still useful. And they're less easy
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gt; Excellent work :-). I didn't see a link to the checklib script itself.
> Do you intend to release it some time? Thanks.
>
> Ganesan
>
This script ROCKS. Can we link it into the QA pages?
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Most of the obsolete GNOME 1 packages are gone. Hooray!
Removal of guikachu has been requested. Once this is processed,
this will be what's left. Packages depending on the packages are
listed below each package.
* python-gnome
-- See also #368515.
- xkeysw-config
- Maintainer [EMAIL PR
Revisiting http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2006/09/msg00013.html .
Some have been ITAed or adopted and are removed from the list. :-)
Others have been removed from Debian or removal requests filed (some by me)
and are likewise removed from the list. :-)
It looks like we could use a Korean-spe
This is the obsolete GNOME HTTP library. It is orphaned, and
has been since Auguest 2005.
The packages in Debian which depend on it are:
xmms-singit (maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED])
telegnome (maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED])
orpheus (maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED], RFAed)
digitaldj (maintainer [EMAIL
Orphaned perl libraries constitute a meaningful proportion of the
orphaned packages. Could the perl team take a look at them? Perhaps
they might wish to adopt some, and perhaps they might be able to
point to some which in their opinion should be removed from Debian
(perhaps some are obsolete or f
tim hall wrote:
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 04:57, Nathanael Nerode was like:
> ? - pydict
> ? ? - Maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ? ? - Maintainer probably MIA, last upload in 2002
> ? ? - unchanged since stable
> ? ? -- Recommendation: remove from unstable
> * gnome-pri
>From my periodic sweep, I find that these orphaned packages have
over 1000 reported popcon installs. I may have missed some.
dvipng (1211) -- ITAed.
gnome-gv -- removal request filed
gnome-libs (5259) -- GNOME 1
gnome-print (1974) -- GNOME 1
grdesktop (5488)
imlib (8984) -- sort of GNOME 1, but
Orphaned since February, no reverse dependencies, 11 popcon installs. There's
Swing support in Classpath, and Sun's Java is being released under the GPL, so
this is not the most necessary thing in the world now.
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- It's bug city, though. Needs work badly. Maybe I'll make a QA
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feel free to fix it.)
Oh, and there hasn't been an upstream release since 1999.
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Debian deliberately.)
Given the various NMUs I suspect that this one would be picked up quite
quickly,
but I'm sure nobody wants to step on the maintainer's toes
Given the presence of bugs as old as seven years, it clearly needs a new
maintainer.
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>> I don't think Craig has left debian. :)
>
> no, i haven't. i've been a bit pre-occupied with health issues over the last
> few years.
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Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:45:58PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> The maintainer appears to have lost interest in the package (last upload
>> 1999).
>> It's also his only package; he is probably
sort of hacked up version of the
alternatives system, ans so should probably be entirely removed too. There
should be a dummy package "zcode-interpreter" which is supplied by
frotz/xzip/jzip etc., and the 'alternatives' system should be used to
select a default zcode interpreter.
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e? Well, the QA committee clearly does. Without a QA committee, who
would feel comfortable doing this? If lots of people on this list would
feel comfortable, then there's no problem. If not, then maybe the QA
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Martin Quinson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the cruft package is in a rather sorry state, with no version in more than
> 2 years, and a whole bunch of easy to fix bugs. Some of them greatly
> reducing its usability while others hinder the whole debian installation
> process (interactive post-inst script).
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> moria -- A roguelike game with an infinite dungeon [#274472]
> * Orphaned 255 days ago
Really someone should be packaging the "new" GPL version. The switch from
non-free to main will require it to go through NEW processing anyway, if
I'm not mistaken. So I think the p
The page at
http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/
should either be integrated into the main qa.debian.org page,
or at least linked to from it (a la the FHS transition).
Could someone with write access to qa.debian.org web pages consider
doing this? :-)
tus.
3. Orphan all his packages and reassign to QA.
4. Remove gutenbrowser from testing.
5. Consider removing gutenbrowser from unstable.
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. His other package has *also* been NMUed
because he's been absent.
I believe he's probably MIA.
pptpd: #179808 -- "completely fails to work"
Complex solution, appears to be in progress.
request-tracker: #191165 -- command line utilities don't work
Already orphaned and maintained by QA. Not in 'stable'. I suggest total
removal unless some other package depends on it. (I can't seem to figure
out whether any do)
That's it, I'll get r-z later.
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g to ignore the bugs for these, since the X Strike Force is
doing their best.
zebra: #198458 -- segfault
Maintainer: Takuo Kitame <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Presumably just busy, what with Mozilla and all.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on debian-devel,
in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg01218.html:
This nasty behavior shows that being an officiel Debian developer
does not mean quality.
He's referring to Filip Van Raemdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uploading some packages
with
's it. Hope someone will do something useful with this.
Once these have been dealt with I'll start looking at ignored RC bugs
from August, maybe, in search of more MIA maintainers. ;-)
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from Debian. Otherwise, no apologies! There's no shame in orphaning your
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to bugs on his packages, either.
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Timshel Knoll wrote:
I have been MIA for some time but am back ... I've had a very crazy few
months organising a wedding, during which time I moved and due to
telecommunication company issues lost my internet connection :-(. But
it's all back to normal now.
Hooray! :-) :-) :-)
Gnomba has been
(Following up on
http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2003/debian-qa-200312/msg00050.html
and
http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2003/debian-qa-200312/msg00051.html)
Well, this is fun. Several maintainers appear to have returned from
whereever they were. :-) Whee! Merry Christmas to Debian, I g
Another update.
First, the reappeared maintainers (hooray!):
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Second, the new maybe-MIA entries. Apologies if any of the below are on
official, announced vacations from Debian (I haven't been able to find a
way to look up whether people are). O
Mark W. Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Last upload in April. Last before that in 2002.
Two packages in NMU versions, one never made it into testing. Lots of
*really* old bugs.
Suggestion: Orphan all his packages.
Apparently his last activity in the BTS was 28 October; maybe mail him
and ask if he needs help?
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/2004/debian-qa-200401/msg00039.html).
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appropriate bugs.
But 36 is enough that it seems like a mass-filing, so
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be removed from testing (in which case I'll send a message to -release)?
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way to filter for these licensing bugs. Perhaps "undistributable" and
"non-free". Of course, such bugs shouldn't really be necessary, since
undistributable stuff should be removed from the archive immediately, but
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Andreas Barth wrote:
>I want to support this. For example, the discussion about the total
>removal of rocks-n-diamonds is not even one week old. So, I'd like to
>wait just a bit.
Following a very long background, including long-standing consensus that the
current version of the package should not
Look at bug 209338 on yank. Maintainer has not commented.
Of his other packages, dcd is fine, modlogan is in NMU versions since September,
and trueprint has two year-old bugs.
He's not on vacation.
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o be removed from sarge.
It may be more reasonable to remove the package entirely, from
sid as well, despite the maintainer's statements of intent -- that's why
this is CC:ed to QA.
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Can we get QA consensus here and file a removal bug against ftp.debian.org?
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>Some weeks ago I separated some auxillary postgresql packages out of
>the main source tree into separate proper source packages, among them
>pgperl.
>
>pgperl is the original upstream name, so I just used it; but after it
>was uploaded, I noticed that there already was an unrelated pgperl
>package
Hugo Rabson wrote:
>Bear in mind that the principle reason for the mindi-kernel's existence is
>(or was) the nonstandard nature of Debian's kernel. The use of cramfs in the
>kernel made it incompatible with Mindi. Mindi will run fine without
>mindi-kernel, so long as your kernel is sane. Debian's k
Hugo Rabson wrote:
>Hector has already taken it upon himself to try to solve part of the source
>of this philosophical incompatibility between Debian and Mondo. Kudos,
>Hector! He is looking at rootfs, specifically - not what you're e-mailing me
>about, but still a matter for concern within Debian
aves him as a co-maintainer of kernel-patch-2.4.21-s390 and
s390-tools, which Bastian Blank is maintaining.
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good.
Perhaps someone with more diplomacy than I could do something about this,
either getting the maintainer to fix the bugs, getting a co-maintainer added
who will, or something? In the last resort, these would have to be removed
from sarge, but that really shuoldn't be necessary.
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The maintainer, James Lewis-Moss, appears to be too busy (or something)
to maintain the xemacs packages properly at the moment.
Co-maintainers and/or NMUs are definitely needed.
Volunteers? ;-)
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James LewisMoss wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:06:23 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathanael Nerode) said:
Nathanael> The maintainer, James Lewis-Moss, appears to be too busy
Nathanael> (or something) to maintain the xemacs packages properly at
Nathanael> the moment.
Nathanael> Co
Andreas Tille wrote:
>there was no upload of StarDict for a very long time. We currently hit
>upstream version 2.4.3 which is much more powerfull and not only restricted
>to Chinese-English so much more users could profit from an updated package.
>
>The maintainer seems not to care for closing RC
aps more important, what *ahem* social changes would need to be made?
Martin, perhaps you could help with this question, being both QA and DPL?
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verted and may not.
I guess there's no equivalent of oldlibs for devel or doc packages, or I'd
suggest some of those too. :-P
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sauce: Ian Jackson (surprise!)
sgrep: Orphaned
translate: Matthias Kabel -- last upload 2001
urlredir: Chris Leishman -- last upload 2001
xlispstat: Douglas Bates
xtranslate: Matthias Kabel -- last maintainer upload 2000
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>This was largely because there was no good tool to make changes to the
>overrides of just one package. However, Daniel Silverstone recently
>wrote a script, so such requests should be dealt with much more
>quickly.
That's very cool. :-)
>In any case, it's also not that removals are
>only done b
Johann Botha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. One package (ldap2dns) with RC bug open since
October -- hasn't responded to bug trail yet.
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Mattia Monga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Three packages. Last upload in October (for tkrat). No uploads in
recorded history for sleuthkit or autopsy; both are markedly out of date
with respect to upstream, and sleuthkit has ignored RC bugs plus other
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wful lot of other
bugs. :-P
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nd that's been ignored for over a month.
Also, no GPG key!
(Actually, I'd consider adopting this if I could find upstream)
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l packages, but no more (most packages
depending on xemacs21 have alternative dependencies on 'emacsen' or
'emacs21').
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Orp is very broken and has been for quite a while.
(for example, bugs 128732, 185881, 236118, 168536)
Maintainer, are you still maintaining this, or would you rather just have it
removed from unstable?
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Last upload October.
xmovie (contrib) has been pretty seriously ignored -- notably bug 140474,
but also all the others. :-p Technically, it has no RC bugs, but I'm betting
that's because nobody's using it. Perhaps he'd rather drop it?
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No GPG key according to qa.debian.org/developer.php.
Last upload 2002.
Three packages:
twin: Has been seriously out of date w/r/t upstream for at least a year
(#184746)
twutils: Hasn't undergone c102 transition
gtans: comment-free bug #143999
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One package (qps), last maintainer upload in the year 2000.
This package is still a qt2 package compiled with gcc-2.95 (despite what it
says in some of the NMUs). It has a standards version of 2.5.0 and the
postinst sets a /usr/doc symlink.
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So, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html
and http://packages.qa.debian.org/
and http://bts.turmzimmer.net/
all show packages as being in 'testing' which aren't, because they were
removed on the last run.
Perhaps there's some way to schedule the (apparently daily) update of these
>Sorry, Nathanael. I'm not MIA, for example I've uploaded two
>versions of
>linux-ntfs in the last two weeks.
Glad to hear it, and sorry about the mistaken suggestion. :-) I thought I'd
checked all your packages for most-recent-upload, but I must have missed
linux-ntfs. :-/
>
See #236055. Oh, and the minor bugs too, but mostly #236055. Also,
the policy version on this package is too damn old (2.5.0).
The maintainer suggested removing it, but apparently couldn't be bothered
to actually ask to have it removed. You may remember him from the
'animals' fiasco.
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Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> Thanks, note that with this package in main, I'm able to move two other
> java packages to main... and with these two, more (and more, and
> more...) ;-)
>
> http://java.debian.net/index.php/MovingJavaToMain
May I ask how you're dealing with the architecture coordination
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>> Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, note that with this package in main, I'm able to move two other
>>> java pac
Camm Maguire wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree on removing the package. So, if no-one disagrees, I'm going to
>> reassign this bug to ftp.d.o next weekend.
>>
>
> At least some of the functionality in my 4 packages appears to be
> missing
Andreas Barth wrote:
> Furthermore, even if it is removed, non-US is
> not processed at the moment, so it wouldn't change anything.
Unfortunately non-US really does need to start being processed. Is there
anyone capable of doing that who isn't completely swamped?
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Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 07:48:20PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> Andreas Barth wrote:
>> > Furthermore, even if it is removed, non-US is
>> > not processed at the moment, so it wouldn't change anything.
>>
>> Unfortun
Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm the current maintainer of setserial. I'm in the process of
> getting it adopted (because I do no longer need it, but has not
> started that yet). But before I do I'm asking if setserial is needed
> at all today?
Probably not. If you don't remove it entirely,
Russ Allbery wrote:
>I think this package should instead be removed from the archive.
I agree. Procedure in this case is to file a bug in the BTS against the
pseudo-package ftp.debian.org titled "Please remove weblint from unstable",
and to note there that this is a request of QA, that the pack
I filed bugs against these packages. The first four appear to have
been misbuilds by the maintainers.
intel2gas
queue
robotour
maelstrom (non-free)
xmovie (contrib)
However, xmovie seems to be severely undermaintained. Does anyone know
David Martinez Moreno who can politely suggest that he eithe
Note that the RC bugs are integrated in total bug count:
I'm going to ignore the ones with no bugs for now.
Roxen seems to deserve some analysis of its own. Perhaps it could be
strongly suggested to Turbo that he drop
the entire constellation of roxen3 packages (roxen3, libroxen-*)?
xmms-
php-clamav (not filed RC bug, not in testing nor stable)
Uninstallable. Mainainter needs a wake-up call.
pcrd (1 bug, same version in oldstable as in unstable)
124-day-old copyright file problem. Maintainer needs a poke.
ninpaths (1 bug)
Might be OK to leave this.
(non-free) mush (
So there's a fair number of maintainers who need polite pokes regarding
their packages (before declaring them MIA and orphaning/removing
packages). However, I am not known for my tact.
So I wondered if anyone had devised a semi-standard "form letter" for
contacting maintainers and saying "Please
9 days. "Maintainer"
Anthony Fok ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is MIA. Remove package.
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It looks like it. I've been looking at packages which need to undergo
the C++ transition, and haven't, and most of them have him listed as maintainer.
Could someone give him a poke?
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anish]
3 popcon installs (all 'nofiles').
Bug requesting transition to libssl0.9.7 open 1 year 124 days. libssl0.9.6
removed 9 August 2005. Should be removed. OK to reassign bug to
ftp.debian.org for removal?
So, that's more than enough for now. This is all the packages ma
Christof Petig wrote:
> There is no reason for glademm to build "depend" on libgnomemm-dev! It
> simply tests libgnomemm for existance to provide a reasonable default
> version. Since these days libgnomemm is rarely used (to say the least)
> nobody would notice a missing default version.
Thank you!
now. Otherwise, has anyone been in contact with Bradley?
Not as far as I know. Email him and if you don't get a message back (quick),
take it over; since it was going to be removed, it might as well be taken
over! Leave a note on the potential removal bug so it doesn't get removed
nsor and upload please? :-?
I feel a little silly asking for sponsorship of any upload that any DD
could have written themselves in an hour -- but the fact is that no DD
*has* written it, so I figured I needed to do so.
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.
Blackbook is dead upstream and needs to undergo the C++ transition.
Screentest is actually usable.
Strongly suggest orphaning his packages.
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QA-maintained, dead upstream, last release in 1999, just a wrapper
program, only 35 popcon votes.
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Dead upstream, maintainer appears to be MIA, C++ package built with g++ 2.95
(!), "totally broken" according to some people who've tried to use it.
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Lies, theft, war, kidnapping,
Last upload in April 2004 (mova); last before that in Feb 2004 (phpix); last
before that in 2003. RC bugs in xnap, xnap-snapshot 254 days old. Important
mispackaging bug in tk-brief unfixed for over two years. Important bugs in
phpix, mueller open for over a year. (All with no reply from him
pwgen
html2wml
kdoc
Objections? Thoughts? Should some of these packages be removed outright
instead?
If all goes well with this, I'll look at the maintainers who last uploaded
in 2003, but I think those are a more complicated situation.
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ing build-depends in tkrat
344981 -- patched FTBFS in tkrat
Orphan package and make QA upload?
147187 -- xdelta fails on all 64-bit systems
Orphan package and work on QA upload?
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Last upload 2004-08-02.
sp-gxmlcpp, xpcd, and uae have RC bugs. gom is the only one which doesn't,
and it prompts without debconf.
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h these; we need the equivalent for packages
which depend on a package which existed before Nov 17, when the c2a transition
started. Such a page would be a very good idea.
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] [NONFREE-DATA:UNMODFIABLE] Non-free logo included in source
This appears to be a matter of the maintainer not paying attention, because
the non-free logo has been removed from the binary. NMU?
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bug in most cases):
aranym
chromium
csmash
darkice
fglrx-driver (non-free)
fonty
gav
gbib
im-sdk
latd
libcwd (non-free)
mailsync
mffm-fftw
mozilla
mozilla-firefox
mssstest (non-free)
povray-3.5 (non-free)
rar (non-free)
rig
snes9express
stella
verbiste
vlc
As discussed in this bug, mhash's maintainer appears to be MIA or out to lunch.
Is it OK if we forcibly orphan the package now?
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Chris Hanson wrote:
> Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>> As discussed in this bug, mhash's maintainer appears to be MIA or out to
>> lunch.
>>
>> Is it OK if we forcibly orphan the package now?
>
> What exactly do you want me to do?
The classic thing to do is to s
et: 9
relay-ctrl: 8 (7 votes)
In "non-free":
qla2x00: 6 (1 vote)
swt-pocketpc: 9
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So why isn't he in prison yet?...
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nds do, but they ought to do something similar.
> Except that
> the package now gets *no* updates instead of minimal ones.
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> Thomas
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users.
IMNSHO, packages which have no maintainer and look unlikely to acquire one
should be removed from Debian by *default*, and kept only if there's a good
reason to keep them. A significant number of users is usually a good
reason, hence the filter for packages with very few (if any) users.
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So why isn't he in prison yet?...
There are *so many* orphaned
packages that I didn't want to just start going through them alphabetically,
which was my first instinct when looking for removal candidates!
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