Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Brubeck
"Slot-loading" alone is too ambiguous, since the next several generations of iMacs will probably fit that description. One can imagine a user purchasing a new iMac, seeing "iMac (slot loading)" on a compatible list, and thiking that his model will work when in fact it doesn't. You and I know that

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread Joseph Fannin
On Friday 02 November 2001 22:05, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > I downloaded a prebuilt 2.4.12-benh0 kernel from > http://www.ppckernel.org/benh-devel/ and added it to my tftp-bootable > yaboot configuration. The kernel loaded and booted just fine, only > hanging when it hit the place where it

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread German Poo Caaman~o
En sáb, 2001-11-03 a 00:56, Chris Tillman escribio: > Here's a revision. > Model Name/Number Architecture > ----- > [...] > IBM RS/6000 > 40P, 43Pprep >

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-02 Thread Anthony Lau
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:41:08PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:44:04AM -0800, Anthony Lau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Did a really stupid thing and rsync'd away my working > > 2.4.9-benh0 directory and turned it into a 2.4.14-pre5-ben0 > > directory. > > > > It wouldn't be

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 07:05:04PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > > I downloaded a prebuilt 2.4.12-benh0 kernel from > http://www.ppckernel.org/benh-devel/ and added it to my tftp-bootable > yaboot configuration. The kernel loaded and booted just fine, only > hanging when it hit the place

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
Here's a revision. Model Name/Number Architecture ----- Apple iMac Bondi Blue, 5 Flavors, Slot Loadingpowermac-NewWorld iMac Summer 2000, Early 2001powermac-NewWo

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 07:51:46PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:47:23PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:47:23PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current > > preferred method... > > OK, sorry to waste everyone's time, I

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Jean-Francois Landry
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:03:21PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Okay, here goes (again): > > > I'd just like to add that I've been running most of my (x86) box on > > Reiserfs for over a year now, and I've yet to see it even hiccup. > > YMMV. > > Indeed, I didn't see a hiccup either for a few mo

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Jean-Francois Landry
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:03:21PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Okay, here goes (again): > > > I'd just like to add that I've been running most of my (x86) box on > > Reiserfs for over a year now, and I've yet to see it even hiccup. > > YMMV. > > Indeed, I didn't see a hiccup either for a few mo

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:47:23PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current > > preferred method... > > OK, sorry to waste everyone's time, I

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > For a resource such as this, I suggest naming the models as they are on > their nameplates, where this is possible (sometimes manufacturers call > two very different products the exact same thing -- I don't know if > Apple is guilt

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: Hi! I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current preferred method (drop the relevant files on the root of the relevant volume, craft a yaboot.conf, reboot into OF, etc) using the

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current > preferred method (drop the relevant files on the root of the relevant > volume, craft a yaboot.conf, reboot into OF, etc) using the current > versio

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:44:04AM -0800, Anthony Lau wrote: > Hi, > > Did a really stupid thing and rsync'd away my working > 2.4.9-benh0 directory and turned it into a 2.4.14-pre5-ben0 > directory. > > It wouldn't be too bad if 2.4.14 was usable on my machine > (PowerMac4400/200MHz 604e, 96MB R

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > For a resource such as this, I suggest naming the models as they are on > their nameplates, where this is possible (sometimes manufacturers call > two very different products the exact same thing -- I don't know if > Apple is gu

Re: Mundane question about memory needed

2001-11-02 Thread sloopy malibu
i was about to look in the archives as i just got somthing similar to this on a new debian 2.2r3 cd install... but i found if you check 'no video driver' and 'force video'in bootx and set mac os to 8bit (256) color,X will run... but the colors are so awful they are offensive... but it does run

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current > preferred method... OK, sorry to waste everyone's time, I had not sufficiently RTFM and hadn't noticed the bit about not being able to load from a

woody boot-floppies

2001-11-02 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
Hi! I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current preferred method (drop the relevant files on the root of the relevant volume, craft a yaboot.conf, reboot into OF, etc) using the current version of boot-floppies. Here is the entirety of my yaboot.conf: image=linux label=instal

Re: Mundane question about memory needed

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Brubeck
> I am a Linux newbie, and I just managed to get the Debian 2.2 R3 > booted up on my PowerMac 7600/120. Tried to do 'startx' and the kernel > paniced. I loaded the Gnome package on the initial installation. > > Before I go any further in troubleshooting, I should mention I only > have 16 MB RAM [..

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Robert Bar
At 19:03 Uhr -0700 01.11.2001, Chris Tillman wrote: To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: (...) +OldWorld + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600,

Re: Mundane question about memory needed

2001-11-02 Thread Thomas Hallaran
Changing the VM settings in MacOS will have no effect when you boot up the 7600 in linux. You will definatelly need more ram to run X comfortably but in lieu of more ram you should probably make a swap partition of about 50mb. As for your kernel panic I would be very supprised if it had anything

PPC blackdown JDK... any news?

2001-11-02 Thread Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick
I was just wondering if anybody on this list has their ears near the blackdown JDK porters for PPC. PPC never had a 1.3.1 release, and searching on debian-java and linuxppc-user & dev doesn't seem to reveal any JDK related traffic in many moons. Anybody here happen to know if the porting ef

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 22:28, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: > It might be interesting to ask the developpers lurking in reiserfs-list > if they consider Reiserfs on PowerPC to be a safe bet. AFAIK, nobody in > the core team has done much porting work except to Alpha... So, be a > good beta tester and

Re: kups questions

2001-11-02 Thread Georg Koss
Hi Russsell! As you mentioned my mail, I'm relative beginner as well, but lets see... On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 07:39:21AM -0500, Russell Hires wrote: > > I can't print! I'd like to know all I can about this particular situation, > such as, how do I know if I've got kernel modules running aroun

Re: Mundane question about memory needed

2001-11-02 Thread Colin Walters
Mike Yukish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am a Linux newbie, and I just managed to get the Debian 2.2 R3 > booted up on my PowerMac 7600/120. Tried to do 'startx' and the > kernel paniced. I loaded the Gnome package on the initial > installation. What was the text from the kernel panic? It sho

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Jean-Francois Landry
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:26:47AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Jeff Merkey has been providing endianness patches for a long time, and > they have been merged into 2.4 recently. > > I don't think the problems I and others have experienced with ReiserFS > are architecture specific. > OK, these p

Mundane question about memory needed

2001-11-02 Thread Mike Yukish
Hola Amigos, I am a Linux newbie, and I just managed to get the Debian 2.2 R3 booted up on my PowerMac 7600/120. Tried to do 'startx' and the kernel paniced. I loaded the Gnome package on the initial installation. Before I go any further in troubleshooting, I should mention I only have 16 MB

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:22:31PM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2001 00:24, Chris Tillman wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:17:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > one thing to keep in mind is woody will ship with a specific kernel > > (probably 2.2.19 or 2.2.20) and will not ever upgrade that kernel once > > woody is stable. so when the current kernel that supports some new > > mac is 4.4.12 debian woody will still be using 2.2.19 which won't > > suppor

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Joseph Fannin
On Friday 02 November 2001 00:24, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:17:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > >

[Stefan Westerfeld ] Re: Not entirely fixed. - big-endian arts issues

2001-11-02 Thread John Goerzen
--- Begin Message --- Hi! On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:50:48PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > Response on the arts patch you supplied. > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:04:51AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > > > There seems to have been progress, but it's not entirely there yet. > > The arts dae

Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-02 Thread Anthony Lau
Hi, Did a really stupid thing and rsync'd away my working 2.4.9-benh0 directory and turned it into a 2.4.14-pre5-ben0 directory. It wouldn't be too bad if 2.4.14 was usable on my machine (PowerMac4400/200MHz 604e, 96MB RAM) but it's constantly swapping, swapping appears to be slower than in 2.4.9

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Tom Rini
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 06:54:33AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:53:20AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > > > supported by Debian. Please add, correc

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:53:20AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > > > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > > supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: > > Bad idea, rather point people to some online

kups questions

2001-11-02 Thread Russell Hires
Hello everyone, These questions fall under the "newbie" category, so bear with me. I've got a G3/266 running woody, with a 2.2.18 kernel (2.2.19 has been iffy for me, especially regarding X, because I've got a Voodoo 3 card), with a PCI USB card, which is attached to my Epson Stylus Color 777

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 11:34, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >>If you carefully study the FAQ on www.namesys.com, you'll see that > >>Reiserfs has only been tested on x86 and Alpha. So there are quite > >>probably a number of endianess issues at the least with the code. > >> > > > > Jeff Merkey has been

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 22:17, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:07:49PM +, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Sorry for flooding the list this week. I've taken the week off from work to do some databasing and to try and get Debian running on my Lombard. S

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 22:17, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:07:49PM +, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Sorry for flooding the list this week. I've taken the week off from work to do some databasing and to try and get Debian running on my Lombard. S

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Thanks for all the replies on this subject. I've installed pmud on my powerbook to minimise crashes due to unexpected loss of battery power. I'm thinking of using ext3 or XFS for journaling file system support once I have looked into these a bit. Thanks again Rory

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support & Reiser strategy

2001-11-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 22:17, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:07:49PM +, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > Sorry for flooding the list this week. I've taken the week off from work > > to do some databasing and to try and get Debian running on my Lombard. > > Sad, isn't it!

Re: gcc in woody?

2001-11-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 09:37, Joseph Fannin wrote: > > Um, is it just me, or is there no compiler in woody? > > Until I found this list, I was beginning to think the powerpc port was > no longer maintained. It sounds like people are running woody, tho > > What about sid? I a

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: Bad idea, rather point people to some online list at a site like penguinppc.org... Models known to have no support whatso

Re: and an insomniac pismo (with 2.4.14-pre5-ben0)

2001-11-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
> >no they don't, my 540c did not, and it had a mechenism where when the > >lid is closed it went to sleep, but when it awoke for whatever reason > >it usually stayed awake and became very hot. > > I think that's called a bug ;) > > You *did* say it was MockOS, didn't you? I doubt the m68k kernel

gcc in woody?

2001-11-02 Thread Joseph Fannin
Um, is it just me, or is there no compiler in woody? Until I found this list, I was beginning to think the powerpc port was no longer maintained. It sounds like people are running woody, tho What about sid? I assume it's somewhere too? Am I wrong in assuming that if it's

Re: and an insomniac pismo (with 2.4.14-pre5-ben0)

2001-11-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 07:59, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 05:35:41PM -0800, Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick wrote: > > >no they don't, my 540c did not, and it had a mechenism where when the > > >lid is closed it went to sleep, but when it awoke for whatever reason > > >it usually stay

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chris Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > + - Power Macintosh G4/466, 533, 667, 733 (Digital Audio) Power Macintosh G4/533MP (Digital Audio) -- Lars Brinkhoff http://lars.nocrew.org/ Linux, GCC, PDP-10 Brinkhoff Consultinghttp://www.brinkhoff.se/programming

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:07:30PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > > > +OldWorld > > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > > > Aren't

Re: and an insomniac pismo (with 2.4.14-pre5-ben0)

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 05:35:41PM -0800, Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick wrote: > >no they don't, my 540c did not, and it had a mechenism where when the > >lid is closed it went to sleep, but when it awoke for whatever reason > >it usually stayed awake and became very hot. > > I think that's called

Re: Next problem on the road to iBook Debian Linux

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:46:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > Hopefully woody will be released soon... if you consider 2014 `soon' then it will. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpTRmXkJRRjV.pgp Description: PGP signature