On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:37:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> US$ 6000 is like 4.800 EUR. That's like a dayly rate of 220 EUR. Like
> a fourth of what a contractor of Andi's and Steve's expertise would
> cash in on the free market.
You're kidding, right? Others already pointed out that the origina
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:16:19PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> I, personally, do not, however, find that amount unreasonable for a
> one-month engagement as a contractor.
But then it should be described that way too.
Michael
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:44:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:37:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Just let me pick the NEW queue: Has it been stated publicly that
> > ftpmaster is going to reduce work spent on NEW due to dunc tank? Have
> > ftpmaster considered to acc
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, [iso-8859-2] Miros?aw Baran wrote:
Please stop abusing the debian-devel-announce, this is not acceptable.
I can not see any abuse of d-d-a. The mail is well thought, written
in a style that is by far less offending than todays standard and has
a major point concerning Deb
Anthony Towns wrote:
> For the record, I haven't seen any such offers, and I've been looking
> for them since May or so. (Proviso: offers should be accompanied by
> some direct evidence that whoever's offering has the time and ability
> to actually do stuff)
If at least any NEW queue package infor
First I will state my personal position. I think the original intent
and idea of the DPL - to leverage available funds to assist the process
of finishing a stable release - is a great one. Money is a tool to be
used, there's no sense letting it lie around just gathering interest.
The fact that on
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:44:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 08:37:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Just let me pick the NEW queue: Has it been stated publicly that
> > ftpmaster is going to reduce work spent on NEW due to dunc tank? Have
> > ftpmaster considered to acc
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:40:24AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> If at least any NEW queue package information was accessible, people
> could take an interest. If there's a problem with allowing access to the
> new packages themselves, cool, but there used to be at least some
> information on mer
Hi,
I'd like to thank you for putting up this email which summarize
extremely well my feelings about what's happening, feelings I haven't
been able to elaborate on in an email, out of disgust, despair and
outrage.
I'd add that the harm done by this "experiment" is already so huge
that there's un
Drew Parsons writes ("Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment""):
> The first group, the minority, believes that any use of money to
> increase the time developers spend on Debian is always intrinsically a
> bad idea.
This an oft-repeated straw-man characterisation of dunc-tank's
oppon
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 10:26:43AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > For the record, I haven't seen any such offers, and I've been looking
> > for them since May or so.
> For the record, I haven't seen a request for help issued by ftpmaster,
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/06/msg00019.html
Hi all,
I'm posting this to d-d-a since it doesn't make sense to me to answer
questions in a different forum to where they've been raised. It's already
been pointed out [0] that this sort of discussion isn't appropriate for
-devel-announce, so I'll try to keep it brief. Followups to -project
[1],
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:42:46PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> This is completely and blatantly false! The only thing that's
> different this time is the prominence of the developers involved
> relative to the prominence of the institution, and the amount of
> publicity that has ensued. (And, un
Sorry for the wording but it's way more than I can take:
On 10/27/06, Anthony Towns wrote:
[...]
> - How is the success of this "experiment" measured? (For the release as
> well as for the entire project)
An "experiment" is successful as long as it provides useful information.
What the fuc
Thibaut VARENE writes:
> Sorry for the wording but it's way more than I can take:
>
> On 10/27/06, Anthony Towns wrote:
> [...]
>> > - How is the success of this "experiment" measured? (For the release as
>> > well as for the entire project)
>>
>> An "experiment" is successful as long as it pro
Ian wrote:
> Drew Parsons writes ("Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment""):
> > The first group, the minority, believes that any use of money to
> > increase the time developers spend on Debian is always intrinsically a
> > bad idea.
>
> This an oft-repeated straw-man characterisati
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006, Drew Parsons wrote:
> I appreciate that I have simplified the grey nuances for the sake of
> establishing my point about the results of the experiment, but please be
> advised it is in no way a straw-man characterisation [1].
>
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/20
This is an edited copy of something I posted to -private yesterday. I
think it is relevant to all the discussions here, and have a few things
to add.
Back in the old FidoNet days, the policy for discussion was something
along the lines of:
Don't be excessively annoying, and don't be easily ann
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 09:40:24AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > For the record, I haven't seen any such offers, and I've been looking
> > for them since May or so. (Proviso: offers should be accompanied by
> > some direct evidence that whoever's offering has the time and
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:46:00PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Signed by:
> Jörg Jaspert, ftp-master assistant, DAM, DebConf Organizer
> Alexander Schmehl, Debian Developer, press, event manager, DebConf Organizer
> Alexander Wirt, Debian Developer
> Daniel Priem, New Maintai
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