Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
afraid, not very convincingly. manoj -- Good news from afar can bring you a welcome visitor. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Manoj Srivastava, 2014-09-03] >> Is your position then that condes of conduct and enforcing >> harassment policies are a form of censorship? (I am congnizent that you > no, if I'd think that, I'd retire alread

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
progress toward a society of privacy." Howard Roark, in Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_ Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e amounts to welcoming speech) manoj -- When more and more people are thrown out of work, unemployment results. Calvin Coolidge Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 09:52:44AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> People associated with the FSF or those who feel i sympathy with >> them feel offended, I find it somewhat disappointing that we care so >> l

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Sep 04 2014, Christian Kastner wrote: > On 2014-09-04 01:34, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 09:52:44AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> >>>> People associated w

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
be far more simply addressed than the complex schema I seem to recall being bandied about. manoj -- The 80's -- when you can't tell hairstyles from chemotherapy. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C5

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- Executive ability is deciding quickly and getting somebody else to do the work. John G. Pollard Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: DEP-5: general file syntax

2010-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
end--->8--- Can't we just "fold" long copyright header fields similarly? manoj -- Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed. Neil Armstrong Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
notice applies to, instead f implying it applies to all files. manoj -- A little inaccuracy saves a world of explanation. C.E. Ayres Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t that a missing files: field in the headers implies that no statement is being made about which files the copyright notice applies to, instead f implying it applies to all files. manoj -- Though I'll admit readability suffers slightly... --Larry Wall in <2...@jato.jpl.nasa.gov&

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On ma, 2010-09-13 at 09:06 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Currently, one only needs to list the copyrights in the package, >> without specifying which file each copyright applies to. How is that >> specified in DEP5

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:59:34AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> >>> The current DEP5 draft says: >>> >>> * **`Files`** >>>* Required for all bu

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: >> On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> As far as I know, I don't have a single package for which a >> copyright field applies 6to all files in the source package (I might >>

Re: General Resolution: Diversity statement results

2012-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- "If I do not return to the pulpit this weekend, millions of people will go to hell."-- Jimmy Swaggart, 5/20/88 Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C pgp4RAQELkv1W.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: devotee predictable random numbers

2012-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Jun 07 2012, Touko Korpela wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 12:00:19AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> Once I get my act together again, I have devotee v 2.0 that I >> think is generally useful enough to package, since I have moved it to a >> com

Re: http://www.debian.org/consultants/ policy

2004-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
easant things about himself and then says them about other people. -- Peter McArthur Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ed no longer worry about the future. This time tomorrow you'll be dead. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Apart from money, is there any benefit to the free software community? manoj -- If I knew what brand [of whiskey] he drinks, I would send a barrel or so to my other generals. -- Abraham Lincoln, on General Grant Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
rt? In this context all I see is a rahter negative corrupting effect of money. manoj -- A friend of mine won't get a divorce, because he hates lawyers more than he hates his wife. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
igdo files or the archive, or a pay-per-bug option too. Wehn you bring money into the equation, then motivations change. The bar for NM would go up, if there was any kind of profit sharing ever. Not a good idea, this. manoj -- "The most formidable weapon again

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
"? Perceptions count. > There are a number of other open source and free software websites > which do this, it's not anything new and it certainly doesn't make > you look like a commercial website, if anything it makes you look > like *less* commercial.

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
oing Debian software work. -- John Hasler Hmm. How hard is it to introduce bugs that one would subsequently get paid to "fix"? manoj -- I'm a fuschia bowling ball somewhere in Brittany Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
porary letters. Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:41:55 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:48:38 -0500, Stephen Frost >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > This gloom-and-doom prediction is really getting

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:09:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:53:46 -0500, Stephen Frost >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > * Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >&

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
need to put up defensive rules and policies to cover ones butt. manoj -- [...] or some clown changed the chips on a board and not its name. (Don't laugh! Look at the SMC etherpower for that.) -- from /usr/src/linux/MAINTAINERS Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
a whole to have > our developers get to meet each other and work things out. How does one select which set of developers to pay? Can we afford to fly all 1000 DFD's to a common location even once? manoj -- Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat. John Lehman, Secretary of

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:12:19 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:27:15 -0500, Stephen Frost >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Perhaps not, as I said, I thought it'd be an

Re: Constant revenue source

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:25:40 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:33:14 -0500, Stephen Frost >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > * Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Re: Google ads on debian.org

2004-12-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:24:32 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> I would. Money only from donations keeps us honest -- and keeps us >> to the core of what we started out to be. Turning us into a >> busi

Re: Limiting number of post from a poster per day per list

2004-12-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland"; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Mail forwarding in return for Debian donation

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ket is in a down turn? manoj -- Love may laugh at locksmiths, but he has a profound respect for money bags. Sidney Paternoster, "The Folly of the Wise" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#321701: bug handling is a maintainers job

2005-08-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
package so that someone with more time can adopt it. Hangning on to packages you do not quite have the time to handle correctly does no one any good. manoj -- unfair competition, n.: Selling cheaper than we do. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7

Re: Bug#321701: bug handling is a maintainers job

2005-08-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
but this should be an adjunct to the bug in the BTS. Closing or turning away wishlist bugs merely because the package is too big for you is not the best solution. manoj -- When you don't have an education, you've got to use your brains. Anonymous Manoj Srivastava <[EMAI

Re: Bug#321701: bug handling is a maintainers job

2005-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
uch a script in existence, please tell me about it, I'll go to bat reopening these bugs and ensuring that the maintainer no longer shirks their duties. manoj -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas Edison Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http

Re: Bug#321701: bug handling is a maintainers job

2005-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:26:24 +0200, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> My personal choice is to forward the bug reports in the cases it >> makes sense, after triaging the report (yes, I triage rteports to >> save my upstreams time);

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n by anyone outside Debian to reflect poorly on the > Project in any substantial way. or that either. Indeed, I know this not to be true. manoj -- Optimism is the content of small men in high places. Scott Fitzgerald, "The Crack Up" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
arthritis and I don't deserve that either. -- Jack Benny Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
all the blather on the mailing list lest I lose any hope of being considered rational? Who made that rule? Can I make up a similarly silly rule about reading all possible Spam or else one is not pursuing rationale discourse? What is the substantive difference? manoj -- &quo

Re: What the DFSG really says about trademarks

2005-08-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ain. John Florio Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
software. manoj -- Honesty pays, but it doesn't seem to pay enough to suit some people. F.M. Hubbard Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hipped is software. > We ship license texts, images, and all sorts of other things. Software versions thereof, of course. manoj -- Recursion n.: See Recursion. Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- X-rated movies are all alike ... the only thing they leave to the imagination is the plot. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
so people shall get CC's if they set it. If they say something in the body, since it is not automated, it depends on whether I notice it, and am inclined to do them the favour or not. It's a crap shoot. manoj -- "Rage is a wind that blows out the candle of reason.&quo

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 13 Mar 2006, Benjamin Seidenberg uttered the following: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> I guess it is time to move to a more capable MUA, no? >> >> manoj >> >> > How many Joe/Jane users do you think can handle the complexity and > different paradig

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 13 Mar 2006, Matthias Julius told this: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It is unacceptable to people who want a CC? They are the ones >> asking for a favour. If they want a special treatment, different >> from the default mailing list polic

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 13 Mar 2006, Margarita Manterola stated: > On 3/13/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 11 Mar 2006, Benjamin Seidenberg stated: >>> Thunderbird, as well as many other MUAs doesn't allow you to set >>> arbitrary headers, including M-F-T. &

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 14 Mar 2006, Matthias Julius spake thusly: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If I notice the request, and don't feel disinclined, I may add a >> CC. My "consideration" for their handicaps stops when such >> consideration turns o

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 15 Mar 2006, Matthias Julius verbalised: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I do know how to use Gnus, thanks. > > I am sorry if I have insulted you. I did not want to suggest you > don't know how to use your MUA. But, how do I know?

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 15 Mar 2006, Wouter Verhelst stated: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:22:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 13 Mar 2006, Margarita Manterola stated: >> >>> On 3/13/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> On 11 Mar 2006, Benjamin Seiden

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hether the process is public or private, so sending the original mail to a public list was an error. manoj -- "I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!" Royal Floyd Mengot (Klaus) Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivast

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 16 Mar 2006, MJ Ray spake thusly: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On 16 Mar 2006, Christoph Berg stated: >>> I for myself would very much prefer the rumors, and maybe even >>> publically spreading (leaking?) the word on irc than to deliver >>&g

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ght is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. Ramsey Clark Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
popularity ought not to be the deciding factor. If needed, get the domain experts into the picture, and selct the technically correct, or optimal, solution. Letting the random joe vote on it is the wrong thing to do. manoj -- Many receive advice, few profit by it. Publilius

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
really. manoj -- Most Texans think Hanukkah is some sort of duck call. Richard Lewis Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
uch. manoj -- It is Texas law that when two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t class members? The solution is not to dilute the franchise, the solution is rather to induct all trustworthy significant contributors commited to the project as full members. It has never been about work -- else upstream authors doing all the heavy lifting should be the ones voting

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 4 Apr 2006, Henning Makholm verbalised: > Scripsit Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On 3 Apr 2006, Wouter Verhelst outgrape: > >>> I don't have any problems per se with non-DD contributors being >>> allowed to vote on matters of purely techni

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
at they do not sabotage the project. Trust. Commitment. Responsibility. manoj [0] temporary foreign workers working for a local company in the country to continue to do the job they did for the same company in their home country) -- wolf, n.: A man who knows all the ankl

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ld really be appreciated. manoj -- QOTD: "It was so cold last winter that I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB

Re: what are developers ?

2006-04-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
oading trojans, hijacking packages, and various and sundry mayhem. We just trust them not to (with a big stick after any infractions). manoj -- Marriage, n.: The evil aye. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 496

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
contributor to Ubuntu, I think. She should get Ubuntu voting rights. manoj -- I just ate a whole package of Sweet Tarts and a can of Coke. I think I saw God. Hathrume Duk Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B49

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t to abuse upload privileges, then I certainly do not want to see them get a say in deciding how we conduct the project's business. Eiether we trust them, in which case we should induct them in as full members, or we don't, and in that case they do not get to vote.

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
lity, and with responsibility comes the requirement of assurances that the person can handle the responsibility. manoj -- Decision maker, n.: The person in your office who was unable to form a task force before the music stopped. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http:/

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 6 Apr 2006, Lars Wirzenius uttered the following: > to, 2006-04-06 kello 15:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava kirjoitti: >> On 6 Apr 2006, JC Helary said: >>> Obviously this thread started with somebody who is a very active >>> contributor for whom it was unclear. >>

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
umbly thank the person for their contribution, acknowledge it, and leave enfranchisement off the table. manoj -- Sometimes, too long is too long. Joe Crowe Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-- The best may slip, and the most cautious fall; He's more than mortal that ne'er err'd at all. -- Pomfret Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 7 Apr 2006, Micah Anderson outgrape: > On 2006-04-06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 6 Apr 2006, Benj. Mako Hill told this: >> >>> >>>> And maybe I'm too heavily steeped in Debian culture to take an >>>>

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
in my applicants' > packages (which happens quite often) shows how "good" sponsoring > works... Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their sponsorship privileges away? manoj -- It is not best to swap horses while crossing the river. Abraham Lincol

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
one of my own packages. If you don't. perhaps you should consider lowering your burden so you can have time for such a basic security check. manoj -- Garbage In -- Gospel Out. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 12 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt verbalised: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this: >>> "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> [...] >>>> Plus sponsoring is a nice wa

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
The weights, currently, are 0, and 1.0. manoj -- In Mexico we have a word for sushi: bait. Josi Simon Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
help to reach that level of skill. manoj not sure if this discussion is going anywhere -- How many chunks could checkchunk check if checkchunk could check chunks? Alan Cox Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 15 Apr 2006, Raphael Hertzog uttered the following: > On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> We'll never tell that! We just tell "we trust you to maintain >>> according to our standards but since you didn't went (yet) through >>> full

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 18 Apr 2006, Panu Kalliokoski uttered the following: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 10:57:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> For instance, for voting, I think the process of establishing the >>> identity of one's PGP key should be enough. If Debian wants to &

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ness. In my opinion, voting requires far more responsibility and judgement than maintaining a bunch of packages. manoj -- Real Users are afraid they'll break the machine -- but they're never afraid to break your face. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <ht

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
set up such a voting mechanism. Collect keys, check out devotee, and you are good to go. Often, in free software, just getting up and doing things is far more successful than trying to talk other people into doing the work. manoj -- You cannot shake hands with a c

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 Apr 2006, Panu Kalliokoski spake thusly: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 08:33:02AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Often, in free software, just getting up and doing things is far >> more successful than trying to talk other people into doing the >> work. > > I w

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
people like me in a joint venture, I would be working for a set of bosses who vote. manoj -- It's always darkest just before the lights go out. Alex Clark Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B4

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
channel. OFTC seem to not have such a draconian policy, I suggest we move all Debian channels off freenode. I am CC'ing the freenode staff on this message, so they do not get blind sided. manoj -- Laughter is the closest distance between two people. Victor Borge

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 2 May 2006, Manoj Srivastava spake thusly: > I was pretty neutral about whether we should pull > irc.debian.org away from freenode, but a recent incident makes me > wonder how developer friendly freenode is anymore. Apparently, the incident of k-lining me was an errant

Re: Donations

2006-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
) by the project leader would be authorized to do so without specifying where the list f current companies so authorized is kept is better. manoj -- What you don't know can hurt you, only you won't know it. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org

Re: Donations

2006-06-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ebert." -- D. Letterman Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Donations

2006-06-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
wed -> authorized, and added allowed for the possibility of delegation. How does this sound? manoj -- Olmstead's Law: After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF2442

Re: Donations

2006-06-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
list when it uses or disposes of property held in trust for Debian. manoj -- Excellent day for drinking heavily. Spike the office water cooler. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B

Re: Donations

2006-06-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 12 Jun 2006, MJ Ray said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> How about simplifying the strictures in the constitution to >> something like this: > > That seems a substantial power transfer to the DPL, with the related > loss of scrutiny. It may not cause

Re: Donations

2006-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 12 Jun 2006, Anthony Towns uttered the following: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 08:46:48AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> === >> 5. Project Leader >> 5.1. Powers >> The Project Leader may: >

Re: Donations

2006-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
- Should we move the bit about SPI to an external no-foundation document? I would be open to that, but it would be nice if I see some indication other people agree with aj and me. manoj -- The hardest part of climbing the ladder of success is getting through the c

Re: Donations

2006-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 13 Jun 2006, Don Armstrong uttered the following: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> + property held in trust for purposes related to Debian. (See >> + §9.). Such decisions are made by announcement on a >> + electronic mailing list des

Re: Donations

2006-06-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ant risk here, and anyone serious of fraud would not be much hindered by the constitution. manoj -- My mother was a test tube; my father was a knife. Friday Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 4

Re: Donations

2006-06-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
anoj -- The oil can is mightier than the sword. -- Everett Dirksen Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ss. > But if not everyone who does d-i work has commit access (but just files patches, or does NMU's), then we are off the hook? manoj -- Nice guys don't finish nice. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t might be more expedient for SPI > to pay for some psychological therapy for Sven. :-D Amen. manoj -- "Earnestness is just stupidity sent to college." P.J. O'Rourke Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 49

Re: Donations

2006-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
------ manoj -- Whoever would lie usefully should lie seldom. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 20 Jun 2006, Ean Schuessler stated: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> We have, by and large, despite the cat-calls about cabals from the >> peanut gallery, managed to make broad decisions rationally. I >> don't think we are all in a vast conspiracy to gang up on a f

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
art of the constitution states that if I, say, do a chmod og-rwx on some file in my home dir on a user machine, that decision can be over turned? manoj -- Any vacuum cleaner would sooner take the nap off a rug than remove white threads from a dark rug. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PR

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
to decide which group ends up being the > official Debian team. This is my view, yes. manoj -- Two brothers, Mort and Bill, like to sail. While Bill has a great deal of experience, he certainly isn't the rigger Mort is. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <ht

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ill be a public access repo. So, at best, telling me to add people can, at best, be advisory; the only enforceable thing is to tell me to stop using project resources for my Debian work. manoj -- Inside, I'm already SOBBING! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
noj -- (Never thought I'd be telling Malcolm and Ilya the same thing... :-) Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C pgpjojY4kjLlH.pgp Description: PGP signature

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