Re: Debian and KDE

2003-08-27 Thread Kent West
William Bradley wrote: I am using the latest Debian woody and installed KDE. The Kppp dialer was not part of the install so I apt-get installed kppp. When I went to use it the following was the response: "KDE Init coult not launch 'Kppp': Could not find 'Kppp' executable" Can anyone help me wi

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:15:13AM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:57:27PM -0400, Al Davis wrote: > > Learn the style, so when someone gives you a COBOL-style > > program in C++, you will understand it. > > Do not underestimate the value of this. You can take a COBOL

Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-27 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Wayne Gemmell (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Have you gotten K3B to work for regular users? I get the error > > > Unable to find cdrecord executable > K3b uses cdrecord to actually write cds. Without cdrecord K3b won't be > able to properly initialize the writing devices. > Solution: Inst

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:56, Diego Calleja García wrote: > El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:11:08 -0500 Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > C comes in. Yet I see people writing 'modern' GUI applications and using > > C when I would think C++ would be a much better choice. Is there > > som

time mag on sobig.f and msblaster

2003-08-27 Thread Peter Nuttall
Hi everyone I didn't notice either of the two viruses (note: viruses not virii, viri or even viria) much. Just the odd email can with it and it did not do much to my linux system. But still when I opened time this morning I found this article of the subject interesting: http://www.time.com/tim

Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 05:12, Stefan Waidele jun. wrote: > Since there is no reaction to my private mail, I have to do this publicly. > > Kevin Mark uses my domain 'waidele.info' in order to fake his from-adress. > I have asked him to stop it, but he still continues. > > So once again, Kevin: Stop

Re: Command line printing

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:38, Wayne Gemmell wrote: > Hi all > Now that I've got printing in KDE to work I need to get Openoffice and > network(Samba) printing to work. Oo seems to need a commandline input and > this is what I'm starting with and also where my confusion begins. > A few questions,

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-27 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 14:12, Murray J. Brown wrote: > BTW, the author's note was not a cop-out; it was actually an insightful > remark, albeit terse and presumptive of some sophistication on the part > of the user. I continue not to agree on this count. The note provided didn't say anything abou

Results of your commands

2003-08-27 Thread SYMPA
> See the attached file for details Command not understood: ignoring end of message. No command found in message -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Added Subject [Missing Java(?)]

2003-08-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Frédéric Aliotti([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rl "Woody" Official i386. > I'm trying to use an application called Cyberdocs on this computer : this > application have to open OpenOffice.org to convert word documents to XML. > This proc

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Kirk Strauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > At 2003-08-27T11:41:17Z, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > To me, it seems that the obvious solution is to run the script through a > > Perl compiler, and produce a binary executable that should execute at the > > same order of speed as any o

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 7:45 pm, Deryk Barker wrote: > Thus spake Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:06, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > > > > Python!! Object oriented, and methods that need speed are > > > > wrapped around C. > > > > > > And very very slo

Mozilla and Print

2003-08-27 Thread Rodrigo Gesswein
Hello! I have installed Debian 3.0r1 and Mozilla 1.4, but when I try to print a html page, CPU goes to 100% and nothing happend, I must kill mozilla manually. LPD is installed and configured right. Any ideas ? Thanks! Rodrigo! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Kernel vs driver question

2003-08-27 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Larry (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have a driver that expects to be loaded into kernel > 2.4.18. > > I'm running kernel 2.4.18-i386, which should be > compatable. > > The driver barfs and drops out because it sees this > kernel label (somewhere) and decides it isn't 2.4.18. insmod ha

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:21:05 -0700 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's relatively easy to learn, plus everybody else in the unix world > > uses C. It's portable. It helps to know your history: C was created > > to write unix to begin w

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Malinovich
Дана сре, 27-08-2003 у 13:06, Steve Lamb је написао: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:21:05 -0700 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's relatively easy to learn, plus everybody else in the unix world > > uses C. It's portable. It helps to know your history: C was created > > to write unix t

broken packages or not ?

2003-08-27 Thread mess-mate
Hi all, when I run synaptic there are no broken packages. Running aptitude there are ?? What's wrong ? mess-mate -- Computers are like air conditioners, they are useless when you open Windows. .mimetmp Description: PGP signature

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:27:15AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:54:58PM -0700, Loren M Lang wrote: > > If people don't learn C before C++, it A) a little harder to learn > > properly, and B) it's harder for them to learn other languages later like > > C, Objective C, and

more OT: search-and-replace commands (was Re: OT: Why is C so popular?)

2003-08-27 Thread Harshwardhan Nagaonkar
Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:17:30 +0200 Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 06:34, Paul Johnson wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to read if you wrote it s/C/Perl/ ? So that it wouldn't change Choo-choo to Perlhoo-cho

loggin with iptables, syslog problem

2003-08-27 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Hello, I have the following entry: LOGall -- anywhere anywhere limit: avg 3/hour burst 5 LOG level debug prefix `IPT INPUT packet died: ' and the following thing in syslog.conf ahmed:/var/log# more /etc/syslog.conf | grep kern kern.* -/va

Cups printing problem

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Allison
I'm still running into problems with my CUPS printer. It's on a client server configuration and the command line lpr and open office both work fine. But the Mozilla printer doesn't work. This is the DEBUG2 output, I get an IPP error, but I have no idea what that actually "means". This is wha

Re: Kernel vs driver question

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:41, Larry wrote: > I have a driver that expects to be loaded into kernel > 2.4.18. > > I'm running kernel 2.4.18-i386, which should be > compatable. > > The driver barfs and drops out because it sees this > kernel label (somewhere) and decides it isn't 2.4.18. > > Other

Re: xferring files from window

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
Jianan Huang wrote: [...] Renaming all the files to ones without spaces would be too tedious. I know this does not solve the problem, but if you ever need to rename a lot of files, you might want to look up 'mmv' - Multiple Move. Excelent program. HTH sometimes, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Alan Shutko
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can't say about Perl, but attempts at a Python compiler have only > been partially successful, because Python is so dynamic. Common Lisp is also a very dynamic language, and can be compiled. (Some implementations are completely compiled.) AFAICT, it's ju

Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
Stefan Waidele jun. wrote: Since there is no reaction to my private mail, I have to do this publicly. And since I have stepped into the public, I have to do this publicly, too: Sorry, Kevin. I shot to soon and too hard. Now comming to think about it... Why should anybody pick (of all possibilitie

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:19:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: } On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:53, Gregory Seidman wrote: } > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:43:55PM +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: } > } On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:11:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: } > [...] } > } First convince me that object

Debian and KDE

2003-08-27 Thread William Bradley
I am using the latest Debian woody and installed KDE. The Kppp dialer was not part of the install so I apt-get installed kppp. When I went to use it the following was the response: "KDE Init coult not launch 'Kppp': Could not find 'Kppp' executable" Can anyone help me with this? During Debian'

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Wed Aug 27, 2003 at 12:02:23PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: > It doesn't matter how good or bad Java, C, or any other language might > be. What counts is who's backing it, what you can do with it, and how > fast you can do it (how good the development tools are, how much of of > that co

Re: cloning Debian hard drive

2003-08-27 Thread mess-mate
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:49:44 +1000 Corey Ralph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 01:27 AM, Victory wrote: | > 1, Is there way to clone this hard drive ? | | If you are cloning it to an identical hard drive, you can use dd, eg: | | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb | Do yo

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:11:08 -0500 Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > C comes in. Yet I see people writing 'modern' GUI applications and using > C when I would think C++ would be a much better choice. Is there > something that I'm missing? Something that C actually does better than >

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:21:36 -0500 Rthoreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > If someone can show a nice chart showing the speed increase compared > to stability of Gentoo vs Debian, I would be more than happy to put > Gentoo on a box. gentoo itself doesn't search to get super-optimized binari

Re: NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question

2003-08-27 Thread Ashley Graham
> Don't know about winXP though - that might go different. Maybe I will rock it win2k style all... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
The ActiveState Perl Developer's Kit for Windows can take a perl script and turn it into an executable file. But it doesn't really compile it. It just packages the minimum files needed for your script to run an compresses them. The .exe file expands the files and runs the perl script as a script. Y

Funny failure of a CR system on debian-devel

2003-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, This is the tail end of a CR dialogue we saw on debian devel. First, there was a notice that mail from debian-devel was quarantined, and there was a sekrit to send to unlock the mails. Next, we got a notice that the sekrit was successfully received. And not the poor soul is gonn

Command line printing

2003-08-27 Thread Wayne Gemmell
Hi all Now that I've got printing in KDE to work I need to get Openoffice and network(Samba) printing to work. Oo seems to need a commandline input and this is what I'm starting with and also where my confusion begins. A few questions, Which package is lp part of? Should I use lp or lpr? I seem

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-27T11:41:17Z, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To me, it seems that the obvious solution is to run the script through a > Perl compiler, and produce a binary executable that should execute at the > same order of speed as any other compiled HLL code. Perl is compiled into opcodes be

Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-27 Thread Wayne Gemmell
> both of the tools mentioned above are command line tools. if you use kde > you might prefer k3b (for burning) and kaudiocreater (for ripping). Hi Have you gotten K3B to work for regular users? I get the error Unable to find cdrecord executable K3b uses cdrecord to actually write cds. Without

Re: freqtweak bug?

2003-08-27 Thread Tim Beauregard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colin Watson wrote: | On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:07:36PM +0100, Tim Beauregard wrote: | |>Is this a bug? |> |>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ freqtweak |>freqtweak: relocation error: freqtweak: symbol _ZTV10wxListBase, version |>WXGTK_2.4 not defined in file libwx

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Mueller
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:05, Gregory Seidman wrote: > The only reason you can't find documentation for C++ libraries is because > you haven't looked. Stop spreading misinformation and STFW. Explore the > URLs below. > > http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/ That link is not that helpful in learning S

Re: Mounting large Windows ME disk?

2003-08-27 Thread Larry Hunter
Arnt, Thanks again for trying, but I just ordered another disk. $1/GB just makes messing around with trying to get the windows filesystem to mount too much effort for the payoff. Now I can mirror the disks across the machines and have a reliable backup, too. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-27 Thread Murray J. Brown
Hi Bret, On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:06, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:12, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > But please notice two things: > > 1) If I use one of those tools, it does something, sets up something. > What will it do? It's someone else's canned decisions about how

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:55:41 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:06, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > And very very slow too, like any other script language. > One thing I learned a *long* time ago is that even an 80286 is faster > than people typing, reading the scre

RE: pppd and Debian...

2003-08-27 Thread Preston Boyington
Title: RE: pppd and Debian... > I have a problem . My modem is detected by Linux, but when > I try to connect by wvdial, this message is shown on console: > > Hmm... a prompt. Sending "ppp". > ppp > PPP: Not enabled > try wvdial as root.  I don't think you have your permissions set

Vexira Antivirus for Mail?

2003-08-27 Thread Robert L. Harris
Is anyone using Vexira Antivirus for mail with Exim? I'm trying to test it for usability and hitting some odd problems I'm hoping someone may have run into. :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E34

Re: cdr into jpg

2003-08-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:38:56 +0300, "Melih Evcimen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I want to transform an image in cdr into jpg format. Do you know of > any program that will do it? Thanks a lot .._many_, 'apropos jpg' or 'man -k jpg' for suggestions from your own

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:17:30 +0200 Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 06:34, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be easier to read if you wrote it s/C/Perl/ ? > > So that it wouldn't change Choo-choo to Perlhoo-choo. I

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:35:23 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought C was pretty object-oriented, unless I'm totally confused on > the concept. (If not, what does .o stand for if not Object?) Yeah, I'll play into your ploy. Now take just that o, change one function in it a

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Xavier Andrade
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Chris de Vidal wrote: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org > What you can do is add some sort of benchmarking of important packages (xfree, gnome, kde, etc.) so you or your users can get the best compilation flags for each processor/system. That way each package compilat

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:21:05 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's relatively easy to learn, plus everybody else in the unix world > uses C. It's portable. It helps to know your history: C was created > to write unix to begin with. *cough, spit* I was able to grasp Turbo Pas

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Malinovich
Дана сре, 27-08-2003 у 06:41, Pigeon је написао: --snip-- > Is there any reason why any of these complex scripting languages have > to be interpreted, as opposed to compiled? > > Some quite complex packages are around which have been written in > such languages; Perl seems to be both common and ex

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Elie De Brauwer
> } C is perfectly commented in the manpages, php has php.net, java has the > } api documentation, perl has perldoc and c++ has /dev/null (i know the > } first remark is that all c functions that are commented are part of of > } c++ and you have a piece). > > The only reason you can't find document

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread David Z Maze
Alfredo Valles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 3:59 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Python!! Object oriented, and methods that need speed are >> wrapped around C. > > > And very very slow too, like any other script language. What do you really need the speed for?

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:06, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > Python!! Object oriented, and methods that need speed are > > > wrapped around C. > > > > > > And very very slow too, like any other script language. > > One thing I learned a *l

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:41:17PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > To me, it seems that the obvious solution is to run the script through > a Perl compiler, and produce a binary executable that should execute > at the same order of speed as any other compiled HLL code. Why is this > not done? Is it simply t

flock|fcntl and mutt

2003-08-27 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi, yesterday I installed FreeBSD (RELEASE-5.1) the firts time. Great with the famous handbook ;-) The home-dirs are mounted via nfs from a woody box. When I start mutt at the FreeBSD box it shows flock: Operation not supported (errno = 45) mutt compiled with --enable-fcntl: fcntl: Operation no

Kernel vs driver question

2003-08-27 Thread Larry
I have a driver that expects to be loaded into kernel 2.4.18. I'm running kernel 2.4.18-i386, which should be compatable. The driver barfs and drops out because it sees this kernel label (somewhere) and decides it isn't 2.4.18. Other than generating an entirely new kernel, is there a way to get

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 06:41, Pigeon wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 07:53:34PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 19:35, Britton wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:25:55AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] [snip] >

Re: Checking what's installed

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:40:22 +0900 Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I beg to differ: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 9% dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | wc > 126 9528173 > > Seems there are 126 that are not both installed and desired. It shows > all the packages that it knows about. The

Re: pppd and Debian...

2003-08-27 Thread Shaul Karl
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 03:25:57PM +0200, Piotr Ma?ecki wrote: > I have a problem . My modem is detected by Linux, but when > I try to connect by wvdial, this message is shown on console: > [ ... ] > ** Ascend Pipeline Terminal Server ** > ascend% > --> Hmm... a prompt. Sending "pp

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:53, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:43:55PM +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > } On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:11:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > [...] > } First convince me that object oriented programming results in > } maintainable and debuggable code,

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 10:06, Mike Mueller wrote: > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I do have to ask this one: It's possible to write > > non-braindamaged code in C++ without learning C first? > > Yes. But I think it's more fun to learn OO using Python than it is using

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:32:31AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 06:21, Paul Johnson wrote: > > It's relatively easy to learn, plus everybody else in the unix world > > uses C. It's portable. It helps to know your history: C was created > > to write unix to begin with. > > T

Gallant IV-550 TV Tuner support

2003-08-27 Thread Ronald Castillo
Hello. I'm planning to buy over eBay a Gallant IV-550 (or IV-560, I'm not sure) TV tuner card. I was wondering if anyone had tried using this card on Debian and what was the result. Also, I was wondering if there is any Linux program similar to More TV for Windows. Please CC replies to me directl

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-27 Thread Chris Wilcox
First post folks so I'm unsure if we top post or not round here but everyone else seems to so I'll join in! :) It took me weeks of searching and asking of questions to a knowledgable friend before I even got close to understanding iptables. Although it's Red Hat based, I wrote up most of what

Re: mounting a label segfaults?

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Fink
Hi Darin, I'm not on debian-user and I don't even use debian, but I ran into the same problem and thought I'd pass on what I figured out (I ran across your post while googling). On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Darin Strait wrote: > Running 2.4.21-2-686 and tracking unstable. > > Every few months, I try re

NAV hat einen Virus in einem Ihrer Dokumente gefunden

2003-08-27 Thread MAILSRV
Wenden Sie sich an den Systemadministrator. The infected component in the scanned document was deleted. Violation Information: The attachment application.pif contained the virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was deleted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Kernel Upgrade Problems

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Neillans
Nick, >> When I tried insmod 8139too (the module for the network card), I get a >> number of unresolved symbol errors. > >What happens if you 'modprobe 8139too'? That one made me think - the error indicated that it could not find the hardware. Did an lspci and noticed that the kernel had not det

Re: start program in ssh command line?

2003-08-27 Thread captain kierkegaard
i would request an xterm and have mutt start up in that. it lets you sleep mutt and get to other things on the box. ssh -X -l xterm -e mutt Matt Price wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:54:00PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:26:37PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Alan Shutko
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C is easily the dominant language for most things Linux. So therein > lies the question. Why, exactly, is C so popular? Especially in > comparison to C++. The free software culture started much before Linux. Much free software was written to run on

Adaptec 2400A anyone got this working?

2003-08-27 Thread Juris Smits
Hi everyone, I have Debian (woody) 3.0r1 running latest kernel-image 2.4.21, and I can't seem to get my Adaptec 2400A RAID adapter to be seen. When I'm trying to load dpt_i2o module all I get is Using /lib/modules/2.4.21-4-686-smp/kernel/drivers/scsi/dpt_i2o.o /lib/modules/2.4.21-4-686-smp/ker

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:42, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > But the point is that it can easily be done, and often is, to get that > > extra feature, or reduce the SLOC by a dozen or so, or to speed it up a > > little bit. > > The only one of my packages that makes any system calls i

Re: ircII behind proxy/firewall - how?

2003-08-27 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 15:55, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:02, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > > My connection to the net is via a proxy server. It also appears port 6667 > > on the same machine is blocked. Just wondering, is it possible to use > > ircii chat client from be

Re: xferring files from window

2003-08-27 Thread gaspard
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > How are you trying to transfer these files? Filenames with spaces work, > they just require more quoting or backslashes: cp /mnt/win/file\ with\ spaces /home/user/ Gaspard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:27:50PM +0200, Elie De Brauwer wrote: [...] } I agree, but when it comes to documentation c is the absolute top. man } strchr, man strlen, man strcmp, man sin, man cos it's all in the manuals } but try do get a description from some of the functions from the C++ STL } out

Re: Jabber and transports

2003-08-27 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:42:07PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: | I've tried installing the AIM transport from agrogeomatic.educagri.fr | (from their listing on apt-get.org). Following aim-transport's | instructions, I added it into the jabber.xml the way it tells you to, | and I can see it when I q

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 04:06, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 3:59 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:15, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > > > Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:11:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > I

Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them

2003-08-27 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 11:12:24AM +0200, Stefan Waidele jun. wrote: > Since there is no reaction to my private mail, I have to do this publicly. > > Kevin Mark uses my domain 'waidele.info' in order to fake his from-adress. > I have asked him to stop it, but he still continues. > > So once again

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 07:53:34PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 19:35, Britton wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:25:55AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > > This just isn't true. Perl at least is brought to its knee

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:43:55PM +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: } On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:11:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: [...] } First convince me that object oriented programming results in } maintainable and debuggable code, then convince me that C++ is a good } implementation of OO, an

Re: Jabber and transports

2003-08-27 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:42:07PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > I've tried installing the AIM transport from agrogeomatic.educagri.fr > (from their listing on apt-get.org). Following aim-transport's > instructions, I added it into the jabber.xml the way it tells you to, > and I can see it when I q

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:17, Dave Howorth wrote: > >>> Unfortunately, nowadays "s/C /Perl /". > >>Wouldn't it be easier to read if you wrote it s/C/Perl/ ? > > So that it wouldn't change Choo-choo to Perlhoo-choo. > > When I saw the question, I thought the obvious counter-example was so > that i

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:20:16 +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > First convince me that object oriented programming results in maintainable > and debuggable code, then convince me that C++ is a good implementation of > OO, and then I might consider C++ instead of C. (I know not all the > features of C+

Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 05:42, bob parker wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:46, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 17:22, bob parker wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:25, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > I particularly like the way it deletes the most significant figure(s) > > > when you get

Re: Debian security prb

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:03:26AM +0200, Fr?d?ric Aliotti wrote: > I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rl "Woody" Official i386. > I'm trying to use an application called Cyberdocs on this computer : this > application have to open OpenOffice.org to convert word documents to XML. > This proces

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:50:11 +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > While I haven't learned much C yet (I can read it better than I write > it), I do have to ask this one: It's possible to write non-braindamaged > code in C++ without learning C first? Of course it is -- it's just more difficult :-) -- B

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:00:24 +0200, Loren M Lang wrote: > 2) C is just faster than C++ This is simply not true. If you know what you're doing, you can write efficient C++ which is just as fast as C. C++ was designed in a way that doesn't make you pay for features you don't use. > Even when I'm w

Re: ircII behind proxy/firewall - how?

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:02:34PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > My connection to the net is via a proxy server. It also appears port 6667 on > the same machine is blocked. Just wondering, is it possible to use ircii chat > client from behind a squ

Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-27 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 8:35 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > Knoppix doesn't. Granted, the only transparent way of transitioning > is to sid, but still. Still it's not totally transparent. Some problems exists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-27T11:27:15Z, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While I haven't learned much C yet (I can read it better than I write it), > I do have to ask this one: It's possible to write non-braindamaged code in > C++ without learning C first? Absolutely. In fact, it's probably a good id

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-27 Thread Murray J. Brown
Bret, I will address your question, but first: before delving into constructing your own iptables rules, I suggest you seriously look at might want to look at what some of the firewall tools can do for you unless you really understand what you're doing. I suggest you look at Shorewall and Bastill

PCMCIA please help

2003-08-27 Thread debjan
Contents: A) My Problem B) My System / Hardware C) Symptoms D) Program Outputs / Configuration Files E) Syslog F) What I tried G) Kernel Configuration -- A) My Problem I try to run an Edimax cardbus fast ethernet card with David Hinds pcmcia package. It is not listed in /etc/

Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-27 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:12:15PM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > > # A: I was pretty much hounded into providing it. I do not like it. > > #Don't use it. Use /etc/network/interfaces,

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Mueller
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 07:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > I do have to ask this one:  It's possible to write > non-braindamaged code in C++ without learning C first? Yes. But I think it's more fun to learn OO using Python than it is using C++. And now to over-analyse the term "brain-damaged". Mi

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-27 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 3:59 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:15, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > > Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:11:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > [snip] > > > I think we're stuck with C and C++, so why not try to use them as wel

NAV hat einen Virus in einem Ihrer Dokumente gefunden

2003-08-27 Thread MAILSRV
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2003-08-27 Thread debian
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Re: kde 3.1.3 stable and koffice

2003-08-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- Rudy Gevaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:33:51PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > > I know this will not help much, but the kde debs in the sid tree are > normally > > up to date. I am running kde 3.1.3 and koffice 1.2.92-1 on my computer. > These > > are as u

Re: ircII behind proxy/firewall - how?

2003-08-27 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:02, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > My connection to the net is via a proxy server. It also appears port 6667 > on the same machine is blocked. Just wondering, is it possible to use ircii > chat client from behind a squid proxy? Is there such a thing as irc over > http? run

Re: freqtweak bug?

2003-08-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:07:36PM +0100, Tim Beauregard wrote: > Is this a bug? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ freqtweak > freqtweak: relocation error: freqtweak: symbol _ZTV10wxListBase, version > WXGTK_2.4 not defined in file libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0 with link time reference > > I'm too newbie to tell if

mkcdrec not bootable

2003-08-27 Thread davidhong1999
i am using woody and mkcdrec v7.3. i run thru the "make test" and managed to create an iso image. after i burn the image into a CD, my problem is the CD is not bootable. i have been trying for more than 20 hrs and searching for any doc or hints. yet, no luck. anyone has the same problem with mkc

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