undefined variable: g:colors_name E15: Invali

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] So does this mean that the Debian community, while helpful to newbies that know enough how to ask a question, would be happier if newbies who don't just went to one of those projects instead? I hope not! Perhaps we need a debian-newbie-users list? It wou

Re: Vim colour syntax

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:58:08AM -0500 or thereabouts, cga2000 wrote: > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 08:51:03PM EST, Stephen wrote: > > I'm baffled, I've searched in the suspect places, but I don't see anything > > obvious, (at least to me). > > output of: > > $ vim --version OK cga2000, you aske

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments > that won't mess up apt..? > If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as > gpdf, gimp, and mozilla. You should be able to achieve that goal by

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread cga2000
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM EST, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > Sorry I was unclear. > > > > I want to remove all the crud from my system in order to be able to run > > backups that are fast, small, and simple. > > > > I installed gnome and kd

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Pobega
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:39:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Ottavio Caruso wrote: --- Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In such a case, should I tell my friend "dont apply for jobs with capitalone as they use a website which

Re: Booting Debian/testing fails

2007-02-04 Thread Chris Lale
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] How does someone on the debian website find newbiedoc? I just checked the documentation page (which is where someone may logically look) and there's no mention of it. NewbieDOC is not an official Debian project, although there is a newbiedoc package (whi

Re: install 4.0 on usb hdd

2007-02-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 06:18:14AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Zoran Kolic wrote: Is your BIOS able to boot from a portable USB driveand is the portable USB drive bootable? Bios is ami and sees devices as I connect them to the interface. The other part of questio

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:40:01 -0500 cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments > that won't mess up apt..? > > If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as > gpdf, gimp, and mozilla. > > The main objective is

Re: Xorg will not start -- Success report

2007-02-04 Thread Ken Heard
Last month I sought advice on how to get Xorg to load. Briefly, I installed Etch RC1 in a P3 box. The first boot after installation worked only to the point where Xorg should have started but did not. Running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fiddling with the configurations several times alw

Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:39:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: Ottavio Caruso wrote: --- Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In such a case, should I tell my friend "dont apply for jobs with capitalone as they use a website which is not compatible with

Re: What UPS to buy: a MGE Evolution 850 or an APC Smart-UPS 750?

2007-02-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/07 07:59, Colin wrote: J.A. de Vries wrote: Hi, Due to power outages at my home I want to buy an UPS for my SOHO server. For my needs something between 700 and 1000VA should be enough. I'd like to have auto shutdown and

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-04 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > I want to remove all the crud from my system in order to be able to run > > backups that are fast, small, and simple. > > > > I installed gnome and kde at one point but I never use

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