Re: On Policy Compliance (was Re: static user IDs)

1999-09-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Sep 19, Raul Miller wrote: > You seem to be saying that issueing new policy doesn't prevent a person > from issuing a package under an old policy and that therefore there's > no advantage in writing policy so that the new policy still accepts the > old practice. Well, it's more like issuing a n

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 20, Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Please provide a rationale. Some of my packages need a static ID (64000 >> >is assigned, the only one assigned so far) because their spool could >> >need to be NFS shared. > >static user id´s are a _problem_ with nfs, not a help. >

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 20, Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And my home directory could be NFS stored---does that mean that uid/gid >1000 should always and forever belong to knghtbrd on every system? If your site has NFS mounted home directories then all user accounts are be created by the admin with

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 20, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What packages need a ID that could be shared over NFS? ie what >packages *need* a static ID? The packages related to fidonet. The suite needs both a news server and a modem, so it's not an uncommon setup to run ifcico on the machine with the mode

Re: [PROPOSED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts

1999-09-20 Thread Brian White
> > As such, I think Debian's system should be altered a bit. I recommend using > > instead the name "/cgi-lib/" for scripts under /usr/lib/cgi-bin/. This > > will keep both features independant and not affect the general use of > > the system. > > > > More information about this as well as some

Re: [PROPOSED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 10:33:55AM -0400, Brian White wrote: > As such, I think Debian's system should be altered a bit. I recommend using > instead the name "/cgi-lib/" for scripts under /usr/lib/cgi-bin/. This > will keep both features independant and not affect the general use of > the system.

Re: starting/stopping daemons in package scripts

1999-09-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > For example, by using reload in the postinst, the downtime of services can > probably be minimized at an upgrade (instead using stop in the prerm and > start in the postinst). s/reload in the postinst/restart in the postinst/ 1. 'reload' is not a ma

Re: fhs transition issue

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 03:59:13PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 11:03:05PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > I've seen some people claim that the FHS transition issue has been > > handled, but we still don't have a policy for it. > > Didn't the Technical Committee cho

Re: [PROPOSED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts

1999-09-20 Thread Brian White
I'd like to re-open discussion on a proposal I made some time ago. The current policy on the setting of "cgi-bin" tends to interfere with how most webmasters set up their sites. Most people setting up a web site expect /cgi-bin/ to be available for scripts on their site. Unfortunately, Debian u

Processed: reopen

1999-09-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 32263 [PROPOSED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts Bug#32263: [REJECTED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts Changed Bug title. > severity 32263 wishlist Bug#32263: [PROPOSED] Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts S

Re: fhs transition issue

1999-09-20 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 11:03:05PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > I've seen some people claim that the FHS transition issue has been > handled, but we still don't have a policy for it. Didn't the Technical Committee choose one some time ago? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http:

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >static user id´s are a _problem_ with nfs, not a help. >that´s why this proposal is: if the user id is read via /etc/passwd >(or whatever you use), it is possible to sync the user id´s in >a nfs network environment. > >with compiled in user ids it is not p

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Things like qmail and postfix should not really be sharing queues over NFS = >and >hence do not need static IDs (am I right?). Its not the queues or the data files I am worried about. Someone else said that this was an issue, but I remain unconvinced. /va

Re: question

1999-09-20 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Do we follow the informal procedure for proposals of new virtual packages? > Or are they generally just added with little fanfare? > > I'm not sure if I should include them in my policy summary. I think we follow the usual procedures for proposals of new

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
> >Please provide a rationale. Some of my packages need a static ID (64000 > >is assigned, the only one assigned so far) because their spool could > >need to be NFS shared. static user id´s are a _problem_ with nfs, not a help. that´s why this proposal is: if the user id is read via /etc/passwd (o

Bug#45561: [PROPOSAL] tech-ctte: /usr/share/doc

1999-09-20 Thread Joseph Carter
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.0.1 Severity: wishlist The technical committee has been asked to resolve the issue of what to do with /usr/share/doc. I propose we actually adopt their decision. I propose further that we don't bother to have discussion--we're past all that. The decision has be

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 10:32:59AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 19, Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I think the practice of using static IDs should be deprecated (and > >packages doing it should get lintian warnings..) I disagree with banning > Please provide a rationale. Some

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Edward Betts
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >My understanding was that static IDs were for packages that did include the > >code to support dynamic IDs. There is no really reason at all for a package > >to > >have a static ID. > > Wrong! Lets demonstrate by

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >My understanding was that static IDs were for packages that did include the >code to support dynamic IDs. There is no really reason at all for a package to >have a static ID. Wrong! Lets demonstrate by counter example: [511] [snoopy:bam] ~ >ls -ld /usr/b

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-20 Thread Edward Betts
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >Please provide a rationale. Some of my packages need a static ID (64000 > >is assigned, the only one assigned so far) because their spool could > >need to be NFS shared. > > As the maintainer of diskless, I am curi

fhs transition issue

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
Hi, I've seen some people claim that the FHS transition issue has been handled, but we still don't have a policy for it. I personally don't feel comfortable drafting a policy but I will if no one else does. At the moment, there does not even exist a /usr/doc/lintian, and people are still dealing

Bug#45406: PROPOSAL] Config files must have manpages

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 08:25:32PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Yech. What's wrong with 'dpkg -S /etc/profile'? I suppose I should have used /etc/ftpusers as my example. However, you're right: dpkg -S gets it right most of the time. -- Raul

Bug#45406: PROPOSAL] Config files must have manpages

1999-09-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 18-Sep-99, 23:23 (CDT), Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 01:23:53PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: > > (Actually, if there is any easy way to use the debian package > > management system to find out this info, I suppose that would make me > > more than happy...) >