Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Matt Porter
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:13:58PM -0400, Kevin Puetz wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Oh no, don't use dselect...it's evil. If you were using apt then it > > would have held back gcc/g++ and friends for lack of the new binutils > > (which is easily obtained from experimental if you want it

Re: console-apt

1999-09-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > Should i send you the compile.log for powerpc? Yes, please. Also, if you have time, run the testsuite from a vanilla compile like so: 1. unpack the source using dpkg-source 2. type "./configure" 3. type "make" 4. type "make check" 5. send me the .s

Re: console-apt

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > Chris, any thoughts on a non-experimental upload of binutils in the > > near future? Powerpc is somewhat broken at present. > > It's coming soon (probably this weekend). I have to test the latest out > with Alpha and ask Sparc to test it also (there have been some issues on > both that have

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:13:58PM -0400, Kevin Puetz wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Oh no, don't use dselect...it's evil. If you were using apt then it > > would have held back gcc/g++ and friends for lack of the new binutils > > (which is easily obtained from experimental if you want it

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> Hmm... OK, but I've actually had pretty good luck compiling them (at least I > was until dselect took me up to gcc 2.95.1 and binutils broke. It differs very much if you build a package on your own machine or by the auto-compiler. Often the package builds cleanly for the maintainer but fails ho

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Ok, i will look into that, and check it. I don't have a mach64 though > so i will not be able to test it, just build the package. Should we > forward this stuff to debian-x mailing list ? I have one, so I can test - assuming this is the mach64 code for XF86_FBDev, not

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > The best way is -- as i requested it serveral times -- ask for bad > > packages and work on them. > > So I just need to register with debian and start hacking on packages > that > don't work (well, OK _clean_ fixes to packages that don't work). I'll > do that > (go

Re: console-apt

1999-09-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Chris, any thoughts on a non-experimental upload of binutils in the > near future? Powerpc is somewhat broken at present. I just finished packaging 2.9.5.0.12. If you want to try it, you can obtain the source package via ftp from master in ~chris

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Oh no, don't use dselect...it's evil. If you were using apt then it > would have held back gcc/g++ and friends for lack of the new binutils > (which is easily obtained from experimental if you want it to work). Does apt have a way to list packages and details? If so I h

Re: Debian/PPC (was: Re: console-apt)

1999-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:08:03AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > It shouldn't be difficult to modify the buildd package to check with > > powerpc.debian.org (tervola) to check out packages to build and merge the > > results back with tervola. Anybody real familiar with buildd and willing >

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:50:08PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > i just downloaded the vim source package, and will try building it. I suppose > the binutrils package in experimental is : > > binutils_2.9.5.0.10-0.1_powerpc.deb, somewhat older than the current binutils. > Will apt not complain ab

Re: gcc 2.95.1 safe to use?

1999-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On powerpc, certainly. On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:08:12PM -0400, John Whitley wrote: > > Someone whose attribution got lost in the shuffle wrote: > > PowerPC is now completely broken, as the old binutils won't accept the > > target requested by gcc 2.95.1. > > On a vaguely related topic, is gc

Re: console-apt

1999-09-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Chris, any thoughts on a non-experimental upload of binutils in the > near future? Powerpc is somewhat broken at present. It's coming soon (probably this weekend). I have to test the latest out with Alpha and ask Sparc to test it also (there have

Re: gcc 2.95.1 safe to use?

1999-09-15 Thread Matt Porter
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:08:12PM -0400, John Whitley wrote: > On a vaguely related topic, is gcc 2.95.1 safe to use for compiling > kernels yet? I've put my gcc related packages on hold until I can > find reliable confirmation that kernel building will work with the new > gcc. I'm running on ou

Re: gcc 2.95.1 safe to use?

1999-09-15 Thread Andreas Tobler
John Whitley wrote: > > Someone whose attribution got lost in the shuffle wrote: > > PowerPC is now completely broken, as the old binutils won't accept the > > target requested by gcc 2.95.1. > > On a vaguely related topic, is gcc 2.95.1 safe to use for compiling > kernels yet? I've put my g

Re: gcc 2.95.1 safe to use?

1999-09-15 Thread Josh Huber
John Whitley writes: > On a vaguely related topic, is gcc 2.95.1 safe to use for compiling > kernels yet? I've put my gcc related packages on hold until I can > find reliable confirmation that kernel building will work with the new > gcc. It appears to work for me, -- I'm using the linux-pmac-stab

gcc 2.95.1 safe to use?

1999-09-15 Thread John Whitley
Someone whose attribution got lost in the shuffle wrote: > PowerPC is now completely broken, as the old binutils won't accept the > target requested by gcc 2.95.1. On a vaguely related topic, is gcc 2.95.1 safe to use for compiling kernels yet? I've put my gcc related packages on hold until I

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Matt Porter
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 07:41:22AM -0400, Kevin Puetz wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Outdated packages are bad packages with compiler or packing errors. > > The xfree package is one of it (it fails for mach64 and two header > > files that are at the wrong place). > > Hmm... OK, but I've actu

Re: console-apt

1999-09-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Christian Meder wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 02:39:27PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > Chris, any thoughts on a non-experimental upload of binutils in the > > near future? Powerpc is somewhat broken at present. > > Chris wrote on the debian-alpha list that he's pre

(IMPORTANT) email address changing - EFFECTIVE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 1999!

1999-09-15 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
Quick note to everyone; Effective Friday, September 17th, 1999, this email address will NO LONGER EXIST. I am relocating within the next week to two weeks to take a new job, and will be TOTALLY UNAVAILABLE for a period of two to three days. (Yes, that means pager too, those of you who have it.) I

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 07:41:22AM -0400, Kevin Puetz wrote: > > --citations from two messages in this thread > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Outdated packages are bad packages with compiler or packing errors. > > The xfree package is one of it (it fails for mach64 and two header > > files that a

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
--citations from two messages in this thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Outdated packages are bad packages with compiler or packing errors. > The xfree package is one of it (it fails for mach64 and two header > files that are at the wrong place). Hmm... OK, but I've actually had pretty good luck

Re: netstd problem

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:53:05AM +, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > While doing a 'apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade' recently, I got this: > > Setting up netstd (3.07-10) ... > not in group file at /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.postinst line 63, chunk > 5. > dpkg: error processing netstd (--configure

Re: Linux Hacker Meeting (formerly m68k Hacker Meeting)

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:49:30AM +, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Martin Schulze wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > we're happy to announce that the Linux User Group Oldenburg is > > organizing another instance of the traditional m68k hackers meeting in > > Oldenburg, Germany. > > > Anyone from Sw

netstd problem

1999-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
While doing a 'apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade' recently, I got this: Setting up netstd (3.07-10) ... not in group file at /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.postinst line 63, chunk 5. dpkg: error processing netstd (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors wer

Re: Linux Hacker Meeting (formerly m68k Hacker Meeting)

1999-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
Martin Schulze wrote: > > Hi folks, > > we're happy to announce that the Linux User Group Oldenburg is > organizing another instance of the traditional m68k hackers meeting in > Oldenburg, Germany. Anyone from Switzerland going and able and willing to take me with him/her? :) Michel -- Ev

Re: xfs

1999-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
Josh Huber wrote: > > I noticed that debian starts an x font server, but for some reason I can't > get it to use the server: > > [snip] I'm sorry, I can't help you, but be careful with xfs anyway. It regularly locked my X server after one or two hours of normal use. Michel -- Do I look li

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > > Should i upload the X package i will build, or will the autobuilder > > > > take care of it ? > > > > > > Upload it. > > > > Ok, i will do it. What is the problem with the mach64 stuff ? any relation > > with > > the sparc

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > > Should i upload the X package i will build, or will the autobuilder > > > take care of it ? > > > > Upload it. > > Ok, i will do it. What is the problem with the mach64 stuff ? any relation > with > the sparc mach64 stuff recently added to the package ? Yes, it is a problem with Ben's pat

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:44:24PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > Should i upload the X package i will build, or will the autobuilder > > take care of it ? > > Upload it. Ok, i will do it. What is the problem with the mach64 stuff ? any relation with the sparc mach64 stuff recently added to th

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> Should i upload the X package i will build, or will the autobuilder > take care of it ? Upload it. > Also i noticed the following bug too : > > bahs$ vim > BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-runtime.c: 67: fixup: Assertion > `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 21' failed! > > Is it the same bug, or sh

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 09:56:14AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > I was wondering how / offering to build PPC binary packages from source > > packages that are new or updated, since the PPC binaries seem to be (at > > least > > sometimes) dated. I don't know what kind of scheme is used to

Re: gcc 2.95.1-2 and ld

1999-09-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:14:05AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > I upgraded gcc to version 2.95.1-2 and I cannot build any binaries. > > > > This is error messages. > > --- > > /usr/bin/ld: unrecognised emulation mode: elf32ppclinux > > Supported emulations: elf32ppc >

Re: Debian/PPC (was: Re: console-apt)

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> It shouldn't be difficult to modify the buildd package to check with > powerpc.debian.org (tervola) to check out packages to build and merge the > results back with tervola. Anybody real familiar with buildd and willing > to modify it? I think James Troup wrote it... Roman Hodek is the main a

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> I was wondering how / offering to build PPC binary packages from source > packages that are new or updated, since the PPC binaries seem to be (at least > sometimes) dated. I don't know what kind of scheme is used to track such > rebuilds, or if additional CPU juice is really needed (maybe I j

Re: Debian/PPC (was: Re: console-apt)

1999-09-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> Judging by the number of deb packages that compile fine but are out-of-date > in the PPC tree, is more CPU horsepower needed to auto-build? No need, one auto-builder is enough. > I don't know what the protocol for this is, but I would be more than willing > to run a debian-compiler instead of

Re: Telnet help

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > alright. in.telnetd is annoying me. > When I try to telnet into my machine, all I get on the client side is > "telnetd: All network ports in use." > however, when I run in.telnetd on console as root, I get the message: > # in.telnetd in.telnetd: getpeername: Socket opera

xfs

1999-09-15 Thread Josh Huber
I noticed that debian starts an x font server, but for some reason I can't get it to use the server: using either FontPath "tcp/localhost:7100" or FontPath "unix/:-1" neither work, and give me: _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fat

Telnet help

1999-09-15 Thread Jeremiah Merkl
alright. in.telnetd is annoying me. When I try to telnet into my machine, all I get on the client side is "telnetd: All network ports in use." however, when I run in.telnetd on console as root, I get the message: # in.telnetd in.telnetd: getpeername: Socket operation on non-socket # Does anyone

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Sure. I was just mentioning it in case someone decided more CPU juice > *were* needed (whereupon I'd get some more machines or at least some > more RAM) > BTW, how easy is cross-compiling packages? cross-compiling, or recompiling (ie, making PPC packages on x86 or maki

Re: Debian/PPC

1999-09-15 Thread Martin Keegan
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Kevin Puetz wrote: > I'm not sure what you're referring to here. I was not asking for access to a > PPC. I'm not a developer, though I may become one in the future once I'm all Sure. I was just mentioning it in case someone decided more CPU juice *were* needed (whereupon I'