Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2829T010700+0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:23:52PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > The packaging manually actually says it is a makefile: > > > > Yes, and that makes it policy. > > No it doesn't. Interesting. I seem to re

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > I think though, probably because policy wasn't very clear about this, > that packages in potato already look in /usr/share/doc for documentation, > so they're already broken, and this may no longer really matter. At least apache seems to still use /usr/doc. dhelp uses some i

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > Please note that not every dependency or conflict is explicit. You > can't read new manpages using an old enough man-db package, unless you > make a little bit of tweaking in the configuration file, and we don't > speak about "breakage" because of the need of this tweaking.

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:23:52PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > The packaging manually actually says it is a makefile: > > Yes, and that makes it policy. No it doesn't. Wichert. -- _ /

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:22:44AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Perhaps my logic is flawed; anyway, even if it's not official, the packaging > manual should be changed to say that non-makefile debian/rules files are > allowed. In this case, you need to replace it with "machine-independant scripts"

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-28 Thread Raul Miller
> > > has been useless more often than I liked... thanks to undocumented(1). On Mon, 28.08.00 13:03 -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > Wasn't there a policy proposal to get rid of these bogus pages? On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 07:50:29PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > ... to be replaced by what? The ma

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-28 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On Mon, 28.08.00 13:03 -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > has been useless more often than I liked... thanks to undocumented(1). > Wasn't there a policy proposal to get rid of these bogus pages? ... to be replaced by what? The maintainers simply won't write manpages en mass, so when deleting undo

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote: > The Policy says: > > This manual does _not_ describe the technical mechanisms involved in > package creation, installation, and removal. This information can be > found in the _Debian Packaging Manual_ and the _Debian System > Administrators' Manual_. > >

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:03:45PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > > The packaging manually actually says it is a makefile: > > > > Yes, and that makes it policy. > > > > > I don't know if Manoj succeeded in making the packaging man a part of the > > > policy. > > > > That's the way it is, if I'm no

Bug#65847: no mention of Build-Depends-Indep in chapter 4

2000-08-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 07:24:00PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Whats Build-Depends-Indep for anyway? > > > > Read chapter 8 for the answer to your question. > > I did, but thats pretty unclear. Currently I wouldn't know which one > to use and I map both to Build-Depends for the autobuild

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote: > > The packaging manually actually says it is a makefile: > > Yes, and that makes it policy. > > > I don't know if Manoj succeeded in making the packaging man a part of the > > policy. > > That's the way it is, if I'm not mistaken. This is news to me; when did it happen? --

non-setgid mail MUAs

2000-08-28 Thread Matt Kraai
Howdy, Policy 3.2.1.0 states that MUAs should be setgid mail. This is so that they can create lockfiles in /var/spool/mail. This has the unfortunate consequence that MUA bugs can be exploited to read the email of other users. A setgid mail locking utility has been added to liblockfile so that M

Bug#70442: [PATCH] misspellings in menu-policy.sgml

2000-08-28 Thread Matt Kraai
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.2.1.0 Two misspellings in menu-policy.sgml managed to slip by uncorrected. The attached patch fixes them. Thanks to Colin Watson for noticing these the first time through. Matt --- menu-policy.sgml.orig Mon Aug 28 10:36:18 2000 +++ menu-policy.sgmlMon

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:36:16PM +0200, "J?rgen A. Erhard" wrote: > "dpkg -L foo |grep man" > > has been useless more often than I liked... thanks to undocumented(1). Yep, another reason for getting rid of that junk. [Personally, I've got dpkg redirected so that the cover script fires up a li

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:23:52PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Which is rather unwarranted... all that should be necessary is a executable > > file that can act differently based on the first command-line argument > > passed to it. Whether it is makefile, a shell or a Perl script, or even a

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-28 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
"dpkg -L foo |grep man" has been useless more often than I liked... thanks to undocumented(1). Just my EU 0.02 Bye, J -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 My WebHome: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard Debian GNU/Linux (http://w

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 05:59:11PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Which is rather unwarranted... all that should be necessary is a executable > file that can act differently based on the first command-line argument > passed to it. Whether it is makefile, a shell or a Perl script, or even a > compiled

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 05:59:11PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Which is rather unwarranted... all that should be necessary is a executable > file that can act differently based on the first command-line argument > passed to it. Whether it is makefile, a shell or a Perl script, or even a > comp

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 06:53:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > Hmm, the dependency on make is flawed, as it is perfectly possible to > > write debian/rules that is a perl script, for example. > > If you find a flaw in my application of the criteria, bug reports against > build-essenti

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Ben Collins
> If someone wants to create another build daemon (for i386!) and can't > be bothered to install debhelper, I personally am not going to feel > sorry for them. FYI, the build daemons assume debhelper is build essential just to preserve sanity. That does not make build-deps any less important, howe

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2828T172935+0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > An informational list can be found in package `build-essential'. > > (NOTE: Don't file bugs about debhelper against this package. They will > > be summarily closed. If you feel that the criteria for selecting > > build-essential packages are wrong

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 28 Aug 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 2828T153322+0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > anyway. BTW, what is the list of "build essential packages"? I'm > > assuming that gcc libc6-dev etc. don't need to be put in. However, > > this isn't discussed in the packaging manual at section

Bug#64004: marked as done (debian-policy : proposal for mp3-encoder virtual package)

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Bug#65847: no mention of Build-Depends-Indep in chapter 4

2000-08-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 07:08:23PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Package: packaging-manual > Version: 3.1.1.1 > > Whats Build-Depends-Indep for anyway? You're right, they should all be mentioned in chapter 4. Read chapter 8 for the answer to your question. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-