Re: The get-orig-source target as stated in Policy 4.9

2008-02-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t the policy directive means, there are no critical integration needs being served by this policy dictum, and it can be safely removed. manoj -- You will probably marry after a very brief courtship. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>

Re: Need some tips on building Debian packages

2008-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ve received is that "we > are not RedHat, try to get over it." We are also not scared of free software development models, where users are supposed to be given the sources. If they are to be discouraged from fiddling with the source cod4e, why get all hot and bothered

Re: Need some tips on building Debian packages

2008-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ing the source, and dh_make >> gives me template files in "debian" for control, rules and such. > Only use dh_make once per package - there should be no need to ever > run dh_make again. I have a hand crafted mechanism to build packages. manoj -- Perhaps th

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e changes. This can only work if the topic branches are non-overlapping; and that might cover a lot of cases, but not all. I am not so sure it is indeed a canonical way of doing things in Debian. If it is, which canon do you follow? manoj -- An economist is a man w

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
a stacked patch set. I am not going to presume by telling you that either approach is inferior, though I certain have an opinion. I do have a emacs package you can look at for details, if you wish: http://git.debian.org/git/users/srivasta/debian/vm.git manoj -- Oh my GOD

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ntegration branch, which has all the topic branches applied, is where the package binary comes from). So the diff.gz is what was applied to the upstream source to get the result, not the patches derived from the topic branches. Probably only makes a difference for a security audit. m

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:41:20 +0300, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sunday 01 June 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:19:02 -0500, Paul Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: >> > You may recall I was the one who ask

Re: the quality of Debian's diff.gz

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
age of Web 2.0, requiring an intrnet connection is not an anathema; and neither is shipping the sources in 3.0 (git) format, though I do believe people disagree. manoj -- Clear the laundromat!! This whirl-o-matic just had a nuclear meltdown!! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <htt

Re: the quality of Debian's diff.gz

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:37:43 +0300, George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sunday 01 June 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > True. This is cool and helpful for the DD point of view while >> > working with their $VCS, but might leave users of diff.gz with one &

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ept for contacting > the maintainer and offering help to convert to a patch system --- with > no guarantees that he will accept. I will resoundingly reject these changes. manoj -- You two ought to be more careful--your love could drag on for years and years. Manoj Srivast

Re: New Packager question again: can you point me to a not flawed package?

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:12:14 -0500, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:19:02 -0500, Paul Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> >>

Re: the quality of Debian's diff.gz

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
anticipate seldom occurs; what we least expect generally happens. Bengamin Disraeli Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: the quality of Debian's diff.gz

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:59:06 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I said that a stacked diff was impossible to create m4echanically >> from topic branches. > Given the topic and the merged branch, though, ther

Re: the quality of Debian's diff.gz

2008-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e in point. manoj -- I exist, therefore I am paid. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: zoo: directory traversal security bug

2005-07-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
give people a false sense of what being a DD entails? manoj -- Human resources are human first, and resources second. Garbers Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Policy documentation on debconf

2005-12-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
noj -- Old timer, n.: One who remembers when charity was a virtue and not an organization. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Policy documentation on debconf

2005-12-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:27:04 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 09:23:23PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 19:59:07 -0200, Rogério Brito >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> On Dec 25 2005, Lio

Re: Policy documentation on debconf

2005-12-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
I think you really need to go read policy again. manoj -- You have a truly strong individuality. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

2005-12-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
rators who have demonstrated a commitment to the project are rare. manoj -- Vulcans believe peace should not depend on force. Amanda, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.3 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print

Re: Native package or not?

2006-02-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
I had instead just truncaterd the file, it would be removed from the unpacked tree, while remaining as a zero byte file in my SCM, but removing it from my SCM means it remains in the tree after dpkg-source -x. ironic, I think. manoj -- Depart not from the path which fa

Re: Bad practice to make a package depend on a specific kernel image

2006-12-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
that begins well will end badly. (Note: The converse of Pudder's law is not true.) Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: RFS: liblinux-kernelsort-perl | Simple sorting library for kernel version strings

2006-12-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- I've always made it a solemn practice to never drink anything stronger than tequila before breakfast. -- R. Nesson Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBS

Re: Bad practice to make a package depend on a specific kernel image

2007-01-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:33:34 +1100, Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 01:52 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:20:56 +1100, Robert Collins >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > What you need to do i

Re: Tone-of-voice used by sponsors

2007-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
kages shall not pass the criteria being employed; and perhaps some leeway ought to be allowed. manoj -- Publishing a volume of verse is like dropping a rose petal down the Grand Canyon and waiting for the echo. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~sri

Re: Removing self-managed conffiles?

2007-01-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
re software. If you find it so frustrating, write up a generic tool, and contribute it. And that would follow the grand old UNIX tradition of each command doing one thing well. manoj -- "Flattery is all right -- if you don't inhale." Adlai Stevenson Manoj Srivas

Re: Removing self-managed conffiles?

2007-01-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:17:27 +0100, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 10:31:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> This is the beauty of fre software. If you find it so frustrating, >> write up a generic tool, and contribute it. And that would fo

Re: Removing self-managed conffiles?

2007-01-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:46:20 +0100, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 11:38:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:17:27 +0100, Marc Haber >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> There is no need to fork ucf

Re: SVN snapshot versioning

2007-01-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n to the future version will work. The only future version which won't work is a version that compares lower than 2.1 (like, 2.1~~), so the suggestion is valid. manoj -- Klatu barada nikto. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24

Re: Removing self-managed conffiles?

2007-01-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
el that the right place to do this is the tool that claims > to be able to replace dpkg conffile (sic!) handling, ucf. Why should ucf be involved at all? This is not what ucf does. manoj -- This is NOT a repeat. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debi

Re: Required package in build-deps?

2007-01-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
uch priority should > not be added to build-deps... If the package is not essential or build essential, you do need to add the required build dependency. manoj -- I appoint you ambassador to Fantasy Island!!! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian

Re: Are (c)debootstrap broken ?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
.. bleakness ... desolation ... plastic forks ... Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Are (c)debootstrap broken ?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 9 May 2007 01:22:23 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:49:53AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, On Wed, 9 May 2007 09:24:16 +0900, Charles Plessy >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Dear all, I do not know

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and fakeroot

2007-07-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e at which a disease spreads through a corn field is a precise measurement of the speed of blight. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and fakeroot

2007-07-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
as checks to see if some files are (correctly) unreadable, which would fail if the check was run as root. I actually check to see if the check is being run as root, and, if so, su to nobody to run the test suite. manoj -- A hammer sometimes misses its mark - a bouquet never. Manoj Srivas

Re: Auto-building many manpages: redundant work for the buildds ?

2007-07-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
less you can demonstrate it is policy that is buggy), even if they are not RC bugs. manoj -- "I got rid of my husband. The cat was allergic." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 2

Re: Sponsor Checklist

2007-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
s for the source, does the signature still match? manoj (wiki updated) -- The best way to avoid responsibility is to say, "I've got responsibilities." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B4

Re: Sponsor Checklist

2007-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e to insis; they can just make it so. I hope DD's do the actual tend build/clean/rebuild/piuparts-run personally. Therefore I actually am only insistent on the sources being available, since I usually discard the pre-build .debs anyway. manoj -- YOW!! I'm in a very

Re: info about puiparts

2007-07-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:14:51 +0800, Thomas Goirand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hmm. Since the DD/sponsor is the one who creates the uploaded >> packages, they do not have to insis; they can just make it so. I hope >> DD's do the

Re: Sponsor Checklist

2007-07-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:53:49 +0100, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:40:26 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hmm. Since the DD/sponsor is the one who creates the uploaded >> packages, they do not have to insi

Re: Sponsor Checklist

2007-08-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:28:07 +0100, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:13:03 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:53:49 +0100, Neil Williams >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > I c

Re: mini-dinstall, repository signing and apt-get authentication

2007-08-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Here is how I manage my people.d.o repo. The following is ~/bin/update-archive: #!/bin/bash # -*- Mode: Sh -*- # update_archive --- # Author : Manoj Srivastava ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) # Created On : Tue May 10 10:14:46 2005 # Created On

Re: Suggests vs. Recommends

2007-08-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
pick and choose the plugins they want installed. manoj -- Man is demolishing nature ... We are killing things that keep us alive. Thor Heyerdahl Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA D

Re: RFS/RFC: sketch - 3D line drawings from scene descriptions

2007-09-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
quilt/other patch system seems too much. I actually prefer to make changes directly, and do not use a patching system (I prefer using my SCM system keep track of feature branches, and try to keep all my feature branches, as well as my integration branch, compilable at all times.

Re: Bug#534866: ITP: kernelcheck -- tool for an automated build of a kernel from the latest source

2009-07-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
gt; reported usability bugs against kernel-package to make it more > suitable (if it isn't already) for users? would it be better to > concentrate on just one standard tool an make it the best? I'll be happy to add on to the kernel-package tool set, and am happier sti

Re: Package uploaded with UNRELEASED distribution.

2009-08-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
check the changelog before uploading, which might also mean the package may have other issues as well. manoj -- "Dump the condiments. If we are to be eaten, we don't need to taste good." "Visionaries" cartoon Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivast

Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2009-10-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ly fix. manoj -- Deprive a mirror of its silver and even the Czar won't see his face. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian

Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2009-10-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e. If you are learning how to package stuff, concentrate on things you _do_ need to fix. Move on to helping fix lintian once you are comfortable with packaging, and have developed some judgment about where lintian ought to be heading. manoj -- The more control, the more that requir

Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2009-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Oct 20 2009, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:28:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 20 2009, George Danchev wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 20 2009, Paul Wise wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jan H

Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2009-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Oct 20 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi Manoj, > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [...] >> >> I find that experimental and pedantic add far too much >> irrelevant chatter, and that it tends to mask the problems one should >> actually fix. >

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Oct 21 2009, Ben Finney wrote: > Jan Hauke Rahm writes: >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 04:12:21AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > There is a time and a place where these lintian options are >> > useful. They certainly have a place, and are recomm

Re: RFS: ampache (updated package)

2009-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Oct 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi Manoj, > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 20 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> >>> Hi Manoj, >>> >>> Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> [...] >>>> >>>>

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." -Isaac Asimov Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 22 2009, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Oct 22 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> > I also think that style issues should not be a part of even >> > Pedantic checks. If a package is using a different, and arguably

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 22 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> I also think that style issues should not be a part of even >> Pedantic checks. If a package is using a different, and arguably >> better style, then lintian should keep its nose out.

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 22 2009, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Oct 22 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I am all for idea if it is _my_ style which is selected, and every >> one else's style will be warned against. > > I'm not all for the idea of having just one style. I knew tha

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Oct 23 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 22 October 2009 22:37:54 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 22 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> I also think that style issues should not be a part of eve

Re: Lintian pickiness and packaging improvements

2009-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Oct 23 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 23 October 2009 11:15:16 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 23 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > On Thursday 22 October 2009 22:37:54 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 22 2009, Raphael

Re: piuparts, how to interpret logs ???

2009-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
lution for you is to test whether the command is still there: , | if which ucf >/dev/null; then | ucf --purge "$CONFIG_FILE"; | fi | if which ucfr >/dev/null; then | ucfr --purge ${package_name} "$CONFIG_FILE" | fi ` manoj -- Love is in the offing.

Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
their own changes at either stage. manoj -- When a camel flies, no one laughs if it doesn't get very far! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-m

Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
iles shipped by upstream. Not really analogous to what Don was talking about. manoj -- This generation doesn't have emotional baggage. We have emotional moving vans. Bruce Feirstein Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093

Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
is cold. need a hot secretary to warm it up. -- Seen on #Linux Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: RFS: pidgin-skype

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
eal source. > > Guys you are getting ridicuolous. Actually, your posting is perhaps the only one that meets this criteria. What is so wrong about insisting on the preferred form of modification? manoj -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Gan

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/ be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n removes foo.txt, dpkg will happily remove it. So, the user is well advised not to trust any user data under /usr/share, should be using /usr/local anyway. Given that, while a trifle odd, I see nothing wrong in removing and recreating /usr/share/doc/ with every install.

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/ be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Nov 29 2009, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > Hi, Manoj: > > On Sunday 29 November 2009 04:53:05 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 28 2009, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: >> > Strongly questionable: notes about package emacs, installed via package >> > manager mi

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/ be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
there are probably better solutions that can be arrived at. manoj -- "The Computer made me do it." Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/ be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
not /usr/local) are not guaranteed, and there should be no expectation of them being preserved. manoj -- If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, get up. You're the sucker. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272

Re: Renaming a package

2003-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
with a >> fair amount of stuff installed, expect to spend all day fixing it. >> -- The response should be to determine where these glitches lie and fix them, rather than just compromising on quality. > I would like to add to this experience that all the package

Re: Renaming a package

2003-10-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:58:37 +0200, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:16:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 10:03:11 +0200, Andreas Metzler >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > [...] >>> quot

Re: Packaging phpLDAPadmin. Newbie's questions.

2003-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
elling at the primate teenager for sitting around and sulking all day instead of hunting for grubs and berries like dad primate. Then you'd see the primate teenager stomp up to his branch and slam the leaves. Dave Barry, "Kids Today: They Don't Know Dum Diddly Do" Manoj Srivasta

Re: Packaging phpLDAPadmin. Newbie's questions.

2003-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:02:04 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:32:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:46:35 +1100, Matthew Palmer >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > the user hasn't used d

Re: Packaging phpLDAPadmin. Newbie's questions.

2003-11-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
. No, thank you," replied the gentleman. "Anything for your wife, sir?" the bellhop asked. "Why, yes, young man," said the gentleman. "Would you bring me a postcard?" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C72

Re: RFS: libfilesys-smbclient-perl

2003-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ut some days, when there was a bad storm outside, you'd look out your little window and think, "Boy, I'm glad I'm not out in that." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: looking for a sponsor

2004-10-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t circumstances they were dealing with -- they may not have a choice about the OS/MUA at this point. We should be inviting to people who are trying to help Debian while not yet on a free platform, rather than exposing our own prejudices and pre-judgements. manoj -- Delta: A real

Re: sponsor wanted for 'ketchup' package

2004-07-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
his thread. What does ketchup do? manoj -- "I've got some amyls. We could either party later or, like, start his heart." "Cheech and Chong's Next Movie" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: RFS:cross-compiler package

2004-08-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
s the powerpc64 :) Would you be willing to write up your experience doing the cross compile, and perhaps a mini-howto that I could include in kernel-package? manoj -- Etiquette is for those with no breeding; fashion for those with no taste. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &

Re: How to determine header dependencies for -dev packages

1998-05-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
st, but it'll work. manoj -- "Everyone's head is a cheap movie show." Jeff G. Bone Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: How to determine header dependencies for -dev packages

1998-05-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
; x ($indent / 8), ' ' x ($indent % 8), $filename; print " DUPLICATE" if $seen{$filename}++; print "\n"; $indent += $shiftwidth; push(@stack,$filename); } } close CPP; $indent = 0; %seen

Re: First package: A library

1998-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
re info] Why not go one step further and use the acceted interface to chengelogs? SRC_VERSION := $(shell LC_ALL=C dpkg-parsechangelog | grep ^Version: | sed 's/^Version: *//') I think this is more robust ;-) manoj -- "The worst thing is when you ha

Re: /usr/share?

1998-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
is not a bad idea to use /usr/share (in my opinion). We already have precedence. manoj -- "We walked on the moon -- you be polite." Joni Mitchell Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4

Re: /usr/share?

1998-06-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
you seeing? Marcelo> Cluttering /usr/share/ with loads of $package directories is Marcelo> not a really good idea. Reasons, please. especially reasons with the long term use of /usr/share in mind. manoj -- "L'extension des privileges des femmes e

Re: /usr/share?

1998-06-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
d tired of being told that ordinary decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not. But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am. Monty Python Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C72610

Re: closing bug#21739 + #22912 in xfstt

1998-06-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
you weren't my teacher, I'd think you just deleted all my files." an anonymous UCB CS student, to an instructor who had typed "rm -i *" to get rid of a file named "-f" on a Unix system. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esr

Re: tempfile <-> IO::Handle::new_tmpfile?

1998-07-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
likely to make wmaker unuseable. Prvide a small utility in /usr/s?bin to aid in conversion, so people may defer the task if they wish. manoj -- "I think Michael is like litmus paper - he's always trying to learn." Elizabeth Taylor, absurd non-sequitur about Michael Jackson

Re: circular depends: problem

1998-07-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
f. You should restrain yourself, yourself. When you are self-protected like that, you will live happily as a bhikkhu. 379 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNS

Re: configuration file question

1998-07-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
s" (I would prefer the first). Then, do nothing unless you find the line /^CONFIGURED=\"Not Yet\"/. manoj -- "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." Adlai Stevenson Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esriva

Re: Kernel version check, init scripts

1998-07-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
l your rafters are broken, your ridge-pole shattered. My mind is free from active thought, and has made an end of craving. 153, 154 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6

Re: libmsgcat and sympa : my first packages

1998-08-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
be doing, but I am quite uneasy abot this practice too (Oh, I know other packages do it too, like hylafax; it still makes me feel uneasy). This also seems to violate the "do not modify another packages files" rule, but I have no solution short of requesting the sysklogd package have an

Re: libmsgcat and sympa : my first packages

1998-08-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ere is no substitute for actually reading policy ;-) In any case, isn't debstd deprecated in favour of some other helper package, possibly deb-helper or something? So deb make may indeed be considered obsolete. manoj -- Time is an illusion perpetrated by the manufacture

Re: libmsgcat and sympa : my first packages

1998-08-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raphael> Le Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 02:10:18PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: Raphael> Hi, >> Should configuration not go under /etc/sympa/? I note th you >> do have /etc/sympa.conf; are

Re: LAM packaging [update]

1998-08-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
dinary people do not know" that a bhikkhu achieves peace if he has not achieved the elimination of inflowing thoughts. 271, 272 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: Non-Maintainer Upload Qs

1998-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ahead barring serious objections. manoj -- QOTD: "You're so dumb you don't even have wisdom teeth." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: New maintainer's packaging - bewildering variety of information

1998-08-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nally, there's dupload. Like release. I use this one. It works well, and does not close bugs prematurely. I have changed it to take a default destination, so I do not have to give the --to master option if I don't want to. manoj -- The chains of marri

Re: The right way for suid-bit-programs?!

1998-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ou can write a small letter to Grandma in the filename. Forbes Burkowski, CS, University of Washington Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: real -basic- help...

1998-08-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. Lao Tsu Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-08-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
is Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: Creating two packages from one source

1998-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
rom a trap, since it is only reasonable to assume that if the player had time to concentrate on his shot, instead of hurrying it so as not to delay his partners, he would be out in two. -- Donald A. Metz Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C72

Re: what are the latest debian packaging tools.

1998-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ments, and is no longer orphaned. manoj -- Most people can't understand how others can blow their noses differently than they do. Turgenev Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: what are the latest debian packaging tools.

1998-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e what you have been doing, your doing was worthless. Edwim Schrodinger Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E

Re: what are the latest debian packaging tools.

1998-09-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ed pointing to my example files; I shall ask Jay after I refurbish my web pages. manoj -- Not in the sky, nor in the depths of the sea, nor hiding in the cleft of the rocks, there is no place on earth where one can take one's stand to escape from an evil deed. 127 Manoj Sr

Re: Contradictions for new developers (Was: what are the latest debian packaging tools.

1998-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Stephane" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephane> On Friday 4 September 1998, at 14 h 12, the keyboard of Manoj Srivastava >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You realize, I hope, that debmake is deprecated by its author, &

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