Hi folks,
PC keyboards have been redesigned in Xfree86 4.3 to allow loading
several layouts (for instance us+ru+fr); in xkeyboard-config, all
previous PC layouts have been dropped and replaced by these new
layouts.
But Macintosh keyboards have not been updated, mainly because
upstream does not hav
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:16:18PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
[...]
> > This option should also work for any Debian-based distribution with
> > X.Org 7.0.
>
> So, folk running sarge will not be able to make this experiment, right ?
IIRC I had problems with X.Org releases prior to 7.0, but I do no
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 02:03:33AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
[...]
> Mmm, altough i have only a US keyboard powerbook, i would willingly test this,
> as this is a major problematic point for mac keyboards.
>
> I have two questions though :
>
> 1) how do you detect you have a pmac keyboard, and
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 04:05:39PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:50 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > Salut,
>
> Sorry for non french readers, the original mail is in french.
Yes, I thought that you would not quote me ;)
And now I hava network problem
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:55:18PM +0200, Ben Mueller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm very happy that someone is taking care of the macintosh keyboards!
>
> First I switched to
> XkbRules: xorg
> XkbModel: pc105
> XkbLayout: de
> XkbVariant: mac_nodeadkeys
> XkbOptions: lv3:lalt_switch
> which
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> > * Mac model (ibook, g4, g5, etc)
>
> PowerBook G4, [5,8]
>
> > * Mac keyboard (USB or not, country variant)
>
> internal keyboard, [DE]
>
> I made a picture:
> http://www.geocities.com/wolfgangpfeiffer/keyboard.PBook.g
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:23:13PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
[...]
> On my ibook, it's a little different: the two apple keys have the same 115
> keycode (but my apple usb keyboard makes the difference between the two 115
> and 116 apple keys.
>
> The fn key gives access to additional keycodes:
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 01:41:28PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > I am running an old G4/400 with a usb keyboard for testing reason
> > with the current kernel (2.6.17.11 from kernel.org). I do not know
> > when it happend but I am not able to switch to a virtual terminal
> > anymore.
> > If I r
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:54:30PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:28 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > * xkb-data 0.8-10exp1 has been uploaded into experimental; it contains
> > above changes and also:
> > - debian/patches/macbook_keycodes.diff.di
As explained in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/08/msg00336.html
I need your help to fix Macintosh keyboards. These changes
will be pushed upstream when known bugs are fixed, and I
would like to do it as soon as possible.
Since all reports so far complained that and
keys are swap
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:17:48PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> I did a few tests, hoping to not mess up as much as I did yesterday :)
> The most important for me: I was not able to get the swapped keys (^°
> and <>) back to where they should be.
All your problems should have been fixed
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 11:24:38PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> > If you set XkbModel to 'ibook', the small Enter key (keycode 108) becomes
> > ISO_Level3_Shift.
>
> Hi Denis,
>
> With the new xkb stuff, is it possible to tw
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:52:05PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Yannick Roehlly wrote:
>
> > On the French layout, the and @/# keys are swapted.
>
> I just noticed that that's the meaning of "Since all reports so far
> complained that and keys are swapped, this is now the
> default. If th
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> >
> > You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> > exactly which models need swapped keys. Can you please
> > cat
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:32:35PM +0100, Chris Burdess wrote:
> While we're on the subject of Mac keyboards, something has gone
> dreadfully wrong with keyboards in sid. I've done this on 2 different
> machines now, a G4 laptop and a dual G5 workstation:
>
> - install etch from a nightly build CD
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:31:47PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Good late summer evening, (well, in southern France at least)
>
> Bin Zhang wrote:
> > Option "XkbModel" "ibook"
>
> With the ibook layout, it was working; but I prefer to use the macintosh
> layout so that the keypad enter
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:08:10PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
[...]
> I'm not sure a model will cut it either. Here's my recollection of the
> problem:
>
> The hardware keycodes of these keys can be swapped, depending on layout
> and maybe other factors (IIRC it's about ISO vs. other variants of
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
> > level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
> > keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary
> >
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 03:50:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> [... most interesting discussion of xkb workings snipped ...]
> > In unstable, there are 2 models: macintosh and macintosh_old.
> > The latter is for older kernels, and should probably be renamed into
> > macintosh_adb for clarity r
Hi,
xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version
has been removed from this version, there are only 2 models:
- macintosh_old (old kernels with ADB keycodes)
- macintosh (new kernels with PC keycodes)
But 2 new options are added: apple:badmap and apple:goodmap to change
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 07:11:20PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> Hello Denis,
>
> Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental.
> >
> > This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report
> > problems. Af
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 10:20:04AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 11:24 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version
> > has been removed from this version, there are only 2 mo
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 12:47:22PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:24:26AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version
> > has been removed from this versi
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:45:58PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> Hello Yves-Alexis,
>
> Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 19:11 +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> >> Why is Fn+6 num_lock?
> >
> > On my system, (powerbook 5,6), Fn+F6 -is- numlock (but I thought it was
>
Hi,
I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it
is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/
and will reach mirrors in almost a day.
This version is very similar to 0.8-12exp4, I believe
that it is pretty solid, but needs more polishing.
We can discuss to change default settings a
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> Another point, the es layout for Macintosh is actually
> latin american. Apple makes both es and latin american
> and they are very different: simply look at the differences
> between latam and es in the symbols directory.
There i
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 10:54:22PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant nodeadkeys
> -print | xkbcomp - :0
>
>
> This one is fine: The 2nd is gone now and becomes a
> ISO_Level3_Shift (xev says that), left of the arrow 'LEFT
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard:
>
> 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get
>nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift
>modifier it works. T
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 04:00:52PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable,
>
> I see some warnings when running startx:
>
> Th
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:36:07PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Bonjour Denis,
>
> I have downloaded xkb-data 0.8-14 and played with commands such as:
>
> setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "macintosh" -layout "jp,ca" -variant ",multi"
> -option compose:rwin -option grp:lwin_toggle
Excellent, thi
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 21:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> > >
> > > >i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get (starting at AltGr-5)
> > > >[]|{}}\. This
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> > Which problems do you have, when you load the pc105 layout? Aren't it work?
>
> Exactly. Currently I've loaded xkb-data 0.8-14, and with that version
> as with the previous one I basically can use only 2 models:
> "powerb
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
[...]
> Denis: Do you by chance know, who works on the PowerPC installation
> manual?
In debian-installer, one selects a *console* layout; only a subset
of keymaps from console-data are included because of space constraints.
There i
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:37:15PM +0200, Mich Lanners wrote:
[...]
> However, the big problem is this: I can't acces 3rd/4th level! It would
> seem that the corresponding symbols are not defined (i.e. it's not a
> modifier problem). I suspect the problem here:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ setxkbmap -
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:59:52PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> It was difficult to map Alt_R to that key: The only way I found to do
> that was to add also Meta_R ... Denis: What did I miss as to this last
> point?
-option lv3:enter_switch
About your other changes, if you want to modify
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 10:36:37PM +0200, Mich Lanners wrote:
> The problem was I has XFree 6.9.0 installed, which looks for XKB files
> in /etc/X11/xkb, not /usr/share/X11/xkb. Fixed by upgrading to 7.0 and
> manually removing xlibs from 6.9.0, which provides, contrary to it's
> name, only XKB dat
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:31:49AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > About your other changes, if you want to modify pc105 German layout,
> > please discuss with other German people, not on this list only.
>
> They may vote as they like ... All I hope is that they at least do
> vote .. :)
I sh
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:18:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
[...]
> Actually, I just realised that windows keyboards use three different
> keys with similar functions but different keycodes.
Charles, there is an ongoing discussion about the Japanese layout at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/sho
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 12:48:31AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> Hello Denis,
>
> Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh, and you could also add Unicode quote characters U201E/U201C
> > (doublelowquotemark, leftdoublequotemark) to the German layout,
> > f
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:56:03AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 09:04:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit :
> > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:18:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Actually, I just realised that windows keyboards use th
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> Well, it works more or less. It does not work as I'd like
> on my old Powerbook since Apple changed the order of the
> keys right of the spacebar a few years ago:
>
> - now the keys are: spacebar, Command(Apple), Enter
> - on the
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:27:41PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
[...]
> > I've been unable to match MacOS and have something that works
> > under emacs: ideally I'd like to use both Alt keys as level3
> &
Hi,
eperl has been broken by the latest Perl upload (5.8.7-5), it now
segfaults on powerpc when loading binary modules:
$ cat tst1
<: use POSIX; :>
$ cat tst2
<: use Test; :>
$ eperl tst1
Segmentation fault
$ eperl tst2
$ ldd eperl
libperl.so.5.8 => /usr/lib/libperl.so
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:55:51AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> Hi, ...
>
> I am requesting, on behalf of the powerpc oldworld floppies users, some help
> to solve the problem of too big root.img.
>
> The file is 1489688 bytes, while the floppy size is 1474560, so it is 15128
> bytes to huge. I h
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 06:58:40PM +0200, Teemu Ikonen wrote:
> Now the question arises, why change the name of the keyboard model
> from "macintosh" to "macintosh_vndr", which (maybe) breaks every apple
> laptop on upgrade?
In fact, "macintosh" has not been changed into "macintosh_vndr", you
may
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