in the debian policy team?
- Who is part of the debian policy team besides of the two delegates
- Russ Allbery (rra)
- Sean Whitton (spwhitton)
Greets Ernst
On 04/26/2023 6:31 PM, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:49:32AM +, Robert Ernst wrote:
Hello Bill
solution for this specific bug would be to leave a comment
with a hint to the history and then close it?
Greets Ernst
On 04/26/2023 4:21 PM, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 09:03:14AM +, Robert Ernst wrote:
Hello,
I found this bug because I was asking myself why we don&#
Hello,
I found this bug because I was asking myself why we don't include more
licenses in the /usr/share/common-licenses/ folder.
While I am open to have the big topic (of why we don't just put all
licenses know to man in every language put into the common-licences
folder and then refer from t
on of binary package in order to
upload into archive, otherwise they are probably of little interest to
users, especially that they are being later overridden by maintainers'
uploads.
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In my opinion, as I wrote in #766711, footnote [116] allows such
linking, as it seems to refer to source version of a package.
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Charles Plessy writes:
Hi,
>
> Dear Robert (maintainer of doc-base) and everybody,
>
> I have proposed the patch below to the Debian Policy in August this year, to
> stop recommending the direct use of install-docs for registering documents to
> doc-base, and wonder if you agr
-builders (via debian/source/options
possibly?). Forcing the --force-build-arch however is pretty much the
same solution as that one with Build-Options.
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> registration would go directly to that list. This way there would be
> some consistency and editorial control attached to the entire index of
> documentation.
I agree, it would be a good idea to have some team to review the
doc-base files, especially that something similar is alread
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 23:37 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On Sunday 10 May 2009 13:56:04 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I thought it was generally recognized that it's a Bad Idea to implement
> > config files using your interpreter's 'include' functionality, but that's
> > basically what we have here
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:34:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I thought the number of affected packages would be small. Can you point
> > me to that analisys ?
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/12/ms
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 11:24:45AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The majority of packages already supports parallel builds by simply
> > passing the appropiate -j flag to make. Not that I object to a
> > "parallel
at packages allow any
amount of parallelisation. This requirement wouldn't really be excessive, I
think. It's just a matter of writing Makefiles properly by defining the
right targets and dependencies; something that's easily archieveable when
people remove bad habits like
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 09:06:42PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:17:00AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >>
> >> Instead, I think we should amend policy in this way:
> >>
> >>
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:41:10PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> > Unlike "required", "important" may include packages following other
> > conditions not related to this one (and in fact, most of the
Package: debian-policy
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Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch
In the definition of priorities, "required" and "important" seem to collide
with each other. In particular, the part of "required" that reads:
"Packages which are necessary for the proper functioning of the system"
with th
parallel= in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS will be passed to MAKEFLAGS as
> well. Based on an idea by Robert Millan. Closes: #440636
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> [Robert Millan]
> > Actually, you might be interested in knowing that this is possible right
> > now,
> > without any change in dpkg-buildpackage, by using command injection via
> > gain
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 12:10:27PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
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> Would still be nice to do this a bit more cleanly ;-). I'll send a patch to
> dpkg maintainers.
See bug #440636
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> I think you're overengineering. There are basicaly two use cases:
>
> a- Developer building a package for a specific purpose (e.g. testing
> an improvement), wanting to speed up this specific build.
&g
ng/overriding -j in
$(MAKE) recursion (does MAKE+=-j1 suffice?)
[4] #355654 would also archieve that, although I think -j would be better.
[5] to us or to upstream; it doesn't necessarily mean more work in our side.
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diff -ur debian-policy-3.7.2.2.old/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.7.2.2/policy.sgml
--- debian-
think we should amend policy in this way:
>
> Packages under a fixed, definite version of the GPL should refer to
> the versioned GPL file in /usr/share/common-licenses.
Good idea. Should we also specify that referring to the unversioned GPL
is for programs that say "Version X
nt by extending it to any DFSG
compatible version the FSF may publish.
- Deprecate use of symlinks, since they're a source of problems (as exposed
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Robert.
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+endif
+NJOBS := -j$(PARALLEL_JOBS)
+endif
+MAKEFLAGS += $(NJOBS)
+
thus supporting the glibc's interface and the extension of expl
package since it
> > > can be used as such.
> >
> > Please read
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=96873
> >
> > on a discussion about this. There is no real use.
> > I will close this report and reopen if you have new input on this.
> > I hope you are OK with that.
> >
> >
> > Robert.
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Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:10:58PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > Why? because they support building packages as root when
> > dh_testroot can solve a lot of headache ?
Ye gods! Removing dh_testroot does not break the build-as-root case!
> What d
Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think things are fine the way they are, I think what you're
> suggesting would be a lot of work, I see no tangible benefits,
> therefore I oppose the idea.
The benefit is 9 characters less typing per rebuild cycle per person.
There were patterns put i
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think so. I have put forth many real-world scenarios in which
> using national charsets for filenames simply breaks, in ways that are
> basically impossible to fix. You may be able to get away with using a
> national charset on a machine where
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > As I see it, the current (broken ?) behaviour is, to use the user's
> > locale setting (LC_CTYPE) to encode file names.
>
> It appears so, and yes, this behavior is completely and fundamentally
> broken.
Whether or not this is broken is debatable.
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Preserving would be useful if there were a lot of users or programs
> > taking the content of the maintainer field and stuffing it into a To
> > header.[...]
>
> One program that does that is jennifer (of katie fame).
True. It could get away with tossi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> This is incorrect. /usr/share is intended to be shared between
> cooperating systems, but cooperating systems' root users might well
> have secrets that they want to conveniently share.
/usr/share is not appropriate for that, as it is the OS's p
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:26:24PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Also, make a policy proposal that all files in /usr/share be
> world-readable on Debian systems.
>
and create an according lintian check!
robert
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> All packages have to be buildable with the current release. And this
> does not include non-us if you happen to be in the us.
Nope, you may freely download from non-us.debian.org, even if you're
currently in the USofA.
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Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I feel it is very important every init script behave the same. However the
> wording of section 10.3.2 is confusing:
>
>The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly if invoked
>with start when the service is already running,
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mail setups that do not understand MIME are antiquated to the point
> that most email must be hard to deal with.
Fine by me.
> Robbe> But you were using characters outside ASCII as well, so one
> Robbe> needs tools to turn them from UTF8 gibberi
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robbe> Is Unicode manadatory now? (You somewhat incorrecly used
> Robbe> U+2010, hyphen, in that mail.)
>
>
> Mandatory? mandated by whom?
Obviously MIME is mandatory for participation in policy process I
infer from your "Fix your MUA" comm
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> shite? Fix your own darned MUA.
Is Unicode manadatory now? (You somewhat incorrecly used U+2010, hyphen,
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> There are some things that might want to be added before it
> becomes truly official.
>
> See the policy at:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/
>
> * gcj and how to handle that (should it be mentioned at all?).
I don't have the
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:50:45PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> reassign 152632 debian-policy
> thanks
>
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Robert Millan wrote:
>
> > Package: base-files
> > Version: 3.0.3
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> >
se this bug if you think it's not a good idea.
btw, suggestions about naming for ufs* welcome ;)
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Taking a look at packages in Debian that contain
filesystem maintainance utilities (mkfs and fsck):
e2fsprogs
reiserfsprogs
dosfstools
xfsprogs
jfsutils
I think it'd be a good thing if Policy suggested
to use a commonly agreed naming sch
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If they're not in /usr, they're off-limits.
>
> As are the POSIX utilities for determining whether or not they're in
> /usr.
What POSIX utilities do you mean? (I don't have that standard handy.)
SUSv[23] provide "command -v" as the standard way.
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let me be perfectly clear:
>
> KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OF XFREE86.
Chill. Nobody will touch your preciousss.
Anyway, what prevents the documentation of existing practise in
policy? I.e. inserting an additional dependency on "command -v",
perhaps to be
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I have just had a bug filed on a package I recently adopted (#27),
my new version of which replaces the /usr/share/doc/foo directory with a
symlink to /usr/share/doc/bar, where foo depends on bar. This is
because both foo and bar build fr
hen I originally
created the package. I don't feel libid3-3.7.13 is accurate, either.
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Can a file that is not human readable (editable) be a conffile?
gnome-libs-data declares /etc/mime-magic.dat (which is some kind of
binary database generated from the textual conffile /etc/mime-magic)
as such. The maintainer thinks this is correct -- I obviously don't.
I'm bringing this up on -po
I propose that instead of calling "ldconfig", maintainer scripts of
packages containing shared libraries should call "ldconfig -X".
Background:
ldconfig has two purposes:
1. For each shared library, create/update a symbolic link from the
library's soname to the library file. The link is only ch
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:41:39PM +, Tim Haynes wrote:
> Robert Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > So long as you don't mail a CD, cross a border, or force-feed to a mirror
> > in one of the 7 victim countries, then you're fine.
>
> But, if you
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 01:10:55PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > * DFSG free programs with crypto can be made and (re)distributed
> > from the US now, as long as you don't consciously export it to
> > one of 7 countries which are on a special blacklist
>
> Of course th
hi,
i found a typo in the policy document as published on
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch3.html.
fix:
:%s/KB_Backspace/KB_BackSpace/g
proof:
:r !grep -i backspace /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h
#define XK_BackSpace0xFF08 /* back space, back char */
rj
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> > There have been no formal objections, I hope that's enough concensus to
> > move forward.
>
> First, I'
se reassign the bug to include ftp.debian.org.
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Thanks for the globbing tips.
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 10:54:26AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> (of course, this will be interesting when it comes to wtmp...)
This is my point again, not everything in /var/log is an asci file -
even excluding *.gz ...
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You'll also find most people are against another section for any reason (see
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, even if someone
>decides to build a copy for themselves that uses true Motif.
Lesstiff needs to be installed and used on the same machine as the program
in order to make that program work.
I think that's an important distinction.
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ot;Typical" is
a rather bloated install that has just about everything you need. This
seems like what we want.
Not commended, unusual, bad, not useful, and worse, the antonyms of a few of
the other things listed above, have rather negative connotations.
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Robert> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> If we agree that the packaging manual has the weight of Policy,
> Robert> Currently it does not.
>
> Says who? This mailing list agreed that the packagingn manual
> has the weight of policy, and that
lowercase package names unless the package
you're building (or referring to, in other fields) is already using
uppercase.
[1] This is a bug.
> c) It makes it easier to say what package to install to learn about
>*all* Debian Policy documents ;-)
This I agree with.
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ut to be helpful even if you don't plan to
upload your package and make it available as part of the
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Making all our vendors decide for themselves what is legal to put on a CD
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I agree with Ricardas Cepas.
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> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 16:02 GMT
> From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ricardas Cepas thinks that we should map <-- to ASCII BS and `Delete'
> to ASCII DEL. Is there anyone else who agrees with him ? If not then
> I think we can safely go with my pro
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