On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 01:25:40PM -0500, Jim wrote:
> >
> Yeah, the LinuxPPC 2000 CD boots great on an old-world powermac, using what
> looks to me like miBoot... but Debian is so much nicer.
yes it does use miboot, that is what miboot was designed for. however
the implementation has several pr
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:39:40AM -0600, Jeremiah Merkl wrote:
> >
> > i helped someone install a debian only 7200 over irc, it can be done,
> > the OF boot device i think ended up being:
> >
> > scsi/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0
> >
> > you will need a serial terminal to interface with OF however.
>
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:50:40AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> > Uh, mine's been stable for quite some time. Your attitude seems to have
> > been
> > influenced by Apple's practice of planned obsolescence- no reason to support
> > perfectly good
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:50:40AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
> Uh, mine's been stable for quite some time. Your attitude seems to have been
> influenced by Apple's practice of planned obsolescence- no reason to support
> perfectly good oldworlds when we can force the masses to buy new ones!
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 04:01:01PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > PPC tends to not use compressed images
^
> Not true: PPC uses compressed kernel images embedded into a loadable image
> (ELF in case of my CHRP box). A quick glance at arch
Josh wrote:
> > Not copy, install. Install the libc6-header rpm (the name is something like
> > that).
>
> rpm, so its not a debian package? or is it on the debian ftp site?
Erp...sorry about that, mental hiccup :-) There are .debs too for the same
package, I forgot which list I was posting to
I thought you'd said you weren't allowed to make this code public (at least,
not in-between releases...)? At least that's what you said before when I asked
about Mach64... that must have changed, hooray!
A big thanks! I'll be testing the Mach64, most certainly...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Wit
"J" == Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"NA" == Nelson Abramson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NA> Not copy, install. Install the libc6-header rpm (the name
NA> is something like that).
J> rpm, so its not a debian package? or is it on the debian
J> ftp site?
As I said in my message, the Debian pac
"J" == Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Me> Yes. Put something else (like the name of your dog, your
Me> cat, your fish, or your second-grade teacher there
Me> instead).
J> even if I didn't name vmlinux and System.map with an extra
J> name?
In that case, no, don't bother with E
> Not copy, install. Install the libc6-header rpm (the name is something like
> that).
rpm, so its not a debian package? or is it on the debian ftp site?
Josh wrote:
> > You *should not* have links to those directories in your kernel
> > source. There's a whole thread on this topic in debian-powerpc
> > from back in January of 2000 -- search for ``Subject: Continuing
> > annoyances...''
>
> OK, I read some of that, but what do I do now? Can I jus
> > Yes. Put something else (like the name of your dog, your cat,
> > your fish, or your second-grade teacher there instead).
>
> even if I didn't name vmlinux and System.map with an extra name?
You shouldn't be setting EXTRAVERSION at all unless you are modifying the
kernel source and distribut
> You *should not* have links to those directories in your kernel
> source. There's a whole thread on this topic in debian-powerpc
> from back in January of 2000 -- search for ``Subject: Continuing
> annoyances...''
OK, I read some of that, but what do I do now? Can I just remove the links?
> y
Hello all,
Well here is an update to my install problems...
Booting up for the install was no problem (using the miboot img...
hfs-boot.img) it was booting up for the first time (to finish the
install... you know the apt stuff) that caused to the problems. I could
not get the kernel shipped wi
> Yes. Put something else (like the name of your dog, your cat,
> your fish, or your second-grade teacher there instead).
even if I didn't name vmlinux and System.map with an extra name?
"J" == Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> Ok, maybe this is the deal. I think I put '2.2.16' in the
J> EXTRAVERSION field in the Makefile. Would that add the
J> extra 2.2.16?
Yes.
J> I didn't name anything else like that. Can I just take it
J> out of the Makefile?
Yes. Put
"J" == Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> One other thing I did (that I found on some on-line
J> documentation) when compiling kernel was to make new links
J> from /usr/include/asm /usr/include/linux /usr/include/scsi
J> to /usr/src/linux/include/asm-ppc
J> /usr/src/linux/include/
Ok, maybe this is the deal. I think I put '2.2.16' in the EXTRAVERSION field
in the
Makefile. Would that add the extra 2.2.16?
I didn't name anything else like that.
Can I just take it out of the Makefile?
One other thing I did (that I found on some on-line documentation) when
compiling kernel was
to make new links from
/usr/include/asm
/usr/include/linux
/usr/include/scsi
to
/usr/src/linux/include/asm-ppc
/usr/src/linux/include/linux
/usr/src/linux/include/scsi
(after removing the old ones)
Is th
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 04:32:55PM -0500, Josh wrote:
> uname -a:
>
> Linux debian 2.2.162.2.16 #1 Thu July 6 22:38:31 CDT 2000 ppc unknown
>
> Also, when doing the PCMCIA stuff there was a 'binary operator expected'
> message before
> the other ones (I don't know if that tells you anything).
Y
> On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 04:03:37PM -0500, Josh wrote:
> > Compiling the kernel seemed to go ok. Rebooted fine. When I tried to
> > install
> > PCMCIA stuff, some weird things happened. Such as:
> >
> > module directory:
> > /lib/modules/2.2.162.2.16 /pcmcia not found
> >
> > This message came
Josh wrote:
> Compiling the kernel seemed to go ok. Rebooted fine. When I tried to install
> PCMCIA stuff, some weird things happened. Such as:
>
> module directory:
> /lib/modules/2.2.162.2.16 /pcmcia not found
^
That's pretty weird. I am not aware of an
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 04:03:37PM -0500, Josh wrote:
> Compiling the kernel seemed to go ok. Rebooted fine. When I tried to install
> PCMCIA stuff, some weird things happened. Such as:
>
> module directory:
> /lib/modules/2.2.162.2.16 /pcmcia not found
>
> This message came up a few times dur
Compiling the kernel seemed to go ok. Rebooted fine. When I tried to install
PCMCIA stuff, some weird things happened. Such as:
module directory:
/lib/modules/2.2.162.2.16 /pcmcia not found
This message came up a few times during the end of PCMCIA 'make install' (man
probe
then that, dep mod
Matt Brubeck wrote:
> XFree 4 is definitely the fastest and currently the most-maintained X
> server for the r128. I have been using it on my iMac DV for several months
> with no problems. The downside is that there is no Debian package yet, so
> you will have to install it manually if you don't w
>> I'm not an expert on powerpc machines but can you boot on CD ?
>> from the OF perhaps ? (there is something on this in the linux ppc archives)
>
> no bootable CDs don't work on oldworld machines. (well the LinuxPPC
> 2000 supposedly boots them but LinuxPPC is too broken for words IMNSHO)
>
Y
>
> i helped someone install a debian only 7200 over irc, it can be done,
> the OF boot device i think ended up being:
>
> scsi/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0
>
> you will need a serial terminal to interface with OF however.
Sometimes...depends on the brokenness. :) The easiest way IMHO is to use
bootva
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Xavier Grave wrote:
> I wonder what's the best to do for my X11 configuration :
> use the fb or the Xfree 4.0 tree ?
> As I understand the fb for the moment is a more stable choice but the
> Xfree solution is a best choice on the long term...
First, the iMac uses an ATI Rage 1
Hi,
I wonder what's the best to do for my X11 configuration :
use the fb or the Xfree 4.0 tree ?
As I understand the fb for the moment is a more stable choice but the
Xfree solution is a best choice on the long term...
Can somebody advice me ?
Thanks in advance, xavier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
For the moment are only summarised the first steps of my install.
I don't have the time to try to make the X11 part to function which is
for me the last step before a full installed box.
I have the file under tex and ps format (size 71858)
If somebody is interested by having the ps one, just
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> PPC tends to not use compressed images
Not true: PPC uses compressed kernel images embedded into a loadable image
(ELF in case of my CHRP box). A quick glance at arch/ppc/coffboot/Makefile
makes me think a similar thing is done for PowerMac.
Gr{oetje,eeti
Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:03:12PM -0500, Josh wanted to say the following:
> > > well, is it an Intel binary?
> >
> > mmm...probably
> >
> >
> > > Which one is it, btw?
> >
> > DynuPremium from dynu.com
> >
> > Do you know of any dynamic dns services with scripts for L
Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:07:31PM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Is anyone currently running debian on a powermac 7200 without using
> > bootx? That is is there anyone running debian on a powermac 7200, using
> > the OF and QUIK to boot up? If so can you
For those interested, I upgraded my kernel from 2.2.16 to Paul's
2.2.17pre7 and the hangs caused by GDB stopped occurring.
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At 1:25 AM -0700 7/7/2000, C.M. Connelly wrote:
"EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
EB> frankly i would suggest selling the damn thing and getting
EB> a newworld box (a used imac or something) nobody is testing
EB> kernels on 7200's and nobody other then Dan seems to give a
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Our 1996 Powerbase 200 603ev PCI Mac clone died yesterday.
> Sometimes it was Mac, mostly it was one of our network backups.
> The drives spin up, there's enough video to gray the screen
> but nothing else. Oh well.
>
> Is there any reason not to
Our 1996 Powerbase 200 603ev PCI Mac clone died yesterday.
Sometimes it was Mac, mostly it was one of our network backups.
The drives spin up, there's enough video to gray the screen
but nothing else. Oh well.
Is there any reason not to put the whole thing in the trash?
It's got an MB with CPU a
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:36:45PM -0800, Ethan Benson:
>: On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:07:31PM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote:
>: > Hello,
>: > Is anyone currently running debian on a powermac 7200 without using
>: > bootx? That is is there anyone running debian on a powermac 7200, using
>: >
"EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
EB> frankly i would suggest selling the damn thing and getting
EB> a newworld box (a used imac or something) nobody is testing
EB> kernels on 7200's and nobody other then Dan seems to give a
EB> damn whether quik works or not. oldworld
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:21:19AM +0200, Andre Berger wrote:
> Oops I didn't realize this thread is on debian-powerpc. Most PC
> emulators won't wotk on PPC; experiences with VMWare on PPC anyone?
Twine was supposed to include an i386 emulator, but i never managed to compile
it under debian/ppc,
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:45:36PM -0700, David Brown wrote:
>
> Goodness, it isn't that hard.
perhaps not, but i have found the moment you say anything about
modifiying openfirmware people start screaming and running away in
panic. there is just too much FUD from linuxppc about quik (and OF by
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 09:30:45PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:01:14PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
> the bootstrap partition must be the first partition on the first disk
> lest you be forced to dick around in OpenFirmware.
>
> i would reccommend giving the entire fi
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:03:12PM -0500, Josh wanted to say the following:
> > well, is it an Intel binary?
>
> mmm...probably
>
>
> > Which one is it, btw?
>
> DynuPremium from dynu.com
>
> Do you know of any dynamic dns services with scripts for Linux PPC?
Freshmeat.net is the place to loo
OK, I followed the LanWave directions, compiled the kernel, applied patches to
PCMCIA module, and her's what happened:
After make config (on PCMCIA package), There was a message about not having
Xforms and some include stuff, but it said Configuration Successful.
Toward the end of make install, t
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:07:31PM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote:
> Hello,
> Is anyone currently running debian on a powermac 7200 without using
> bootx? That is is there anyone running debian on a powermac 7200, using
> the OF and QUIK to boot up? If so can you email me your kernel and
yes
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:01:14PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
> Ok, I've been reading the list archives all day and I'm at least a little
> more familiar with the process, but still am not certain.
>
> I've recently acquired a G4 through work. It's got a zip disk and 2 18GB scsi
> disks. Right
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:29:54PM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm having trouble booting on a 7200. When I boot I get the following
> message printed on my serial console:
>
> Open Firmware, 1.0.5
> bla bla bla...
> 0 > boot Second-stage QUIK loader
> boot:
>
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 06:33:17PM +0200, Xavier Grave wrote:
> I'm not an expert on powerpc machines but can you boot on CD ?
> from the OF perhaps ? (there is something on this in the linux ppc archives)
no bootable CDs don't work on oldworld machines. (well the LinuxPPC
2000 supposedly boots t
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 07:24:18AM -0400, James Waterhouse wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm about to install debian on a powermac 7200. Right now it has the
> macos on it but I want to wipe the drive and just have it running
> debian. Before I start does anyone have any good advise to give me? I've
>
Hello,
Is anyone currently running debian on a powermac 7200 without using
bootx? That is is there anyone running debian on a powermac 7200, using
the OF and QUIK to boot up? If so can you email me your kernel and
modules and everything else I might need to get potato working on my
mac. I h
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