Re: spamassassin question

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
"Jacob Vallandingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to run spamassassin on an internal linux box with sendmail. It > is runing but the e-mails I send for tests don't get the *SPAM* > message in the header. I know the content of the e-mails should be > classified as spam and I'

Re: Dynamic DNS Setup

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 02:27 PM 5/20/04, Paul Johnson wrote: >>Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Can debian support dynamic dns ? Where can I find the info and how to >> > configure it ? >> >>If we're talking about dyndns.org's services, I would suggest >>http://www.dyn

Re: Exim4 Woes

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for the try David. I will keep plugging away at it. Man I > thought the docs for Qmail were obtuse. exim4 is a bear. Lots of Oooh, exim's not that hard. You can usually find what you're looking for by grepping through /etc/exim4/conf.d -- Pau

Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Robert Epprecht
Ishwar Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and > swap on /dev/hda1 > > The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot) > > [snip] > System does boot correctly. > > I added the entry > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5 > label="d

how-to: wine with 256 color depth

2004-05-30 Thread welly hartanto
I've got a windblows based-program that required 256 bit color depth. Any suggestion ??? --cheers-- welly __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > Ignoring the first sentence, I agree. > I'm a very selfish person right now; I don't get enough sleep, enough > toys, and enough time with my hubby as is. I don't have the time and > resources for a dog, so I don't have one of those, either. Even though, > in marked co

Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Just hitting delete is considered harmful with spam (you should be > reporting it). We've gone over this, Paul. So far you have not volunteered to report spam for the rest of us since you feel that we're just as bad as spammers for not spending our every waking hour repo

Re: exim removed ?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Ping Wing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi! Debian Users >> >> >> How to removed exim from Debian server ? When I try >> using dpkg to removed >> it ..it show there was some program is need .. >> > > maybe its easyer to leave it to system unconfigured.

Re: exim removed ?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How to removed exim from Debian server ? When I try using dpkg to > removed it ..it show there was some program is need .. What are you trying to achieve by removing exim? Are you replacing it with another MTA? An MTA is a required part of the system. --

Re: A better sound system than esd and arts?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Joseph Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Basically I'm looking for something that does mmap whilst still being > fast, as opposed to arts which delays all sound by .1 of a second or > something. > > One thing I would like is Quake 3 compatibility. Sound is the only > problem I currently have wit

Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Easy? Delete key. Just hitting delete is considered harmful with spam (you should be reporting it). -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgpY3TQRgHj4l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

2004-05-30 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems, >>> this is why they're considered harmful. >> >> How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list subscripti

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Monique Y. Mudama: > On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a > >> bit... > > > > Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this > > child-centric thinking that pervades ev

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > > Paul Johnson wrote: >> I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a >> bit... > > Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this > child-centric thinking that pervades every portion of our lives. > This is one thing

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-31, Steve Lamb penned: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --enig61A551D5E35ABF217C53C86B Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > richard lyons wrote: >> My remark was intended to friendly and appreciative --

Re: BroadCom net card (bcm4400 kernel module) and sarge installer

2004-05-30 Thread Adam Aube
Rua Haszard Morris wrote: > Cheers - I am guessing that now I simply need to "load additional driver > modules" and select tg3 early in the installation.. correct? Yes - assuming the Sarge installer doesn't find it for you. > This is something I wondered - how do newbies know what modules to > s

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-30, Steve Lamb penned: > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is > *NOT* something anyone should do unless they absolutely want to. > It is unlike virtually every other choice in this life; > irreversable. You simply cannot undo having a child. T

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-05-30, richard lyons penned: > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > Mine to miss out on; I can filter my first response on newsgroups; thanks for recognizing that it's NOYB =) -- monique -- To UNSUBSC

2.6.6 Kernel + Adaptec aic7890/91 = Kernel panic

2004-05-30 Thread Ralph Bergmann
Hello! If I use the 2.6.6 kernel, I get a "Kernel panic" when starting. I use a Debian unstable, last update 31.Mai 2004. Kernel: kernel-image-2.6.6-1-686-smp System: :00:00.0 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20LE Host Bridge (rev 05) :00:00.1 Host bridge: ServerWorks CNB20LE Host Bridge (rev 05

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I don't think Mr. Lyons meant anything by it, Steve. Back off a bit... Hell no. Meant doesn't matter. I, for one, am sick of this child-centric thinking that pervades every portion of our lives. This is one thing that I do NOT back down on because it is to the point o

squid-prefetch: Howto?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
There is zero documentation for this package. No comments in the script, no documentation, no man pages, no --help. Anybody have any idea how to use this at all? -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgpytVno84Mk2.pgp Description: PGP signatur

broadcom BCM5700 2.6 kernel (tg3 module)

2004-05-30 Thread Michael Webber
Hi all, I have been working 12/7 for 2 weeks and 5 days on this problem with the help of #debian irc chat. My problem is I can't get my server ( HP DL140) with Broadcom BCM1504 nics to work with a 2.6 kernel of any kind. It is a dual XEON 2.4 with 2 gig of ddr ecc ram (if that matters). I h

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
richard lyons wrote: > My remark was intended to friendly and appreciative -- and came with > an apology for interfering. What your intent was doesn't matter. Do you walk up to strange women on the street, pat them on the head and tell them they'd be better off out of their business suit and

Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread welly hartanto
I'm running sid 2.6.5, I had no problem with VMware-4.5 . The guest OS was WinXP Pro. But I don't have it anymore. Can't play games that need hardware acceleration is the main reasons why I don't use it anymore. I'd rather use wine. Have a nice try. --welly-- --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Kai Grossjohann wrote: > If you have more than one level, then you need to hit >> more often. > (At least if my understanding of >> does is right.) As I said, meaningful problem. I certainly don't see this a problem as I could just prefix it with a count and I have found, from personal experi

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Kai Grossjohann wrote: > My proposal was meant to allow people to edit the same file, but to > see different things depending on their preferences. I believe in > giving people the choice to view things as they like. Which doesn't work in a collaberative environment; even then coding standard

Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've had no problem using the internal networking (shared folders, basically) between the host Debian Sid Kernel 2.4.2X and Windows XP... works fine :) Also, the NAT setup between the Guest OS and Debian works fine (I can talk out from my Guest OS over my Debian connection(s) ). Micha Feigin w

Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 08:22:39PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote: > I am interested in running vmware-4.5 work-station under debian/testing > (2.6.5). The software (not purchased yet) has a rpm package > and a tar.gz that contains files for RH/Mandralke/SuSe. Is any one > running it suceesfully under

Re: Multiboot Query

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Galbraith
Tony Bradley wrote: I am currently using the SuSE 7.2 version of Linux, and am feel I am no longer quite a newbie (but certainly no guru! ;) ) I would like to experiment with the debian distribution, but still retain SuSE in case of emergencies. Could you please explain how to install two or more

Re: Thunderbird/Firefox rendering without borders and scrollbars

2004-05-30 Thread dircha
dircha wrote: After resuming from suspend-to-disk (ACPI sleep state 4), Thunderbird (mozilla-thunderbird in sid) and Firefox (mozilla-firefox in sid) render their interfaces without borders and scrollbars. Both applications otherwise function correctly. Another update on my troubleshooting effor

Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am using VMWARE 4.5 workstation under Debian/testing 2.4.24 Sid -- works absolutely flawlessly on my Thinkpad X31 (I have Windowx XP as the Guest OS running under VMWARE to run all those nasty Windows apps I can't get a good equivalent for under Linux :) ). Peripherals-wise, I have gotten ev

Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread Greg Norris
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 08:22:39PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote: > I am interested in running vmware-4.5 work-station under debian/testing > (2.6.5). The software (not purchased yet) has a rpm package > and a tar.gz that contains files for RH/Mandralke/SuSe. Is any one > running it suceesfully under

HELP - tried to apt-get kscreensaver, now I have a real mess!!!

2004-05-30 Thread Mike Moum
Hi, I'm new to Debian. I set up my system by installing Knoppix 3.3 to my hard drive. Upon discovering that there are no screen savers in my installation, I decided to "apt-get install kscreensaver", using the KPackage utility. apt-get found another dozen or so dependencies, which I told it

Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan: > On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from Ishwar Rattan: > > > > > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5 > > > label="debian" > > > root=/dev/hda5 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5 > > > append="xx...xx" > > > read-only > > > > > > and when command /s

VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-05-30 Thread Ishwar Rattan
I am interested in running vmware-4.5 work-station under debian/testing (2.6.5). The software (not purchased yet) has a rpm package and a tar.gz that contains files for RH/Mandralke/SuSe. Is any one running it suceesfully under debian? -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Ishwar Rattan
On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Ishwar Rattan: > > > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5 > > label="debian" > > root=/dev/hda5 > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5 > > append="xx...xx" > > read-only > > > > and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error

Re: Acrobat Reader

2004-05-30 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Pedro M. (Morphix User) (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I send an interesting link to install Adobe Acrobat in Debian ( with > the adventage of copy the text of the pdf files to ehte clipboard, > something that one cannot do with xpdf and derivatives). > > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?A

Reposting: Can't Install on Beta 4 Sarge

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone have any ideas on this? I'm reposting it because after banging my head again today, I still have no clue as to how to proceed: I'm having a bizarre problem with a Sarge Beta 4 Installer cd set trying to install to a P4/1Gig Ram/120gigHD/IDE/E1000 Tyan motherboard. I can get all the way t

SOLVED: Replicating Debian Systems

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just to close this out for anyone doing searches in the list archive: Beta 4 has the E1000 drivers in it, and they are perfectly recognized and configured :) (And yes, of course Bob is right below in that the kernel version has a lot to do with it -- the Beta 4 distribution packaged with Sarge a

Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Ishwar Rattan (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and > swap on /dev/hda1 > > The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot) > > boot=/dev/hda > map=/boot/map > default="linux" > prompt > nowarn > timeout=100 > message=xxx

Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan: > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5 > label="debian" > root=/dev/hda5 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5 > append="xx...xx" > read-only > > and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error > > Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file

debian on imac - compiling kernels

2004-05-30 Thread Mal Beaton
I have just been playing with installing debian on an imac computer i just got hold of. The standard installation went fine. All boots and kde works I decided to compile a 2.6.6 kernel to see how it would go I copied the old 2.4 config to the source of the 2.6.6 and did make oldconfig answered all

Re: Acrobat Reader

2004-05-30 Thread Joris
Pedro M. (Morphix User) verraste ons met de boodschap: > I send an interesting link to install Adobe Acrobat in Debian ( with the > adventage of copy the text of the pdf files to ehte clipboard, something > that one cannot do with xpdf and derivatives). > > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?Acro

Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Ishwar Rattan
I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and swap on /dev/hda1 The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot) boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map default="linux" prompt nowarn timeout=100 message= menu-scheme= image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/

Re: BroadCom net card (bcm4400 kernel module) and sarge installer

2004-05-30 Thread Rua Haszard Morris
Rua Haszard Morris wrote: My question is how to I get this set up early in the install process so I can proceed with install as normal? Alternatively, how do I set up the card now that I have a very minimal install & then proceed with base-config? From: Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I believe that

Re: USB driver for digital camera?

2004-05-30 Thread Karol Czachorowski
On Sun, 30 May 2004 14:47:06 -0400 Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I plug the camera in and turn it on, however, I get a message > saying that USB has detected the new device, but that there is no > active driver for it. Is there a linux driver/kernel module that I > need to load

Re: Multiboot Query

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Tony Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please explain how to install two or more distributions > alongside one another on the same system, so that I can choose between > them using LILO. Create a partition or two for Debian, then tell the Debian installer to use them. Then you'll n

Thunderbird/Firefox rendering without borders and scrollbars

2004-05-30 Thread dircha
After resuming from suspend-to-disk (ACPI sleep state 4), Thunderbird (mozilla-thunderbird in sid) and Firefox (mozilla-firefox in sid) render their interfaces without borders and scrollbars. Both applications otherwise function correctly. I'm using the default themes for both applications (whi

Hi, I sent you an eCard from AmericanGreetings.com

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To view your eCard, choose from the options below. Click on the following link. http://www.americangreetings.com/view.pd?i=361562380&m=&rr=y&source=aolm999 OR Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window. OR Enter the following eCard Number, 361562380, on our

Multiboot Query

2004-05-30 Thread Tony Bradley
I am currently using the SuSE 7.2 version of Linux, and am feel I am no longer quite a newbie (but certainly no guru! ;) ) I would like to experiment with the debian distribution, but still retain SuSE in case of emergencies. Could you please explain how to install two or more distributions along

Acrobat Reader

2004-05-30 Thread Pedro M. (Morphix User)
I send an interesting link to install Adobe Acrobat in Debian ( with the adventage of copy the text of the pdf files to ehte clipboard, something that one cannot do with xpdf and derivatives). http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?Acrobat Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: why "Your connection was refused while attempting to contact" ?

2004-05-30 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 30 May 2004 14:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Eduardo Ariel Menendez Proupin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > Last month, trying to read tax information, I discovered > that cannot access a web page available for this operation. > I was unable to do it using any browser I have on my PC > (mozi

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > richard lyons wrote: >> a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we >> see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a chil

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread Silvan
On Sunday 30 May 2004 03:17 am, H.A. Sujith wrote: > I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel > 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer. It gives > the error "No devices detected". I have tried everything from Modifying What X server? If it's no

Re: USB driver for digital camera?

2004-05-30 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 02:47:06PM -0400, Marc Shapiro wrote: > My wife just bought me a Polaroid PhotoMAX 640 SE for Fathers' Day, at a > yard sale. It seems to be complete with everything except the original > batteries and I am trying to get it working under Linux. It says that > it is TWAI

Mozilla killing when printing

2004-05-30 Thread Eduardo Ariel Menendez Proupin
Hi, Frequently my mozilla browser goes down when I try to print a page. I reinstalled Mozilla, but the problem remains. Usually, I can print the first time, but the second time, mozilla ges killed? What can I do? Thanks Eduardo _ Do You Yahoo

why "Your connection was refused while attempting to contact" ?

2004-05-30 Thread Eduardo Ariel Menendez Proupin
Hello, Last month, trying to read tax information, I discovered that cannot access a web page available for this operation. I was unable to do it using any browser I have on my PC (mozilla,galeon,lynx,netscape). I just receive an Alert windows saying "Your connection was refused while attempting

RE: Good friend gone awry

2004-05-30 Thread David Baron
Apparently, the nice is not working on the cron/anacron invocation of setiathome. The cron-run will eventually crash Kmail, even if no transfers of files are taking place. Using the "tkseti" intervace to run it, nice does seem to work. The little system monitor also indicates nice effective for

Re: Solved: Failure to start gnome-settings-daemon

2004-05-30 Thread Dominique Deleris
On Sun, 30 May 2004 03:15:39 -0700, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: William> In this message: William> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/05/msg03616.html William> I asked what had happened to /usr/bin/gnome-settings-deamon. William> It has moved to /usr/lib/control-center/gno

Re: USB driver for digital camera?

2004-05-30 Thread Dan Korostelev
On Sun, 2004-05-30 at 14:47 -0400, Marc Shapiro wrote: > When I plug the camera in and turn it on, however, I get a message > saying that USB has detected the new device, but that there is no active > driver for it. Is there a linux driver/kernel module that I need to > load to use this device

Re: BroadCom net card (bcm4400 kernel module) and sarge installer

2004-05-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Rua Haszard Morris wrote: > I'm trying to install Debian. The problem is (i think) that my NIC is > not detected/set up properly. The released Debian woody has no automatic hardware detection. You must configure your hardware explicitly. The upcoming Debian sarge will have automatic hardware d

USB driver for digital camera?

2004-05-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
My wife just bought me a Polaroid PhotoMAX 640 SE for Fathers' Day, at a yard sale. It seems to be complete with everything except the original batteries and I am trying to get it working under Linux. It says that it is TWAIN compatible and comes with both a USB and a serial adapter. I am ho

Re: Replicating Debian Systems

2004-05-30 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But in my first attempt at installing on these boxes, using my Beta 2 > Installer, I got an error message that it didn't have drivers for the > E1000 gigabit nics on these servers. (I've never used a gigabit nics > before with Debian, only with FC and RH). You need li

Re: Automounting user (NIS) accounts from Solaris to debian

2004-05-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Mauricio wrote: > which is currently a nis client of a Solaris 8 box. I would also > like to be able to use, say, autofs to mount user partitions in the > debian box. How to do that? I did not go very far besides > installing the package (as in apt-get install autofs) That is enough for host

Re: Gdm Sessions Adding Enlightenment

2004-05-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Please don't thread steal. You replied to another posting and changed the subject. Please just send a new message to the list to start a new thread. Paul wrote: > I then installed gdm and choose that as the default. Gdm seems to > work fine and so I wanted to install enlightenment. that instal

Re: delete key doesn't work with csh in xterm session

2004-05-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Please don't "thread steal". You replied to a message with subject "Kernel Compile (being really stupid)" and then changed the subject. What does this have to do that that? Lucas Albers wrote: > I recently upgraded our central server from redhat 7.3 to debian woody/sarge. > > Not so hard, been r

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread H.A. Sujith
H.A. Sujith wrote: I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer. It gives the error "No devices detected". I have tried everything from Modifying the XF86Config-4 file to recompiling the kernel(with appropriat

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Grossjohann wrote: >> This will work for one level of nesting. But this means you need to >> keep track of the nesting levels when moving things around in the >> code. > > Huh? Works for multiple levels. I've often refactored code from simple > f

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Ron Graves
> The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. Really? > Be kind of a let-down to stop now. "Let-down?" I shall now cast aside Camus, as I have stumbled upon such elegant philosophy. The need for further study has washed away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I set tab width to 4, align at 6. Tab + 2 spaces. Person sets his tabs > to 8 the line is 10 spaces out, 4 spaces too far. That's why people insist on > a tab width of 8. If tabs were immutable like that mixing tabs and spaces > wouldn't be a proble

Re: X server crash

2004-05-30 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:49:20 +1000 "Prometheus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: xserver-xfree86 > Version: 4.1.0-16woody3 > > I have a problem running X server on my debian box. I ran the > xf86config application and set up the configuration, but when I tried to > start the server (xinit

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Grossjohann wrote: >> You have mentioned a number of problems, but your proposal has even >> more problems. > > Such as what exactly? > > Indention works. Alignment works. Everyone sees the same thing. This is the problem: everyone sees t

Re: X fails to find my vidio card

2004-05-30 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: and then do "apt-get update" followed by "apt-get upgrade". Oops; should've been "followed by 'apt-get dist-upgrade'". -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can't Install on Beta 4 Sarge

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm having a bizarre problem with a Sarge Beta 4 Installer cd set trying to install to a P4/1Gig Ram/120gigHD/IDE/E1000 Tyan motherboard. I can get all the way through to choosing a kernel to install (so partitioning and installing the base system works fine) -- but regardless of what I choose

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 20:29, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 06:43:00PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > On Saturday 29 May 2004 17:33, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 03:01:42PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > > > I dist-upgraded from sarge to sid abt. three days a

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 21:02, W Paul Mills wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > >> Once I solved this properly (making sure I still have > >> gnome-cups-manager) everything was fine. > > > > Micha, what do you mean by 'solved this properly'? I thought I > > had, for a moment. No packages are shown as

Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 22:08, Adam Aube wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email > > systems, this is why they're considered harmful. > > How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list > subscription confirmations (like those used by the

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 30 May 2004 06:39, Steve Lamb wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from > > what we see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is > *NOT* something anyone should do

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 12:47:49PM +0530, H.A. Sujith wrote: > I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel > 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer. It gives > the error "No devices detected". I have tried everything from > Modifying Does it say

Re: KDE starts very slow since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-2

2004-05-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 30 May 2004 the mental interface of Joan Tur told: > Es Diumenge Maig 30 2004 14:17, en Elimar Riesebieter va escriure: > | Hi all, > | > | does one knows why the start of wm's like kde or xfce4 slows down > | since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-[2|3|4]? > Try running "fc-cache -f"... Works perfec

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread Tony
One thing worth trying in this sort of situation is to try booting Knoppix and seeing what drivers that uses if successful. Regards Tony Middleton. H.A. Sujith wrote: I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread Tony
One thing worth trying in this sort of situation is to try booting Knoppix and seeing what drivers that uses if successful. Regards Tony Middleton. H.A. Sujith wrote: I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. What is the purpose of reproducing? > Your DNA is over 4 billion years old. Many rocks are older. > Be kind of a let-down to stop now. Don't worry. Someone will pick up the slack. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: KDE starts very slow since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-2

2004-05-30 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge Maig 30 2004 14:17, en Elimar Riesebieter va escriure: | Hi all, | | does one knows why the start of wm's like kde or xfce4 slows down | since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-[2|3|4]? Try running "fc-cache -f"... - -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-S

KDE starts very slow since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-2

2004-05-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all, does one knows why the start of wm's like kde or xfce4 slows down since xfree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-[2|3|4]? Ciao Elimar -- Do you smell something burning or ist it me? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: lynx and google.com

2004-05-30 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Sun, 30 May 2004 01:20:28 +0200, Albert Cahalan wrote: > I think we're getting proxied by Comcast. I have lynx > in two places, neither of which has been recently upgraded. *hmmm* I'm finding the same thing on ntl (UK) though lynx works fine from my sourceforge account. > 1. how do I verif

Re: X not starting on Intel 845G

2004-05-30 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Sun, 30 May 2004 09:30:06 +0200, H.A. Sujith wrote: > I have debian 3.0r2 woody. I have an on board graphics controller Intel > 845G/L (Brookdale). X server is not starting on my computer. It gives > the error "No devices detected". I have tried everything from Modifying [snip] Which X driv

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Kai Grossjohann wrote: > You have mentioned a number of problems, but your proposal has even > more problems. Such as what exactly? Indention works. Alignment works. Everyone sees the same thing. If they are working on the same code they use the same style. In the case of Python t

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Grossjohann wrote: >> Well, nothing that couldn't be solved with a somewhat wider window. >> Many people like to have windows wider than 80 columns. (I prefer 80 >> columns, myself.) > > And wider paper? The commonly accepted practice is that code

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Grossjohann wrote: > >> The style I'm proposing is designed to make it possible to change >> tab width! > > It does not work. Yeah... > Consider the problems created with a code file created by a user who > prefers 8-character-width tabs _and_ 80 columns.

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
William Ballard wrote: > The only purpose in living is to reproduce and die. Your DNA is over 4 > billion years old. Be kind of a let-down to stop now. > We are mere carriers for this ancient stuff. Yeah. And part of extending out genetic stock is to beat and kill off the competition. Fo

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:39:45AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is *NOT* > something a

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
richard lyons wrote: > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from what we > see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is *NOT* something anyone should do unless they absolutely want to. It is unlike virtually

Solved: Failure to start gnome-settings-daemon

2004-05-30 Thread William Ballard
In this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/05/msg03616.html I asked what had happened to /usr/bin/gnome-settings-deamon. It has moved to /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon. Someone told me that, but this is a more precise answer. In case anyone else needs to know. --

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 23:44, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-05-29, Kent West penned: > > Micha Feigin wrote: > >>On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 08:46:22PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama > >> wrote: > > > > Whoa! I just realized while reading this thread that Monique's > > name has changed. Me too. > > > >

Exim4 frozen messages

2004-05-30 Thread Aryan Ameri
Hi there: I recently installed a sid system from scratch, and am in the process of setting it up and using it as my main desktop system. The default MTA comming with sid is Exim4, and I am having difficulty setting it up. I have exim4 running and working on my Libranet/Sarge system with no prob

X server crash

2004-05-30 Thread Prometheus
Package: xserver-xfree86Version: 4.1.0-16woody3  I have a problem running X server on my debian box.  I ran the xf86config application and set up the configuration, but when I tried to start the server (xinit or startx), it crashed. The log file is attached. Note that the video card I am usi

Re: scsi under sarge

2004-05-30 Thread steef van duin
Katipo wrote: steef van duin wrote: hi david, down here what I did before, but cdrecord does not react on dev=1,0,0 (the aopen com4824 is the burner), so it seems i am stuck any further suggestions? thanks in advance, regards, steef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2

Re: Need help installing Woody

2004-05-30 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Sat, 29 May 2004 23:30:11 +0200, Wolfgang Zocher wrote: > Any hints to possible snares are welcome! Is it correct, what you ask is: 'Can I share the swap for both installs (distros) ? In case this is the question, the unambiguous answer is 'yes'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email systems, >> this is why they're considered harmful. > > How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list subscription > confirmations (like those used by the Debian l

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