Re: pdfmerge

2004-03-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
Ben Young wrote: > Yeah... but it was said in a quite arrogant manner. Matthew Palmer said > things neatly in his first email (which I think everybody understood > correctly!), then I didn't quite like the tone of his second one. Just Yeah, the second one was a little over the top. How many previ

Re: pdfmerge

2004-03-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
Ben Young wrote: > Yeah... but it was said in a quite arrogant manner. Matthew Palmer said > things neatly in his first email (which I think everybody understood > correctly!), then I didn't quite like the tone of his second one. Just Yeah, the second one was a little over the top. How many previ

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-05 Thread Ben Young
--- Esteban Manchado Velázquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:43:26PM -0800, Ben Young > wrote: > > On 03/03/04, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > > Make that at least two. And I haven't exactly > seen > > a huge clamour of people > > > rushing to your defence in any coheren

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-05 Thread Ben Young
--- Esteban Manchado Velázquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:43:26PM -0800, Ben Young > wrote: > > On 03/03/04, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > > > Make that at least two. And I haven't exactly > seen > > a huge clamour of people > > > rushing to your defence in any coheren

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-04 Thread Esteban Manchado Velázquez
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:43:26PM -0800, Ben Young wrote: > On 03/03/04, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > Make that at least two. And I haven't exactly seen > a huge clamour of people > > rushing to your defence in any coherent fashion. > > It's not a bad concept, > > > > You are free to take your

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-04 Thread Esteban Manchado Velázquez
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:43:26PM -0800, Ben Young wrote: > On 03/03/04, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > Make that at least two. And I haven't exactly seen > a huge clamour of people > > rushing to your defence in any coherent fashion. > > It's not a bad concept, > > > > You are free to take your

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Michael Schiansky
r a one liner. > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > Should it go into gs-common and the like? yes. > Or is it package-able on its own? well.. a 1 line shell-script doesn't require an own package IMO even i wouldn't come up with the gs-co

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Michael Schiansky
r a one liner. > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > Should it go into gs-common and the like? yes. > Or is it package-able on its own? well.. a 1 line shell-script doesn't require an own package IMO even i wouldn't come up with the gs-co

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Philipp Gortan
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: pdftk - A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents Totally right, but: depends: libgcj4 (>= 1:3.3.2-1) Java runtime library for use with gcj -- When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:33:39AM +0100, Philipp Gortan wrote: > Thomas Viehmann wrote: > >The proper place for the script (after doing things right) is > >ghostscript upstream. Take a look at pdf2ps and try to get your program > >next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one line

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Philipp Gortan
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: pdftk - A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents Totally right, but: depends: libgcj4 (>= 1:3.3.2-1) Java runtime library for use with gcj -- When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:33:39AM +0100, Philipp Gortan wrote: > Thomas Viehmann wrote: > >The proper place for the script (after doing things right) is > >ghostscript upstream. Take a look at pdf2ps and try to get your program > >next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one line

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Philipp Gortan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the question is: If I am a non-professional user and i wanted > to merge a bunch of pdf files, would I know what to look for in > dselect? killer ~ % apt-cache search merge pdf pdftk - A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents -- * Sufficie

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Ben Young
> > download the whole package of 32mb of a larger > unknown > > program with another weird name just to get that > > script running. > > While I totally agree with you, this point doesn't > work here as pdfmerge > is dependent on gs-common, so apt will fetch

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Philipp Gortan
just to get that script running. While I totally agree with you, this point doesn't work here as pdfmerge is dependent on gs-common, so apt will fetch it for you anyhow... I think the question is: If I am a non-professional user and i wanted to merge a bunch of pdf files, would I know wh

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
w Palmer wrote: > >Eh? Where has someone said "we do not want pdfmerge in Debian"? There have > >been queries about your implementation, and about your intentions to produce > >a separate package for it, and a (quite valid) suggestion to submit it to GS > >upstream.

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Ben Young
end it will benefit us all. If the RH community is already doing an "pt-get install pdfmerge" to get the program in and running. Why not us? > > But then we end up with the redhat madness where > it's hard to find a > particular program because it has been lumped in > with

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Philipp Gortan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the question is: If I am a non-professional user and i wanted > to merge a bunch of pdf files, would I know what to look for in > dselect? killer ~ % apt-cache search merge pdf pdftk - A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents -- * Sufficie

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Ben Young
> > download the whole package of 32mb of a larger > unknown > > program with another weird name just to get that > > script running. > > While I totally agree with you, this point doesn't > work here as pdfmerge > is dependent on gs-common, so apt will fetch

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
w Palmer wrote: > >Eh? Where has someone said "we do not want pdfmerge in Debian"? There have > >been queries about your implementation, and about your intentions to produce > >a separate package for it, and a (quite valid) suggestion to submit it to GS > >upstream.

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Philipp Gortan
to get that script running. While I totally agree with you, this point doesn't work here as pdfmerge is dependent on gs-common, so apt will fetch it for you anyhow... I think the question is: If I am a non-professional user and i wanted to merge a bunch of pdf files, would I know what to

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Jepri
p is a one-liner. And if we all went to Perl, we could have perl regular expressions instead of the horrible POSIX ones. I wouldn't bet on it if I were you. This script is in the ATrpms repository <http://atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/> and many people from RH/Fedora world are alread

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Ben Young
end it will benefit us all. If the RH community is already doing an "pt-get install pdfmerge" to get the program in and running. Why not us? > > But then we end up with the redhat madness where > it's hard to find a > particular program because it has been lumped in > with

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Ben Young
Common guys I think you're being harsh w/ the poor lad. He wrote something that he wants to share and instead of supporting him, you're trying to nail him down on the list. I like and use pdfmerge daily and I would want to see it in Debian too. I wasn't aware of the one liner. :-( Wh

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Didier Casse
t your program > > >next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. > > > > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > > Should it go into gs-common and the like? > > Or is it package-able on its own? > >

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Jepri
iner. And if we all went to Perl, we could have perl regular expressions instead of the horrible POSIX ones. I wouldn't bet on it if I were you. This script is in the ATrpms repository <http://atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/> and many people from RH/Fedora world are already doing an apt

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
> can list many, so why don't you start taking them off. Find 'em, give us one line equivalents, and I, personally, will be happy to encourage the maintainers to merge their scripts into appropriate packages. > > No. Those people would prefer to have pdfmerge without apt-get in

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Ben Young
Common guys I think you're being harsh w/ the poor lad. He wrote something that he wants to share and instead of supporting him, you're trying to nail him down on the list. I like and use pdfmerge daily and I would want to see it in Debian too. I wasn't aware of the one liner. :-( Wh

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Didier Casse
On 02/03/04, at 15:31 +0100, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. Let's assume that I'm convinced that a pdfmerge script was useful. Good start :-) > There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. > As for your "another way of doing

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
er. > > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > Should it go into gs-common and the like? > Or is it package-able on its own? If, as I've discerned from the discussions going on here, pdfmerge is a trivial script which does one small thing, it sho

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Didier Casse
t your program > > >next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. > > > > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > > Should it go into gs-common and the like? > > Or is it package-able on its own? > >

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
> can list many, so why don't you start taking them off. Find 'em, give us one line equivalents, and I, personally, will be happy to encourage the maintainers to merge their scripts into appropriate packages. > > No. Those people would prefer to have pdfmerge without apt-get in

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Didier Casse
On 02/03/04, at 15:31 +0100, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. Let's assume that I'm convinced that a pdfmerge script was useful. Good start :-) > There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. > As for your "another way of doing

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
er. > > ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of you think? > Should it go into gs-common and the like? > Or is it package-able on its own? If, as I've discerned from the discussions going on here, pdfmerge is a trivial script which does one small thing, it sho

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
Thomas Viehmann wrote: The proper place for the script (after doing things right) is ghostscript upstream. Take a look at pdf2ps and try to get your program next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. Hi mentors, ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the res

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
Thomas Viehmann wrote: The proper place for the script (after doing things right) is ghostscript upstream. Take a look at pdf2ps and try to get your program next to that. There's no reason to produce packages for a one liner. Hi mentors, ok, so we know the opinion of Thomas, what does the rest of

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
.] OK. Let's assume that I'm convinced that a pdfmerge script was useful. > It is small things that make up big things. :-p This small script has > entered several big projects, both GPL and non-GPL. Besides like Philipp > said, it's another way of doing things. The proper place fo

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
.] OK. Let's assume that I'm convinced that a pdfmerge script was useful. > It is small things that make up big things. :-p This small script has > entered several big projects, both GPL and non-GPL. Besides like Philipp > said, it's another way of doing things. The proper place fo

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Didier Casse
I'm in a mentor's list and here, most people would say "I knew it... pfff so trivial". But I can assure you that many common/layman people do not know this and prefer to download my script and achieve their results fast rather than reading the manpage of ghostview. Manu peopl

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
Hi Thomas, hi mentors, Thomas Viehmann wrote: - The script randomly overwrites files in the CWD. issue fixed, pdfmerge now uses File::Temp for secure creation... Version 1.0-5 as usual at <http://mr.technikum-wien.at/~mephinet/pdfmerge/> Interested, anyone? :-) Regards, Philipp

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Didier Casse
I'm in a mentor's list and here, most people would say "I knew it... pfff so trivial". But I can assure you that many common/layman people do not know this and prefer to download my script and achieve their results fast rather than reading the manpage of ghostview. Manu peopl

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
hat is the difference? You're right that there are different ways to achieve the goal. Didn't knew that was a bad idea... On a second set of documents, both barfed on the input pdf... Sure, pdfmerge can't do what ghostscript can't do... - The script randomly overwrites files in

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
Hi Thomas, hi mentors, Thomas Viehmann wrote: - The script randomly overwrites files in the CWD. issue fixed, pdfmerge now uses File::Temp for secure creation... Version 1.0-5 as usual at <http://mr.technikum-wien.at/~mephinet/pdfmerge/> Interested, anyone? :-) Regards, Philipp Gortan -

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Philipp Gortan wrote: > I filed an ITP bug: http://bugs.debian.org/235659 > (didn't cc to debian-devel though, wrong header section) Which is bad, because I'm sure the package will raise the "why does every badly written, trivial script need to be included in Debian?" question. Just two things: - p

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-02 Thread Philipp Gortan
difference? You're right that there are different ways to achieve the goal. Didn't knew that was a bad idea... On a second set of documents, both barfed on the input pdf... Sure, pdfmerge can't do what ghostscript can't do... - The script randomly overwrites files in the C

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Philipp Gortan wrote: > I filed an ITP bug: http://bugs.debian.org/235659 > (didn't cc to debian-devel though, wrong header section) Which is bad, because I'm sure the package will raise the "why does every badly written, trivial script need to be included in Debian?" question. Just two things: - p

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:39:57PM +0100, Philipp Gortan wrote: > Should the perl script be in the "i386" architecture, or the "any"? Have a quick look at some other perl scripts, and see what they've got. And read the Debian Perl Policy, I would imagine it'd have some words of wisdom. - Matt

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Philipp Gortan
n the "i386" architecture, or the "any"? the new files are up again at http://mr.technikum-wien.at/~mephinet/pdfmerge/ thanks, cu Philipp -- When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:39:57PM +0100, Philipp Gortan wrote: > Should the perl script be in the "i386" architecture, or the "any"? Have a quick look at some other perl scripts, and see what they've got. And read the Debian Perl Policy, I would imagine it'd have some words of wisdom. - Matt

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Philipp Gortan
n the "i386" architecture, or the "any"? the new files are up again at http://mr.technikum-wien.at/~mephinet/pdfmerge/ thanks, cu Philipp -- When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Frank Küster
Philipp Gortan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi mentors, > > I packaged pdfmerge and would be happy to get it included into the > Debian distribution. > pdfmerge is a simple perl script used to merge multiple PDF files into a > single output file, using ghostscript

Re: RFS: pdfmerge

2004-03-01 Thread Frank Küster
Philipp Gortan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi mentors, > > I packaged pdfmerge and would be happy to get it included into the > Debian distribution. > pdfmerge is a simple perl script used to merge multiple PDF files into a > single output file, using ghostscript

RFS: pdfmerge

2004-02-29 Thread Philipp Gortan
Hi mentors, I packaged pdfmerge and would be happy to get it included into the Debian distribution. pdfmerge is a simple perl script used to merge multiple PDF files into a single output file, using ghostscript. program: pdfmerge version: 1.0 homepage: http://pdfmerge4unix.sf.net/ Author

RFS: pdfmerge

2004-02-29 Thread Philipp Gortan
Hi mentors, I packaged pdfmerge and would be happy to get it included into the Debian distribution. pdfmerge is a simple perl script used to merge multiple PDF files into a single output file, using ghostscript. program: pdfmerge version: 1.0 homepage: http://pdfmerge4unix.sf.net/ Author