On Sat, 07 Jun 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:20:04PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > As of now, oldstable is no longer supported (security-wise).
>
> > > I wonder whether it should
Hi,
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008, picca frederic wrote:
> In the TODO "frame" of PTS you tell to the maintainer to upgrade there
> package from policy version to version + n. Instead of pointing directly
> to the debian policy, could you link to another page with this debian
> policy + the relevant policy
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008, PICCA Frédéric-Emmanuel wrote:
> > I agree that it would be nice, but currently we don't maintain such a list
> > in HTML with links to Debian Policy sections and doing so is somewhat
> > annoying right now. I'm not sure that I'm willing to commit to doing
> > that, although I
ect, 0, 1) . '/' . substr($project, 0, 2) . "/$project";
break;
case 1:
$uri = "http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/$project";;
break;
}
header('Location: ' . $uri);
(hey, yes! heanet is back! :)
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Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:24PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Seems like garr is down, and filippo already tried to fix it
>> by pointing the red
Hi Ana,
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> 09:40 ana: please stop ranting
> 09:41 ana: and accept my decision as PTS maintainer
You might not like it, but it's how we work in such cases. For X people
against, I can find X people who agree, and in such situations, unless
you're ready t
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> A solution would be to put right after the closing “)”, but ISTR
> there's some way to specify in XSLT that one should collapse all
> spaces, or something like, which would be nicer and wouldn't break the
> logical structure of the tags in the XSL file
/mkrboot_0.96.dsc (QA
upload)
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg-www/dpkg-www_2.54+nmu1.dsc
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> months ago. The DEP that's currently under discussion is suggesting to
> use it for both native and non-native NMUs.
>
Until then I keep using 'dot'n for non-native NMUs :)
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
> Over the last few days, I've noticed that when I go to my developer
> page at http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED], the
> "icu" package shows "2(3)" as the number of bugs, indicating that two of
> three outstanding bugs are merged. In fact, there are
Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO En cette fin de nuit blanche du lundi 30 juin 2008, vers 05:03,
> Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait :
>
>> Can somebody please sponsor the following uploads?
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>>
http://mentors.debian.net/debi
Vincent Bernat wrote:
>
> Uploaded.
Nice, thanks.
Here are a couple more:
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/softgun/softgun_0.16-2.1.dsc
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xsoldier/xsoldier_1.4-1.1.dsc
TIA.
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Raphael Geissert wrote:
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> Here are a couple more:
>
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/softgun/softgun_0.16-2.1.dsc
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xsoldier/xsoldier_1.4-1.1.dsc
One more, this one is for the DPL :)
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
> The PTS page http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html>
> reports:
>
> The package has a debian/watch file, but the last attempt to use
> it for checking for newer upstream versions failed with an error.
>
> The text "an error" is an anc
1.dsc
>
>> I will upload them as soon as ftp-master is back.
>
> They have been uploaded.
Nice, thanks :)
I guess it's time I check the results of the archive wide check and file
some more reports.
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r not being
shipped in lenny than the above mentioned example.
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> Gruesse,
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And are there any plans on developing a, possibly web, interface?
Other than that, nice work :).
P.S. added some information about DEHS on the wiki page.
>
> Christian von Essen
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Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:54, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> You filed a bug against karchiver because it:
> [...]
>> * is orphaned (...); and because
> [...]
>> And because of those reasons we are preventing a package from being
&
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> DFSG:
* Social Contract
>> 4. Our priorities are our users and free software
>>
>> We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software
>> community. We will place their interests first in our priorities.
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> ones that do only have meta-packages as rdepends (CCed since these would
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Have you hard about bapase? it already takes that information into account.
>
> Gruesse,
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Can anyone please recompile the sf.wml file?
The wml is up to date, but the generated .php isn't and is causing lots of
watch files failures.
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> , which has the advantage of listing both packages I maintain and
> packages I sponsor.
Does they signature-based search work again? or did I miss something?
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ch files in a row).
I'm tagging this bug as pending and will close it as soon as all the old
data is renewed (expect it to take a couple of days).
> package ppl has "Last time checked: 2008-09-26 00:14:55".
>
> Best,
> Michael
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eone in the qa group please do the needful?
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> regards
>
> Andrew
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and there is (are?) some packages in mentors that depend on it.
The current version in the archive is not the latest and greatest one, and it
definitely needs a maintainer (it is an auth package afterall), though.
[...]
>
> Christoph
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> retitle 501946 ITA: php-openid -- php openid library
> thx
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> On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 02:43:10PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Raphael Geissert
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >> php-ope
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or 1.
Attached is the execution log of my test suite, which is now available at
http://git.debian.org/?p=users/atomo64-guest/misc-devscripts.git
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udd.pl failed test 'foo- foo 0'/tests/foo with '1'
Hi Lucas,
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> Hi Raphael,
>
> Do you know a perl implementation that works fine ?
Debbugs' (which is almost exactly the same as dpkg-dev's, differring by some bug
fixes) passes the test suite.
> I thought we were
> using dpkg-dev's pe
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > Do you know a perl implementation that works fine ?
>
> Debbugs' (which is almost exactly the same as dpkg-dev's, differring by some
> bug
> fixes) passes the test suite.
If you know about the bug fixes, why didn
2008/11/4 Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> > Do you know a perl implementation that works fine ?
>>
>> Debbugs' (which is almost exactly the same as dpkg-dev's, differring by some
>> bug
>>
to determine the age of the oldest package
in there and set that as the max age if it is greater than the default. No
prob?
^
P.S. I left some bugs that need a severity change, just to make sure something
is displayed when run.
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not RG) would allow anyone to know that if nothing happens it
won't be shipped, thereby making people react to those problems (yes, having
orphaned packages is a problem).
Please note that I'm trying to express what was expressed and discussed during
the BoF, and I apologise in advance if
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 25/11/08 at 20:42 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> The default policy is going to be: orphaned packages are not candidates in
Err
s/The default policy is going to be/The proposed policy is
>> shape for a release; but as Luk said, the severity migh
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 29/11/08 at 20:27 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > package: package.qa.debian.org
> > severity: wishlist
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > currently, mails send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are only send to the address
> > listed in
> > maintainers and to those subscrib
Hi,
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sunday 30 November 2008 10:49, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Holger your request is not really acceptable in the current situation but
> > I also think that Uploaders/Maintainers should be auto-subscribed and that
> > w
aces, and don't forget to use your intuition and have your own
opinion (as that's what people usually use to answer ;).
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Barry
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Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-11-17 20:04]:
>> I guess there are other similar scripts out there because I've seen
>> people doing some maintenance time by time.
>
> There are some scripts in the QA repository that I use
Hello,
I would like to propose something new that would partially supersede the
work done by the MIA team and that would also generate new information
somehow related to the topic of WNPP.
The basic idea is quite simple, we want to ensure that each package is
maintained as well as possible and fo
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2008-12-20, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > maintainer receives a mail with a link to a web form where he'll have a
> > list of all the packages that he maintains/co-maintains and for each
> > package he has to answer several
Responding to myself to share other details related to this idea
that I didn't want to include in the initial mail.
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> The basic idea is quite simple, we want to ensure that each package is
> maintained as well as possible and for this we nee
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Luk Claes wrote:
> I don't think sending active maintainers questionaires is very helpful.
I don't think the active/not active criteria is so easy to find out. I can
be active on dpkg while being not active on my others packages. At some
point I must recognize that I've lost i
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Enrico Zini wrote:
> I quite liked the idea of allowing to set such attributes in the control
> file because, rather than looking like someone putting their nose on how
> one maintains packages, they are a handy way to document the
> maintainer's intentions with the package, pr
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
> I like the general idea, here are a few points/questions:
>
> Have a procedure to not receive the mail in the future (perhaps making it
> possible to (manually, via email?) re-enable at some later time)
The best results are achieved if everyone part
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog writes:
>
> > The basic idea is quite simple, we want to ensure that each package is
> > maintained as well as possible and for this we need to ensure that
> > it has one or more active maintainer(s). He
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:19:26PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > The collation of all those data will give us a better view on the
> > maintenance status of each package and it could be displayed on the PTS.
> > We could also
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Do you just want to parse the list of Maintainer / Uploaders
> and leave out generic group addresses?
Yes, only real people are important and able to work. :)
> You are talking about a "passive" maintainer in the case of the Perl
> maintainers group.
N
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Mark Brown wrote:
> things. My concern with sending out the e-mails to all and sundry is
> that it's taking things too far in the initial stages of the process and
> that adding that further down the line when the system is established
> would be a better approach.
Ok. Looks
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Your main goal is to improve our detection of packages that need
> attention. (it would also help detect inactive maintainers, but even
> that has the goal of improving the quality of our packages).
Not only. One of the aspects that I like most in this
Package: qa.debian.org
Severity: normal
The scripts should be fixed to cope with "src:foo" as package assignment.
dondelelcaro: wishlist, could the BTS refuse package names with ":" in
it ?
example: 504907
it ends up creation problems further down in automated scripts that rely on
the fact t
in d.o is the error log of bts-link ;)
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I'm obviously missing) is presented in a single place.
Note that the above is nowhere near a real decision nor intention, it is just an
idea that popped up while reading your reply, but that can of course be
elaborated.
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people use the patch tag to indicate that the package is ready and
are looking for a sponsor. Should this be somehow standardised?
[4] Similar to [3], but to indicate concerns that could lead the bug to be
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I would like to formalize the idea a bit more and we could use the DEP
> process for this. I would be willing to work on the implementation once
> we agree on the process.
It looks like enough people think it might be worth experimenting.
I
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 09:31:02PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > It looks like enough people think it might be worth experimenting.
>
> Can you please back this?
>
> I've just re-read about a half of the posts in
t; - an up-to-date db of the affected packages (lintian.d.o)
>
So, what exactly should be checked? and what's the status of this proposal?
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> Comments? suggestions? complains? volunteers to run wnpp-maintenance?
> anything?
>
ping
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In any case, I think waiting a week since a package was orphaned before it
is removed should be enough time in case a package is marked as orphaned
by "mistake".
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Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:23:37PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> Lenny is now out, so I think it is time to decide how to proceed with
>> what was discussed during DC8. Is the release team still ok with the idea
>> of keeping
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> What we need to do is:
> 1) improve our ways to detect 'crap', to remove those packages from the
>archive (it doesn't make sense to keep them in unstable). We need
> safeguards to make mistakes less frequent.
> 2) improve awareness of orphaned packag
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Raphael and *,
>
> is there a list of the orphaned "testing" packages?
>
SELECT migrations.source FROM orphaned_packages,migrations WHERE
migrations.source=orphaned_packages.source;
on UDD should do it.
Output as of right now:
http://alio
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> [Raphael Geissert]
>> The idea was to leave them out of *testing*, not immediately
>> dropping them from the archive.
>
> Isn't this equivalent to stating that being unmaintained is a release
> critical bug in a package?
Yes, like
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> What we need to do is:
>> 1) improve our ways to detect 'crap', to remove those packages from the
>>archive (it doesn't make sense to keep them in unstable). We need
>> safeg
her repo outside the main debian
mirrors so that anyone could pick them up. And no, I'm not talking about
snapshots.d.n/o, although that may work as well.
>
> Cripes I have been fighting for months for gnome-libs and imlib which
> have a handful of r(b)depends between the two. Or
ze should be more than enough time to do any of both options.
>
> Perhaps removing all the orphaned leaf packages would be a good start
> though.
>
Or finding an adopter.
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Enrico Zini wrote:
> While I was writing this, I was thinking: would it make sense to call
> these tags qa::* instead of maint::*, and officially state that they are
> the tags maintained by Debian QA?
+1.
I'd like to keep the maint:: namespace for maintainer-supplied
inform
Hi,
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> I was wondering if you could consider releasing some snapshot of UDD?
http://udd.debian.org/udd.sql.gz
It's linked from http://udd.debian.org
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the way, why are the amd64 packages being tested? i386 covers even more
(not that it is a bad idea testing archs other than the "well tested"
i386).
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got about the whole story :)
>
> Another solution could be to have a way to retrive the wnpp bug for a
> particular package (let's say source package): i pass the src:pkg name
> and it returns (if any) the wnpp bugs. Probably that would be the best
> solution to my problem. Is th
Hi,
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009, Julien Cristau wrote:
> 1) http://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/mole/seedsymbols?pkgname=libx11-6
> results in:
> 500 Some python exception occured
I fixed this.
> 2) http://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/mole/seedsymbols?pkgname=libgp11-0
> doesn't find the package, while:
> libgp11-0
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> The PTS should enhance the check to do, if possible, a version
We lack the version comparison code in XSLT unfortunately. So it's not
feasible right now.
It's a simple string comparison and we rely on having the latest version
in the stylesheet.
Cheers
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> It’s a pity this can’t be inferred from the version of the debian-policy
> package, which the PTS should have information of readily available.
This could be doable yes, xsltproc is called with lots of parameters
already and we should be able to feed him
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> When you say, a “string comparison”, you mean a comparison for equality,
> I guess. Does XSLT offer at all the concept of strcmp()? I think that
No it's simply this:
and $lastv is currently hardcoded but could be fed from the script that
calls it.
Che
dards-Version that was released
N: after the date of the most recent debian/changelog entry. Perhaps you
N: forgot to update the timestamp in debian/changelog before building the
N: package?
N:
N: Severity: normal, Certainty: certain
N:
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same package
does *not* have any serious issue? or any combination of those? or should
lintian stuff be kept out of these emails?
Please take a couple of minutes and give your personal opinion.
Oh, and do it soon, since I'd like to send the first round before the next
week-end.
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> Apparently, it has not been fixed with later runs:
Whoever committed the fix forgot to update the live copy on master.
It's not updated automatically on commit.
Done now.
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would be necessary to keep a local copy of lintian in sync
with lintian.d.o's version so that they both match.
Not impossible, but doesn't feel right.
I think I agree with zack; issues should be reported or the certainty and
severity tweaked.
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e you will see #419201, which is what you
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Russ Allbery wrote:
> Raphael Geissert writes:
>> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
>>> Then how about sending a mail if one of the packages has (serious,
>>> certain) lintian errors?
>
>> Lintian currently still uses the EWI code when generating the report
>
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> I just noted that qa.debian.org shows 0 bugs for a package with 3 open
> bug reports (those bugs are already rather old, so if the bug counts are
> only updated e.g. daily they should have been counted long ago):
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidi
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:43:55AM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>
>> Gregor is in favour of sending messages even if only lintian issues
>> exist, but Lucas doesn't like the idea. What about something in
>> between? only errors if anot
Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2009-04-30, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> On 30/04/09 at 01:43 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>>> But despite all that my original question hasn't quite been answered.
>>> Gregor is in favour of sending messages even if only lintian issues
&
(s), you should consider fixing them.
> See
> http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/acr-deb...@athenacr.com.html#libflexmock-ruby
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less sourceforge decides to make that information
accessible. I need to contact them anyway to see if they are willing to
help DEHS do its stuff without messing with the mirrors.
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mentation may change at any time without further notice, provided that
the http://sf.net/foo/... like watch files keep working.
In fact, it has already changed once recently.
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.31 or greater (lenny was released
with .35), which is smarter when redirected (required by the only
sourceforge mirror that keeps the redirector working.)
Being curious, why did you access the redirector directly and not via uscan?
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Bart Martens wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 02:26:54PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> It is possible with group_id=...&package_id=... without using the
> redirector.
[...]
> I don't think we need additional info from sourceforge ; th
Bart Martens wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 02:47:58PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> Daniel Leidert wrote:
[...]
>> > Using uscan on the command line works.
>>
>> Only if it is from devscripts 2.10.31 or greater (lenny was released
>> with .35), which is
Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> Daniel Leidert wrote:
>
> [sf.net redirector broken]
>> Being curious, why did you access the redirector directly and not via
>> uscan?
>
> I found the problem, because PET currently fails on watch files
> wi
or each project.
>
"Improving" is very subjective, but I do plan to make another attempt.
There was a ticket open which tried to reach an agreement, but I can no
longer find it anywhere in alexandria.
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Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Raphael Geissert
> wrote:
>
>> "Improving" is very subjective, but I do plan to make another attempt.
>
> I find the recent changes to be a vast improvement on the old web
> interface and the old set of fea
Replying to put an end to this.
Bart Martens wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 20:33 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> So you want merkel to download three html pages every time the redirector
>> is called?
>
> Yes, three or more.
Then better make the maintainer specify the f
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