Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Also sprach David Fokkema (Sun 03 Aug 02003 at 08:26:11AM +0200): > On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:31:10AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Travis Crump ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > > >What's worse is that so far noone's told me h

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:18:27PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:32:50 -0500 > Jesse Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, either way, once your fingered as a kiddie porn distributer, > > I'm assuming that your reputation is ruined. Its the Western's world > > equiva

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 03:53:39PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:17:05 +0200 > David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Friendly configured, in my point of view, means that mailing lists are > > whitelisted. Or do you mean that you really send mail to 3 'new' persons > > a da

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 05:25:05PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > Well, I am led to believe that most spam doesn't have a valid reply > > address. > > You are misled. Much of it has a very valid reply address: mine. That really sucks. Sorry to hear that, :-( David -- To UNSUBS

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 04:31:10AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Travis Crump ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > >What's worse is that so far noone's told me how two people using C-R > > >ever > > >*start* communicating. Person

Re: Linux firewall vs Windows and Hardware based firewalls

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:19:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:33:21PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > Why Sid? > > It's a home network and I'm a member of the lunatic fringe? Ah, well that explains it, :-) David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Linux firewall vs Windows and Hardware based firewalls

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:16:54PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:04:50PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > How large is the risk? If someone is able to crack your firewall box, how > > much more trouble is it to crack your DNS/DHCP/Squid server? > > That has too many variab

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 04:47:23 +0100 "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And this is more legitimate than you scanning the messages yourself, and > adding the addresses to your whitelist or spamlist, appropriately, how? The fact that it would be on the order of .01% or lower of all mes

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Travis Crump
Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 02:40:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. reportbug isn't bad, but it requires a mail server (or a mail account). Well, considering so many other things require an MTA (cron, anacron, at, most MUAs), and exim is part of the base system, why don'

nVidia questions

2003-08-02 Thread Bradley Alexander
I have been having some problems on my workstation at home for a few weeks now, and I'm not sure any more where to look. At first, I thought (and I'm still inclined to look in that direction) that it was a Gnome problem. I have always had abyssmal luck with Gnome, I tried the desktop back in the da

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 02:40:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yeah. reportbug isn't bad, but it requires a mail server (or a mail account). Well, considering so many other things require an MTA (cron, anacron, at, most MUAs), and exim is part o

Re: Accidently uninstalled KDE

2003-08-02 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 07:25:19PM +0200, Christophe Courtois wrote: > I know this problem :-) I suppose this is KDE3. > The second time, I was fed up with this dependency problem, and each time > I use dselect, I make a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status to make a rollback > if I forget to type Ct

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:05:12PM +0200, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > AFAIK, the bug database doesn't have a web interface to submit bugs > (which would be cool) > > Is there any plan to extend the bug tracking system? No, because reportbug exists

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.)

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 05:13:26AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:57:30PM -0700, Alan Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 31 16:34:18 2003 > > > Spam is UCE (unsolicited commercial email)

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:45:43 -0700 Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know what they call people who pass judgement on things that they > are ignorant of? > Alan Yup, that's about the gist of it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:32:50 -0500 Jesse Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, either way, once your fingered as a kiddie porn distributer, > I'm assuming that your reputation is ruined. Its the Western's world > equivalent of leprosy. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal > concept,

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:38:58 +0200 David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, tmda works around this. If you send a mail, the receiver is > whitelisted because you kindof expect a reply. Which is done how? See the problem here? > > Now tell me how much legitimate mail you've lo

Re: How do I log onto anonymous ftp ?

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 04:44:20PM +0100, David selby wrote: > NcFTP 3.1.3 (Mar 27, 2002) by Mike Gleason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). > Could not connect to 216.37.46.132 -- try again later: Connection timed > out. The site is down. > I don't th

Re: Film Editting

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 12:27:56AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Note, however, that to use glav to edit the file must be in MJPEG > format. And there are a lot of AVIs created with seemingly gratuitously > incompatible codecs that all call themsel

Re: Meta: Scoring debian-user with mutt?

2003-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 05:29:48PM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: } I'm a tad curious how people use mutt (or any other MUA) with scoring to } handle the vast amount of email that passes through this list. Threading, and convenient keystrokes for delete-subtread and undelete-subthread (I happen to like

Re: Q on NYT article on the cost of Spam

2003-08-02 Thread Michael D. Crawford
on Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 06:53:45AM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> The question nobody(?) seems to answer is why spam at all: it has to > be that doing it gets you money. Can anybody answer that side of it? You have to realize how cheap spam is to send. In the direct mail b

Re: Linux firewall vs Windows and Hardware based firewalls

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:33:21PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > Why Sid? It's a home network and I'm a member of the lunatic fringe? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when

Re: Linux firewall vs Windows and Hardware based firewalls

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:14:12PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > In order to make it work, I didn't have to touch anything in squid's > own config, just put appropriate gateway entries in the machines' > /etc/network/interfaces and proxy entries in my browser

Re: Linux firewall vs Windows and Hardware based firewalls

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:04:50PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > How large is the risk? If someone is able to crack your firewall box, how > much more trouble is it to crack your DNS/DHCP/Squid server? That has too many variables to properly answer fo

Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.)

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:57:30PM -0700, Alan Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 31 16:34:18 2003 > Spam is UCE (unsolicited commercial email) and stopping it can only be done > with a Challenge-Response mail program, such as the one I put together. > There isn't

Re: Solved, Re: Hawking Fast Ethernet Cardbus 10/100 Woody

2003-08-02 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wrote: > >> # cardctl ident > >> Socket 1: > >> product info: "CardBus", "Fast Ethernet", "V1.0", "" > >> manfid: 0x13d1, 0xab02 > >> function: 6 (network) > > Jesse Meyer wrote: > >[I've got the same card,] FCC ID of "MQ4C2K5MX" > > [...]

Re: advice needed

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 05:47:47PM -0400, M. Kathryn Sweetland wrote: > I would like to add more memory to my generic harddrive. I think you need to learn what you're talking about first... - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :

RE: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Francisco Castellon
This topic should be dead by now. There are other questions that are other threads that are actually worth replying to in which people really need help in, instead of keeping this ridiculous email going. -Original Message- From: Karsten Self [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karsten M

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:05:12PM +0200, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > AFAIK, the bug database doesn't have a web interface to submit bugs > (which would be cool) > > Is there any plan to extend the bug tracking system? It's on the wishlist, but pretty much at the bottom of our priority list. Us

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 07:59:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:23:59 +0200 > David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm using SA. It's just that I don't mind C-R and like the general > > concept, but I see many people who's opinions I value and who's m

Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:55:03PM +0100, iain d broadfoot wrote: > > i can't see in the man page an example like the one you show, what > section is it in? > Quoting the ENVIRONMENT section: The environment for any simple command or function may be augmented temporarily by pre

Re: Exim, alias patterns

2003-08-02 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:13:44PM -0400, David Corbin wrote: | Is it possible to configure exim to treat all emails matching a paticular | pattern as an alias for particular user? for example: david* -> dcorbin? Yes. Create a redirect router (in exim4.conf) with something like the following f

tetex-bin problems.

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In sid, I've been having this problem for the last few weeks and I don't know enough about tetex-bin to figure it out. Setting up tetex-bin (2.0.2-4.2) ... warning: kpathsea: No usable entries in /usr/share/texmf/ls-R. warning: kpathsea: See the manua

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Travis Crump ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >What's worse is that so far noone's told me how two people using C-R > >ever > >*start* communicating. Person 1 mails person 2. Person 2's C-R sends off > >a > >challenge to Person 1

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 19:40:42 2003 > > > > Which is why, if you're careful, you'll want to doublecheck the > > > messages marked as spam. > > > > > > > There are no messages marked as spam. > > > > Please do your homework. You obviously do not understand C-R systems > > at all. >

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:23:59 +0200 David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using SA. It's just that I don't mind C-R and like the general > concept, but I see many people who's opinions I value and who's mails > I'd rather not send to /dev/null would not respond to a challenge, > either out o

Re: Q on NYT article on the cost of Spam

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 06:53:45AM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If you go here: > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/28/technology/28SPAM.html?hp=&pagewanted=print&position= > it tells you about the cost of spam. > The question nobody(?) seems to answer is why spam at all: it ha

Re: Blackbox theme install probs.

2003-08-02 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 10:09:15AM +1000, Adam Bogacki wrote: > (1) Is this correct ? Apparently there are only two files > in each Blackbox tarball - background image and style files. That would be correct. > Yet for my system ... > Tux:~/.blackbox# ls > backgrounds menu styles If that's

Re: sudo doesn't work

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:16:43AM +0200, Yves Goergen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > -- > Original Message from Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at 30.07.2003 05:46:47: > > > Yves Goergen wrote: > > > what i would like to do: <...> > > In the future if you would word wrap your postings to s

Linux logical volume manager - a few questions

2003-08-02 Thread Neal Lippman
I am looking at installing the lvm layer on my file server, which is presently running woody. I have two 80GB hd's, one of which presently stores my /home partition (exported via both nfs and samba to the other systems on my home lan), and another which I just installed. (Actually, there's a third

Re: clueless autoresponders (was: Kicking users)

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:36:50AM -0600, Bob Proulx ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Aaron wrote: > > > I got a message from the Trend SMEX Content Filter that said the > > > message had been archived due to "sensitive content," but it hadn't > > > > That "content filter" is r

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:05:12PM +0200, Diego Calleja García wrote: > AFAIK, the bug database doesn't have a web interface to submit bugs > (which would be cool) Why? > Is there any plan to extend the bug tracking system? More than likely, in useful ways. > What about migrating it to somethi

Re: Permissions denied when enabling DMA

2003-08-02 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:00:56PM +0200, Wayne Gemmell wrote: > running hdparm /dev/hdc yields >using_dma= 0 (off) The kernel didn't enable DMA on the interface the drive is connected to. > while running hdparm -i /dev/hdc yields > DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma

Re: Getting man pages in color

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:31:25AM +0800, Robert Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 28 Jul 2003 02:44:23 +0300 > Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do I get man pages to show in color? > > used to have it on mandrake at one of the workplaces but never figured > > out how to enab

Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:39:38AM -0700, Alan Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I'm trying to figure out why my memory footprint is so large when I am running > NOTHING! > > Running Debian with a 2.4.19 kernel > > > 08:23:37 up 57 min, 3 users, load average: 0.51, 0.15, 0.05 > 18 pro

Re: Newbie question on partitioning (primary/logical drive ?)

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 10:46:00PM -0400, ThinKer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello all, > > I am in need of some Newbie help. If this is the wrong list, can > someone please tell me the correct list on which to post these > questions. (BTW - I've read the installation manual on this a couple of

libperl-dev

2003-08-02 Thread Bill Moseley
Why does it seem like libperl.a is in the wrong place? I'm running testing. ii perl 5.8.0-18 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report ii perl-base 5.8.0-18 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister. ii perl-doc 5.8.0-17 Perl documentation. ii perl-m

Re: installing a Debian system on a 2nd hdd while booted off thefirst

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 19:04, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I've described a chroot install at > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall > > This is now largely incorporated into the current Debian installation > manual as "". > > Answering the proc issue in a reply on this thread, it'

Re: RealTek 8139 Problems

2003-08-02 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 06:02:58PM -0400, Robert Tilley wrote: > When I installed my system with the Debian 3.0 CD, kernel 2.2.0 was installed. > I selected to install the RealTek 8139 drivers and my NIC has been > functioning perfectly. > > I've attempted to install 2.4.19, 2.4.21, and 2.6.0-t

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread aradorlinux
El Sun, 3 Aug 2003 02:40:44 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: [I'm also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] guy; BTW. Trying to avoid antispam systems for my ISP] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread aradorlinux
El 02 Aug 2003 17:48:45 -0500 Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Personally I find reportbug plenty easy enough. Though for a web > interface, I'd think it would be quite easy to write a web front-end for > reportbug. Then again, it would be about as easy to write a web > front-end fr

Solved, Re: Hawking Fast Ethernet Cardbus 10/100 Woody

2003-08-02 Thread cls-du
I wrote: >> # cardctl ident >> Socket 1: >> product info: "CardBus", "Fast Ethernet", "V1.0", "" >> manfid: 0x13d1, 0xab02 >> function: 6 (network) Jesse Meyer wrote: >[I've got the same card,] FCC ID of "MQ4C2K5MX" > [...] under the 2.4 debian kernel, I have > got the card to work, but onl

Re: cyrus + sieve vacation

2003-08-02 Thread Marcus Schopen
Marcus Schopen wrote: Hi, I'm using the cyrus-imapd 2.1.13-0 woody backport from Henrique de Moraes. Could someone send me an example for a vacation configuration with sieve? The following Eintrag in default does not work require "vacation"; vacation :days 7 :addresses "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:22:19PM +0100, iain d broadfoot wrote: > * Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Package: bash > > Version: 2.05b-8.1 > > > > According to my understanding of the manual page, > > > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" > > > > Should have print abc. But it doe

Re: installing a Debian system on a 2nd hdd while booted off the first

2003-08-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 03:17:39PM +0200, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hey folks, > > This may be trivial, but I could not find definitive information on > this. I know about debootstrap, but I was wondering how I would go > about to install Debian onto a second harddrive from wit

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 05:48:45PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > Personally I find reportbug plenty easy enough. Though for a web > interface, I'd think it would be quite easy to write a web front-end > for reportbug. Then again, it would be about as easy to write a web > front-end from scratch

Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread iain d broadfoot
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:22:19PM +0100, iain d broadfoot wrote: > > * Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Package: bash > > > Version: 2.05b-8.1 > > > > > > According to my understanding of the manual page, > > > > > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:17:05 +0200 David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friendly configured, in my point of view, means that mailing lists are > whitelisted. Or do you mean that you really send mail to 3 'new' persons > a day? Or do you send bulk email? I guess I misunderstand you... 3 ne

Re: web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 16:05, Diego Calleja García wrote: > AFAIK, the bug database doesn't have a web interface to submit bugs > (which would be cool) > > Is there any plan to extend the bug tracking system? > > What about migrating it to something like bugzilla? > (http://bugs.gentoo.org has it

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:06:22 +0200 David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that, :-) However, Steve was telling how much time he invested in > manually downloading and checking keys because of problems. I was > responding to that. Of course I am going to take a few steps. I have a ve

Re: advice needed

2003-08-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 17:47, M. Kathryn Sweetland wrote: > I would like to add more memory to my generic harddrive. I need info > on installing and how to order thanks katie Hello new user, I am unsure if your want to upgrade your harddrive to increase your storage or you wish to increase your RAM

Bind9 on Woody - "Bad dotted quad"

2003-08-02 Thread John M. Purser
I've installed the bind9 package and tried to configure it to work with my little internal network. When I start it up I get an error message telling me "bad dotted quad" saying it's from the zone configuration file for my network which uses the 192.168.0 network numbers. When I replace this with

Meta: Scoring debian-user with mutt?

2003-08-02 Thread Jesse Meyer
I'm a tad curious how people use mutt (or any other MUA) with scoring to handle the vast amount of email that passes through this list. Thanks, Jesse Meyer -- icq: 34583382 / msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / yim: tsunad "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > Well, I am led to believe that most spam doesn't have a valid reply > address. You are misled. Much of it has a very valid reply address: mine. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Blackbox theme install probs.

2003-08-02 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, (1) Is this correct ? Apparently there are only two files in each Blackbox tarball - background image and style files.

Re: RealTek 8139 Problems

2003-08-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 17:02, Robert Tilley wrote: > When I installed my system with the Debian 3.0 CD, kernel 2.2.0 was installed. > I selected to install the RealTek 8139 drivers and my NIC has been > functioning perfectly. > > I've attempted to install 2.4.19, 2.4.21, and 2.6.0-test2. During

advice needed

2003-08-02 Thread M. Kathryn Sweetland
I would like to add more memory to my generic harddrive. I need info on installing and how to order thanks katie

Re: RealTek 8139 Problems

2003-08-02 Thread Donald Spoon
Robert Tilley wrote: When I installed my system with the Debian 3.0 CD, kernel 2.2.0 was installed. I selected to install the RealTek 8139 drivers and my NIC has been functioning perfectly. I've attempted to install 2.4.19, 2.4.21, and 2.6.0-test2. During a menuconfig, I specify the RealTek 8

RealTek 8139 Problems

2003-08-02 Thread Robert Tilley
When I installed my system with the Debian 3.0 CD, kernel 2.2.0 was installed. I selected to install the RealTek 8139 drivers and my NIC has been functioning perfectly. I've attempted to install 2.4.19, 2.4.21, and 2.6.0-test2. During a menuconfig, I specify the RealTek 8139 drivers to be ins

Re: VIM - no syntax highlighting on console

2003-08-02 Thread Johann Koenig
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:20:06 +0200 Jaque Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there is no syntax highlighting on console, only under xterm. > > syntax on is enabled in global vimrc. > > where should I dig further? > > what information do you need? In command mode (in VI), type ":syntax on" and

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > What a lot of people don't understand, is that CR programs protect THEM. > With a regular spamblocking program, anyone can use YOUR address and cause > How wwould you like it if someone sent kiddie porn to a thousand people and > used your address in the F

Discussion of Challenge/Response

2003-08-02 Thread Johann Koenig
Because this topic is getting somewhat out of hand, and is being discussed in various threads, I thought I would try and consolidate it, if only to make it easier for the regulars who aren't interested to ignore one thread, instead of several. Brief summary: There are several ways of dealing wit

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Johann Koenig
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 20:40:07 +0200 Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which is why, if you're careful, you'll want to doublecheck the > > messages marked as spam. > > > > There are no messages marked as spam. > > Please do your homework. You obviously do not understand C-R systems > at

Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread iain d broadfoot
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Package: bash > Version: 2.05b-8.1 > > According to my understanding of the manual page, > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" > > Should have print abc. But it does not: > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" > > $ > > What am I missing?

web interface to submit bugs

2003-08-02 Thread Diego Calleja García
AFAIK, the bug database doesn't have a web interface to submit bugs (which would be cool) Is there any plan to extend the bug tracking system? What about migrating it to something like bugzilla? (http://bugs.gentoo.org has it and seems to work pretty well) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 13:17:11 2003 > > > > On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > > > > It seems to me, if you can automate C-R, then spammers can too. Or do y= > ou have to verify that your a 'legitimate organization' to some sort of cer= > tificate authority to get the softw

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:34, David Fokkema wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:36:57PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:23, ScruLoose wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > (anyone knows of a trick to automatically whitelist all > > > > correspondents on debian-user? ;-) > >

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:36:57PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:23, ScruLoose wrote: > [...] > > > (anyone knows of a trick to automatically whitelist all > > > correspondents on debian-user? ;-) > > Yes: those nice spammers have just the tools you want... Maybe I s

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:23, ScruLoose wrote: [...] > > (anyone knows of a trick to automatically whitelist all > > correspondents on debian-user? ;-) Yes: those nice spammers have just the tools you want... -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread ScruLoose
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:23:59PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:13:37AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:14:27 +0200, David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > I'm sorry you have objections to C-R systems. But hey, it's your > > > right to

Re: Question about SCSI IMMED flag in cdrecord!

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 01 August 2003 04:36 pm, Rthoreau wrote: > Hi fellow Debian users. > > I have been pulling my hair out the last three days because every > time I tried to burn an ISO in cdrecord it locked my system solid. > Had to do a hard reset. After po

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:06:25AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > I am REALLY sick of ignorant (or disinformational ) posts like this one. I am REALLY sick of posts like your one. > The argument to the X-CR header is a password. A unique password to the > transaction. And then the address is whitel

Exim, alias patterns

2003-08-02 Thread David Corbin
Is it possible to configure exim to treat all emails matching a paticular pattern as an alias for particular user? for example: david* -> dcorbin? thanks David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VIM - no syntax highlighting on console

2003-08-02 Thread Jaque Moreau
there is no syntax highlighting on console, only under xterm. syntax on is enabled in global vimrc. where should I dig further? what information do you need? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hawking Fast Ethernet Cardbus 10/100 Woody ?

2003-08-02 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've got a Cardbus 10/100 NIC from Hawking. > > # cardctl ident > Socket 0: > product info: "3Com", "Megahertz 3CCFEM556", "LAN + 56k Modem", "" > manfid: 0x0101, 0x0556 > function: 0 (multifunction) > Socket 1: > product info: "CardBus", "F

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:36:35 -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Depends on what you call "false positives." I don't accept > > anonymous email. Period. > > Through the last couple of decades, both in my busin

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 03:01:10PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:57:30 -0700 > > If any mail comes to me from an email address or domain that isn't on my > > pass list, it goes to /dev/null and an auto-response is sent to whatever > > return address the sender supplied. > >

Apache character encoding problems

2003-08-02 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
Hello. I'm trying to migrate one web server to one Debian box, and almost everything works... Except for one little problem. This server hosts sites in different languages, and it seems that only the ISO-8859-1 languages are being shown correctly (Spahish, English, Portuguese, Italian, etc). All

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:52:30AM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > Also sprach David Fokkema (Sat 02 Aug 02003 at 05:20:34PM +0200): > > > > > > What did people think about the debian mailing lists subscription > > mechanism? > > Mailing list subscription is an entirely different animal. It

kde v3x: konqueror crashing ???

2003-08-02 Thread Michael D. Schleif
I am running testing. I have followed the instructions here: I had quite the trip! I had a previously torqued kde install, and removed everything until `dpkg -l 'kd*' | grep ^i' ran clean. The only way I could get anything to install, rather

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > > It seems to me, if you can automate C-R, then spammers can too. Or do you have to > > verify that your a 'legitimate organization' to some sort of certificate authority > > to get the software? That is the last thing anyone wants. > > The argument to

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:13:37AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:14:27 +0200, David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Then send your answer to the list. > > Had it been appropriate to send it to the list, I would have > done so. I am not going to do things I co

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 08:43:46AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:07:44 +0200 > David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only requirement (and drawback) is that other people reply to a C-R > > from time to time. If configured friendly, only one time for each new person > >

Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 08:49:36PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: > According to my understanding of the manual page, > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" > > Should have print abc. But it does not: > > $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" > > What am I missing? The "MY_ENV=abc printf" synt

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:18:01AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:07:44 +0200, David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Got your point. However, it is still a matter of principle. I > > suspect that if people didn't _really_ mind C-R, they would consider > > simply re

Re: AA Fonts broken after security update (kdelibs/wooody)

2003-08-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:03:45PM +0200, Nicolas Parody wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 12:43:22PM +0200, Nicolas Parody wrote: > > I did a security.debian.org update (kdelibs/woody) today. AA fonts > > under Kde have stopped working since then. > > Any suggestions on how to activate them again?

Problem with freeswan-modules

2003-08-02 Thread Nicos Gollan
Hi... I compiled a 2.4.21 kernel and the freeswan-modules package (2.01-1). There were no errors during compilation, but now there are unresolved symbols in ipsec.o: # modprobe ipsec /lib/modules/2.4.21-chicago-swan/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: unresolved symbol ip_send /lib/modules/2.4.21-chicag

cyrus + sieve vacation

2003-08-02 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, I'm using the cyrus-imapd 2.1.13-0 woody backport from Henrique de Moraes. Could someone send me an example for a vacation configuration with sieve? The following Eintrag in default does not work require "vacation"; vacation :days 7 :addresses "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "bin weg ...";

Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" suppose to print abc?

2003-08-02 Thread Shaul Karl
Package: bash Version: 2.05b-8.1 According to my understanding of the manual page, $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" Should have print abc. But it does not: $ MY_ENV=abc printf "${MY_ENV}\n" $ What am I missing? -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architect

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Alan Connor([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Depends on what you call "false positives." I don't accept anonymous email. > Period. > > If anyone wants me to read their mail, then they are going to have to prove > to me that the address they are using is their actual machine. (Or

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