Hi, I'd like to thank you for putting up this email which summarize extremely well my feelings about what's happening, feelings I haven't been able to elaborate on in an email, out of disgust, despair and outrage.
I'd add that the harm done by this "experiment" is already so huge that there's unfortunately no turning back, and it seems quite obvious that Debian will never be again what it was before, and that is very sad. I'm not very keen on "plot" theories, but I'd say that "had somebody wanted to kill (or inflict maximum damage) to the project, he couldn't have done any better than the current DPL". This being blattant unconsciousness and irresponsability or the result of a deliberate conscious will to harm is almost the same: it is totally unacceptable. Note: this is not a personal attack. I don't know Anthony and bear no particular opinion about the guy. But I do bear special and strong opinions about what he /did/, hence the comment. On 10/26/06, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
So, to summarize DTs effects on Debian: It has demotivated a lot of people who now either resigned, simply stopped doing (parts of their) Debian work or are doing a lot less than they did before DT was started.
I'm part of those.
The freeze got delayed and getting the release out on schedule has become nearly impossible. We are unable to see any good virtue in this "experiment".
Neither do I.
Having said all this and also risking yet another flamewar, let us make a last request for now: Please have a healthy discussion, let the DT people answer these questions, tell them (or us) if they (or we) made wrong assumptions or something, but please do not flame.
Agreed. The above comments I made in this email are not intended to start a flame. They are mere expressions of my current thoughts, and such strong thoughts can only be expressed with strong words.
Signed by: Jörg Jaspert, ftp-master assistant, DAM, DebConf Organizer Alexander Schmehl, Debian Developer, press, event manager, DebConf Organizer Alexander Wirt, Debian Developer Daniel Priem, New Maintainer Martin Würtele, Debian Developer Gerfried Fuchs, Debian Developer Patrick Jäger, User Otavio Salvador, Debian Developer Joey Schulze, Debian Developer, Security, DWN, DSA, press, promoter Felipe Augusto van de Wiel, New Maintainer Sam Hocevar, Debian Developer Pierre Habouzit, Debian Developer Julien Danjou, Debian Developer, Stable Release Manager Peter Palfrader, Debian Developer Julien Blache, Debian Developer, promoter Christoph Berg, Debian Developer, QA, NM front-desk Holger Levsen, New Maintainer, DebConf Organizer
I would totally have signed this letter too had I known about it earlier. I endorse everything it says. T-Bone PS: people willing to constructively interract with me can CC me on replies, as I'm not subscribed to the d-project m-l. -- Thibaut VARENE http://www.parisc-linux.org/~varenet/
