way to cross-compile everything from an x86 box?
Thanks in advance for you help.
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OK I am going linux crazy. I have been trying to install linux on my
mac for about a year now to no avail. The common answer I got was that
linux didn't like the combination of my rage 128 pro card with my studio
display monitor. Can anyone help me?
PowerPC G4 Dual 450
30 GB Hard Drive
896 M
David Pye wrote:
Hi,
On Friday 11 March 2005 22:33, Michael wrote:
OK I am going linux crazy. I have been trying to install linux on my
mac for about a year now to no avail.
define 'to no avail'. What did you try, exactly, and what was the problem?
spent last night downloading the Sarge live cd. tried to boot it three
times, two succesful. What happens when you pass the video=ofonly argument?
The first time I booted install and that gave me a black screen after it
said loading ram disk, but then my cd-rw drive started working so I know
what are they calling the 3.0_r4 release? I am trying to install sarge
and that is the one I am currently downloading. So the question is is
that Sarge, or just another Woody variation?
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I thank you for all your useful suggestions thus far in distributions to
get and all. In this eandevor what I am trying to accomplish is getting
an os that I ca work on that has a somewhat similar look and feel as OS
X, but based on a linux kernel instead of Darwin based on the Unix kernel.
For
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 00:27 -0500, Bryan Frechette wrote:
hi, i just install debian sarge on my mac, and it freezes on boot,
yaboot freezes and i have to pull the plug on m
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Michael wrote:
Michael wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 00:27 -0500, Bryan Frechette wrote
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Michael wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Michael wrote:
Michael wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Bryan Frechette wrote:
Benjamin Herrenschmidt
This may be a dumb question, but is it possible currently to build and
install glibc and binutils and such on debian?
My passion is towards emulation, and was totally overtaken by the
plethora of them available to unix/linux and the ones I have looked at
require such things
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Clive Menzies wrote:
On (16/03/05 07:18), Daniel E. Jonsen wrote:
I have Debian and Panther on a G4/350, but I have the luxury of having 2
internal HDs, which might be more difficult with a PowerBook. Anyway, I
first installed Panther on hdb and used Disk Utility to wipe hda cle
Jochen Voss wrote:
Hello Michael,
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:17:31PM -0800, Michael wrote:
http-equiv="Content-Type">
At least for the debian mailing lists it would be nice if you could
teach your mail program not to send HTML emails. Also see
http://www.debian.org
I managed to get Woody installed using one disk. But I have no idea
how to configure things. I ran through the ppp configuration, but the
error message ran by so fast that I couldn't read it. I didn't know
what to put into the apt sources file, which I am guessing is where to
put whatever
How crucial is a swap partition? The only think I know of it being
used for is virtual RAM memory, am I wrong? Having 896 MB of RAM I
didn't think that I would need one, but I can either use the 512 MB
chunk I left free for that, or make another larger partition available,
if this list of pe
Well, after numerous, and some not so subtle, questions about why I
don't upgrade to Sarge, I have decided to do so. Since I have not a
dime to my name right now, I have undertaken the long journey to
downloading the iso's. I am currently downloading this week's build,
and I am guessing that
I have an internal Zip 250 drive. I know a bit about master and slave,
but I have always delt with ataN-master ataN-slave wherre N is a numeral
0-9 (theoretically, only ever done 0 and 1) but cchecking the output of
my Apple System profiler in OS X it lists the ATA Device Type as atapi
and uni
Adam Done wrote:
I have been using the kernel.org kernel source and wondering if there
are source trees for the ppc like the old benh tree? I went to the
ppckernel.org page and read the different kernel builds but I am looking
for the ppc source tree.
Is the kernel.org tree the one to use or is th
I reconfig pppconfig and it worked, still don't understand it but I
worked. downloaded and compiled ncurses 5.4 so I could compile nano (a
pico clone) because I have no idea how to use vi.
I wrote a ~/.fetchmailrc but there it quits with an error. the log is this:
fetchmail: 9 messages for [EM
steinm wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 01:33:59PM -0800, Michael wrote:
I reconfig pppconfig and it worked, still don't understand it but I
worked. downloaded and compiled ncurses 5.4 so I could compile nano
(a pico clone) because I have no idea how to use vi.
I wrote a ~/.fetchmailr
When I installed ZipSlack on my girlfriend's laptop there was a thing
where you could switchc between "virtual consoles" I think they were
called. It was by pressing alt+left orr alt+right, does debian have
something like that? And if so what are the keys? And if they are the
same can I cha
since I am not able to donate anything to debian, but I do have a little
experience in porting software and preparing packages, is there some way
that I could contribute to Debian that way?
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Just a couple things, Don't know if anyone's interested, but if anyone
tries to install Debian on their mac in the future that has the
"antiquated" :_( G4 I have the problem I had with pppconfig was that I
was I guess when I configured the thing, the script wouldn't auto-detect
my modem, so I d
Well, I gritted it out and did the 2 day long aptitude dist-upgrade from
Woody to Sarge, after numerous questions as to why I didn't. The iso I
downloaded for Sarge must've become corrupted, because the cd-rw I burnt
it on wouldn't boot any kernels, apt-cdrom kept giving me read errors,
and th
Jochen Voss wrote:
Hello Michael,
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 09:11:29PM -0800, Michael wrote:
I did change my /var/apt/sources.list file, or /etc, I forget whether
it was in /etc or /var, ...
It is in /etc. All the configuration files you ever want to edit
should be in /etc.
.., and being
When I did the dist-upgrade apparently my kernel was not upgraded,
because ybin is complaining about my kernel being too old. I looked at
my kernel modules and they are still 2.4.x, so if this does mean that my
kerrnel is still 2.4 and not the 2.6 that Sarge installs by default,
what is the pr
Could someone point me in the right direction. I am totally lost on
this. I have searched and searched, and now I am totally confused. To
get this to work do I need a newer kernel? I read somewhere that
Someone having a similar problem had to recompile his kernel, and they
used a benh patc
Just a quick question. Had to redo my whole Hard Drive in order to get
OS 9 back in and bootable. But in doing this I decided to change the
keymap I used for debian to an apple_usb_keyboard. And that Solved my
virtual console problem. But then I messed up my linux system again,
and had to r
Lee Braiden wrote:
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 23:49, Michael wrote:
Just a quick question. Had to redo my whole Hard Drive in order to get
OS 9 back in and bootable. But in doing this I decided to change the
keymap I used for debian to an apple_usb_keyboard. And that Solved my
virtual console
The one thing that I have been trying to achieve since my dist-upgrade
is the kernel. I am still using the 2.4.18 stock Woody kernel. After
some searching I found the kernel-image packages in aptitude. Then
after more research actually found out how to boot an initrd kernel
image. I am tryi
Matt Price wrote:
Hi folks,
I run sid on a Blue&White G3, with my main systme booting off of a
scsi hard drive. I'd like to (finally!) move to the 2.6 kernel,
mostly to take advantage of udev, which seems very cool and which I'm
sure will be a significant help in dealing with my digital camera, us
in my /etc/apt/sources.list I changed testing to unstable and did a
dist-upgrade, that brought me to sid right? The reason I ask is because
when I did a dist upgrade from woody my login changed from Debian 3.0 to
Debian 3.1, and it is still at Debian 3.1.
The reason I did this is I am trying t
I am still unable to start my computer with video=aty128fb and X is
still complaining about no frame buffer devices, even though I have
/dev/fb1 - 9 or 8. I am utterly frustrated at this, and I have found no
help in anything I have read on line I can pass video=aty128fb argument
on the command
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 01:24 -0700, Michael wrote:
Not Sure which one that is Ben, I am new to some the jargon used on
these boards. The night before last it actually clicked in my head
afaik mean As Far As I Know, (sometimes I'm a bit slow on the uptak
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 01:24 -0700, Michael wrote:
Not Sure which one that is Ben, I am new to some the jargon used on
these boards. The night before last it actually clicked in my head
afaik mean As Far As I Know, (sometimes I'm a bit slow on the uptak
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 02:14 -0700, Michael wrote:
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 01:24 -0700, Michael wrote:
Not Sure which one that is Ben, I am new to some the jargon used on
these boards. The night before last it actually
ok I did some reading, now the 2.6.12-rc2 patch needs to be applied
directly to the 2.6.11 kernel source, right? I tried applying it to the
debian kernel-source-2.6.11 tree but some of the patch failed, and
ultimately make-kpkg failed. So I am guessing the debian tree is a
little different
vinai wrote:
ok I did some reading, now the 2.6.12-rc2 patch needs to be
applied
directly to the 2.6.11 kernel source, right? I tried applying it to
the
debian kernel-source-2.6.11 tree but some of the patch failed, and
ultimately make-kpkg failed. So I am guessing the debian tree is a
little
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 17:23 -0700, Michael wrote:
ok I did some reading, now the 2.6.12-rc2 patch needs to be applied
directly to the 2.6.11 kernel source, right? I tried applying it to the
debian kernel-source-2.6.11 tree but some of the patch failed, and
Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:44:31PM -0700, Michael wrote:
Since I am starting to compile my own kernel, and you said "you should
really be using 64bit kernels" does that mean that I should compile a
64-bit kernel on my ppc? I have the Dual 450's can th
Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:00:52PM -0700, Michael wrote:
Yes Sven you are not wrong, This is indeed an Apple Macintosh G4, so
thankyou for the clarification. And I do wish I didn't have to compile
my own kernel, but it seems the only solution to getting graphic
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
Yea vinai messaged me back because I asked if he could send me his old
kernel that had everrything working, and he told me he has it compiled
for his Mach 64 chip, and that wouldn't help me with my Rage128, but no
fears, it confused me too. When he said that the de
I compiled the kernel using the config-2.6.8-powerpc file in /boot.
There apparently is no config.gz file for Debian kernels. But I do know
the option you are talking about Ben, and the next compilation I do I
will activate it. The kernel appeared to have aty128 compiled as a
module, so I wi
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 11:02 +0100, Francois wrote:
Do a 64 bits kernel, I don't support 32 bits kernels on ppc64 machines
anymore;
Thanks for the tip. What is the simplest way to make a 64 bit kernel? I
have two options: cross compiling on my G4, or compiling
The QOTD I have today is when I use video=ofonly to get a display while
logging in, would that negate an X installation from being able to
access my framebuffer? I am supposed to use the aty128fb but currently
I cannot boot with that.
Sven, this is for you, I have compiled the 2.6.12-rc2 kern
Well I compiled the Debian 2.6.11 kerrnel tonight, and I think that I
must have done something wrong, because I can't even boot with it. It
stops at trying to mount root fs, this is previously an error I only got
when I booted an initrrd kernel without an initrd, or a regular kernel
with an in
when building the 2.6.11 kernel source I ran across an undefined
reference to 'vgacon_somethig, I know that is not specific, but has
someone come acrross something similar?
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I did apt-get update today and installed the latest version of the
kernel image 2.6.11 package, whether that is still 2.6.11-1 I don't
remember, but actually under the advice of Sven I did install the
powerpc-smp one. As I figurred on boot my sccreen goes blank while the
rest of the starrtup h
Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 10:55:49PM -0700, Michael wrote:
I did apt-get update today and installed the latest version of the
kernel image 2.6.11 package, whether that is still 2.6.11-1 I don't
remember, but actually under the advice of Sven I did install the
powerpc-sm
Horms wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote:
[snip]
Are there debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to install debian testing (sarge) on my powerbook 2400c.
As this machine has no cdrom drive I am using the net-install images -
starting up with BootX.
I have tried using the 2.6 images from:
http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-power
Thank you for your help.
Michael
>> Thanks to all who've replied. It now seems to be working (I used
>> mknod). The problem I am currently having is the message box that pops
>> up when GNOME starts saying permissions on /dev/pmu are b0rked.
>> Apparently this is an upstream bug, however.
can you please specify what you did wit
hich gets routed to
> VGA text or to fbcon (fbcon_blank()).
There's no doubt this is happening, but what fbdev function adjusts the
blanking/powerdown periods?
Michael
When I try to use the imstt driver with my twin turbo 128, X stops with:
(II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.1c, module version = 1.0.0
(EE) Driver `imstt' has no EnterVT function, deleting.
(EE) Driver `imstt' has no LeaveVT function, deleting.
(II) Unloading /u
use mknod to create the handfull of
> nodes you need.
mknod /dev/adbmouse c 10 10 should do it. BTW: adbmouse is deprecated and
should not be uses together with the new input layer. Use /dev/input/mice
(c 13 63) instead.
Michael
I turned on while installing the new card. Thanks for your responses,
> though.
That seems to indicate a SMP problem with the CUDA driver. Please report
this on linuxppc-dev.
Michael
I guess we need to check the keyboard and mouse drivers to see if they
properly use the add_*_randomness hooks. The ADB keyboard and mouse
handlers do. drivers/usb/input.c doesn't - the add_input_randomness there
is commented out (in my 2.2.18-stable copy) and marked BUG. Ideas, anyone?
Michael
> Some Mach64 based chips cause problems with 2.2 kernels so he might need to
> also use a 2.4 one or a patch from Michael Schmitz (check the -powerpc
> archives).
Or use yaboot.
Michael
s time permits.
Michael
ew glibc can be tested in a chroot environment,
kullervo could even be used for testing.
Michael
Wallstreet, try booting with yaboot instead
of BootX.
Michael
xpected...
Please try to apply the attached patch to the 2.2.18 ppc kernel source and
recompile.
Michael
--- drivers/video/atyfb.c.orig Thu Oct 19 19:49:53 2000
+++ drivers/video/atyfb.c Fri Oct 20 12:10:37 2000
@@ -3242,14 +3242,72 @@
return 1;
}
+/*
+ * Check PCI resource
> A nitpick, I know, but if there's a way to detect HID, it would be better.
Check for presence of /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/ ...
Michael
ff with it).
> The reason I'm using the fbdev driver is because the ati driver fails, the
> relevant errors are:
> (EE) ATI(0): Unable to determine dimensions of panel (ID 0).
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
There's something fundamentally wrong with your XF86Config. Is that the
only error (EE) you get?
Michael
use ati. For eariler versions r128 may
indeed be worth a try.
Regardless, discussion of X server issues is moot without having the
server log to look at.
Michael
rent:
Mode "800x600lombard"
DotClock 40.0
HTimings 800 840 968 1056
VTimings 600 601 605 628
Flags"+hsync" "+vsync"
EndMode
The hsync pulse is a tiny bit longer and the flags are different
(really?). Try your fbset generated mode in the Monitor section first, if
that doesn't help try my settings.
Michael
ow. There is a 25 step staircase of black lines that seem to be
due to the offsetting of each line, and 800/25 = 32. I'm going to have a
look at the xf source next to see what 'pitch' means.
-- Michael
The output of startx follows (sorry).
XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window Sy
r "Generic"
HorizSync 28-38
VertSync43-50
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic"
Driver "r128"
BusID "PCI:0:16:0"
Option "UseFBDev"
EndSection
-- Michael
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, M
-only
append="video=aty128fb:vmode:10:depth:8:"
-- Michael
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Christian Pernegger wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 07:19:01PM -0600, Michael Hope wrote:
> > Evening all. I'm experiencing the same thing on my blue iBook/Firewire.
> > I'm runni
what 'pitch' means.
It's what you suspect: the offset between the start of consecutive scan
lines in memory. No idea why the r128 driver would pick that pitch though.
Michael
would the X server not honor the pitch
(as it seems, from the description of the staircase effect)?
But maybe that wasn't caused by the pitch/line_len but by weird mode
settings. hsync 28-38 and vsync 43-50 still look crummy to me though.
Michael
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Quoting Michael Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > It's what you suspect: the offset between the start of consecutive
> > scan
> > > > lines in memory. No idea why the r128 driver would pick that
ce. ADB device probing is
inherently random even.
Michael
sed PowerMacs
[*]Power management support for PowerBooks
[*]Backlight control for LCD screens
-- Michael
0 does nothing useful. fblevel 0 would be equivalent
to fblevel off though.
Michael
lay. The
framebuffer driver does the Right Thing and switches off backlighting in
that case. It might also power down parts of the graphics engine ...
Michael
it's shutting down the PCMCIA socket
as part of the sleep notifier chain (again, check the source). If so,
All of this is a kernel issue, and nothing that can be changed by pmud.
Ben Herrenschmidt is probably the best person to talk to about kernel pmu
issues.
Michael
ing before I put together yet another one...
Michael
the mkofboot etc. command from the install shell
this works but Yaboot is not booted. Only MacOS.
How can I say OF to boot from bootstrap ?
and: why has MacOS overwritten the settings of the Open Firmware ?
Thanks for your help!!!
Michael
PS. Hardware: Pismo 400 / 128 MB / 10 GB
/dev/hda9
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > I also upgraded my iBook Firewire to sid, and I have the same pb as Michael
> > Hope and Christian Pernegger.
> > Pitch is also reported as 832. I tried disabling Acceleration, changing
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:
> Michael Hope wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:
> >
> > > Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > >
> > > > I also upgraded my iBook Firewire to sid, and I hav
ption. Unless I've missed something (like
addition of LocalTalk support to the kernel).
You could add a cheap used x86 (x < 5) or m68k box to the equation, load
it with Linux, and use it as a print server via the parallel port.
Michael
ke
> vmode:x . I don't know what would be a suited mode for you, can someone else
> please help?
vmode:14 should do.
Michael
Hello!
I want to upgrade from stable to unstable but this doesn´t work.
When Debconf will be configured many Perl 5.6 errors with modules
are printed on the screen. :(
Is the Perl oder Debconf package broken at the moment ?
Greets,
mfl
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:59:14AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Quoting Michael Flaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I want to upgrade from stable to unstable b
ime.
>From what I hear, the module loader needs some m68k fixes.
Michael
on't know. It doesn't happen for me. Maybe the keyboard
is configured to send the same keycode for both shift and option keys
anyway - at least I don't get a second key down on pressing the second
shift key.
Michael
ly
building XFree4 for m68k.
Michael
lesystem repair session. I've had pretty bad looking
e2fs crashes and could still recover the bulk of my system.
inodes that cannot be assigned to a particular file anymore can be found
in /lost+found at the root level of each partition. Examine these files
carefully to see if they contain anything worth recovering.
Michael
> is it in the meantime possible to let the disk spin down after a certain time
> of nonactivity? And how to educate it to nonactivity?
man hdparm (the -S option IIRC). Switch off any service that you don't
absolutely need, maybe adjust bdflush parameters.
Michael
w
host adapter, and probe for devices on that host adapter's bus. Watch for
errors in the log output from the modprobe usb-storage command.
Michael
y
So does a camera really qualify as a mass storage device then? That
strikes me as odd, to say the least. The 2.2 kernel may not like the
response to the fake SCSI inquiry command so it won't allocate a disk
device.
Michael
the camera needs to tell the USB core what
kind of functionalities it supports, mass storage being just one of them?
Michael
vers
> and it worked - does this imply the cam uses FAT? Or some kind of generic USB
> FS?
FAT, as the dumbest common denominator for sure. But I was thinking 'store
regular data on the camera instead of a zip' :-)
Michael
> But damn! it blanks and sleep(120)s and reboots like the first x4 did.
Lemme guess - still using BootX instead of yaboot?
Michael
ng before BootX (PCI cards
without OF boot ROM, anyone?). That's tough.
Ethan should have reports on such cases where yaboot could not be used at
all. I think these cases are extremely rare.
Michael
had this Problem ? How can I solve it ?
My Powerbook G3 / 400 is detected as Type 12 : Ibook.
Kernel is Paulus´ 2.4.1
thanks,
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Hi!
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 01:28:11PM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen (sp) wrote:
> On 15 Feb 2001 10:30:35 +0100, Michael Flaig wrote:
> > Hi All...
> >
> > My PMUD does not work ... I don´t know why ...
> > I get IDE Timeout ... this shouldn´t happen when i close the d
Hi All!
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 05:11:09PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Sergio Brandano wrote:
>
> > I have the same computer,
>
> No, you don't:
>
> > > My Powerbook G3 / 400 is detected as Type 12 : Ibook.
> ^^
missing sleep support in the kernel. Will be fixed as soon as
someone with a Pismo does some serious kernel hacking to properly
implement sleep, and posts the patch to linuxppc-dev.
Michael
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