quot; It also looks like there's full symbols.
Perhaps these files are the source code, when opened with some proprietary
dsp firmware editor we don't have?
Has anyone asked IBM yet?
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packet sniffers to run illegal wiretaps, GNU shred to
destroy evidence, and xvidtune to commit arson[1]. We still distribute
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, we only look at software licenses and see if they grant us enough
permission to distribute the software while still complying with the DFSG.
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public license which
is compatible with our Debian Free Software Guidelines. If your new work is
an original work of authorship[1] and you're the copyright holder then you
can choose to license it under any terms you'd like, including terms which
would make it suitable for inclusion in Debi
rk they publish will be considered a work for hire.
This it would be impossible to publish your own recordings through a record
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> government are in the public domain.
>
Industry held copyrights in the US never expire either. Every time our
oldest copyrights near expiration, congress extends the length of copyright
by another few years.
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de now and in the future.
>
The vast majority of US copyrights that were previously set to expire
between 1998 and 2018 have been extended by another 20 years. As a result,
only a very tiny number of works will enter the public domain in the US
during the next 20 years.
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ch-and-build-from-source procedure.
>
Or compile both the modified and unmodified sources and ship the unmodified
binary with a binary delta patch.
Either way it would need to go in non-free.
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source code
provided you meet a few conditions. It appears this is not the case with the
SNNS license, which allows you to distribute modifications as patches only
and makes no mention of an exception for binaries.
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use.
>
> Do section 4 or 5 place Sphinx into non-free? I'm pretty sure 5 does but
> I'd like it confirmed.
>
The name change requirement (4) and acknowledgement requirement (5) are both
OK as far as the DFSG are concerned.
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from Unisys's claim that you need to pay for
a license to decode .gif files when you really don't.
mp3 encoders that employ the methods described in the patents are restricted
in various countries where such patents are permitted. There's probably
other ways to encode mp3's,
at is one of the most important
reasons why we must keep mpeg3 decoders as a part of Debian.
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 12:27:59PM +0200, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
>
> Has anything changed about MNGs in last 3 months ???
>
Support for mng was added to a recent build of mozilla within the past month
or so.
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
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> Delivered-
On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 09:10:29PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> On Aug 06, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > If the clickwrap license doesn't go away, dosemu should move to non-free.
> [...]
>
> Show me where the DFSG prohibits software from using clickwrap
> licenses.
Package: abcde
Version: 1.1.2-1
Severity: wishlist
If support for vorbize was added, abcde could move to main.
(I'm assuming it's in contrib because it depends on a non-free mp3 encoder)
I'm gonna be doing some hacking tonight, I'll post a patch to this bug
number if su
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:00:16AM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote:
>
> ...hmm, wonder if Vorbize can do something like VBR yet...
>
Vorbize and oggenc write VBR files by default.
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acts permitted by the license that would otherwise violate
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because of this.
Can anyone name a good replacement that can do Maildir delivery and doesn't
run tons of stuff as root?
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free's upgrade path just so the P6 microcode can be included.
Is the microcode on Intel's web site somewhere? Perhaps the postinst for
your microcode loader could go fetch it.
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nse, people who have lawfully aquired a copyrighted work have the right
to format shift it from a floppy or CD-ROM disc to bits on a hard disk.
(Note, however, that Intel may require people to agree not to use the
software for certain things before giving them a copy).
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e of a lawfully aquired
copyrighted work using only copyright.
> What I should send Intel to convince to change the license?
>
Tell them Debian can't distribute it with their operating system because
their license violates our guidelines. Point them at
http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guid
lies to the individual bricks.
Even if the part sets turn out to be restricted by copryight, one might
argue that the different types of lego bricks are like glyphs in a fontset.
Even if a fontset is restricted by copyright, documents typeset in that font
are not considered to be derived wo
non-us or
if necessary, orphan the package and allow it to be adopted by someone
outside the jurisdiction of the problem court who will then package it for
non-us. We've already done similar things to work around stupid software
patent and crypto laws in the US.
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ump and ethereal
in main just because they may be illegal for a small handful of people in
the US to use or distribute? Would someone trying to package an ethernet
sniffing library called libsniff see any trouble with their ITP? Of course
not. Let's be reasonable here.
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:52:49PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:22:58PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> > >
> > > By the SDNY's injunction being as broad as it is, I would submit that
> >
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 06:49:28PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
>
>
> > Injunctions don't apply to non-parties. If you weren't a party in Universal
> > v. Corley, the injunction doesn't apply to you. You'd certainl
iety for
creating DeCSS. Although it did not come out in court today, the
Norwegian parliament has also issued the young teen a formal apology for
the treatment he has undergone as a result of publishing the code.
(From http://www.foolishconsistency.com/ - Jul 21 2000 Update)
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e original source code tree. Since the copyright holder for qmail does
not permit binaries to be distributed except under very limited
circumstances, we distribute the qmail source only and a patch in non-free.
Note that in order to put the unmodified source in non-free, the copyright
holder must
gt; software?
>
Yes, and it's been done. Look at GNU readline and Rich Salz's editline.
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for simple things like
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On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:30:11AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:44:21AM -0500, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > This isn't neccessary. It's possible to create two sockets with
> > socketpair(), and fork(). Then close FD's 0 and 1 in the child a
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote:
> Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If you want to run a server with SSL, you can always fork() and then exec()
> > stunnel in the child to relay SSL connections in plaintext to the parent via
t non-conforming implementations could
not be distributed if they were called DivX, striking the words USING and
MODIFYING from the acceptance paragraph, and striking the words "personal"
and "non-commercial" from the acceptance paragraph, we would be closer to an
acceptable
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:31:12PM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > It's not an open source license. Term #6 places limitations on distributing
> > modified copies.
>
> la CSS, then it would not be OSD-conformant. But
ct to get permission, given the company. Any advice on
> how to word the email?
>
> Email replies ok but I'm on the list.
>
Your program is a user-agent just like any other. You need no more get
permission than the Mozilla dev team would need to get permission to
distribute the
s it avoid the patent issues, but in many
cases the resulting files are smaller play back at higher quality than the
average mp3.
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Package: ssh
Version: 1:2.2.0p1-1.1
Is there any reason why OpenSSH needs to be in non-free now that the RSA
patent has expired? Also, does it even need to be in non-us now that US
crypto regulations have been revised?
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raphic software.
Since US crypto laws have changed, it's quite possible that policy will be
updated to reflect this. Such changes, however, have not happened yet.
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Licenses at
<http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses>.
Note that UCB has given everyone a permenant grant of permission to ignore
and omit the advertising clause in software where they're the copyright
holder. For those programs, the license is now both Free and GPL compatible.
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o distribute it under.
>
> What should be the best license to suggest ?
> It's used in some GPL programs.
>
The XFree86 license, or a similar BSD style license with no advertising
clause would work just fine. These licenses are compatible with the GPL,
LGPL, and just about every ot
patch that causes
dupload to mail a copy of the upload to a list of email addresses before it
is uploaded? It could be used, for example, to automagically mail a copy to
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case any longer. Recently,
I've even seen growing consensus that it's OK to upload crypto software to
main provided you make the bxa notification before you upload. Crypto and
crypto hooks already in main includes Netscape 4, mutt, and the soon to be
uploaded Mozilla 0.8 package.
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e 192kbps joint-stereo mp2's that will play on most mpeg audio
players, this should make a decent standin for a mp3 encoder under
circumstances where other replacements like ogg vorbis may be unworkable.
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derations, including the
requirement that you make source code available to those you give binaries.
A number of people who were involved in the Mattel / Cyber Patrol matter
appealed the district court's injunction with the help of the ACLU - and
won. Since then, they have returned the C
A while back, it was stated that mpeg-1 layer 3 encoders couldn't be
packaged. I see that libavifile has a libmp3lame_audioenc that doesn't
appear to invoke an external lame binary. Has Debian's policy on layer 3
encoders changed?
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f current policy dictates
that PostgreSQL as it currently stands needs to go in non-us, then that's
where you should put it. Policy that requires packages depending on packages
in non-us also be in non-us will not change even if the current legal
inquiry finds that not all crypto containing uploa
n third-party plugins, but
> their copyright doesn't seem to allow it.
>
Maybe the same or similar files are available in Mozilla and could could be
used instead? I know Mozilla can use plugins intended for Netscape
Communicator 3.x and 4.x, so it's not unlikely that there exist some .h
files defining this interface in that codebase.
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to facilitate the creation
and preservation of an electronic historical record. I don't think it's
appropriate for Debian to erase or rewrite history for your benefit.
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>
The key point in Salinger v. Random House is that the letters in question
were unpublished works. Also, Hamilton signed a NDA with the two libraries
that gave him the letters. One can hardly argue that a latter sent to a
public mailing list is unpublished.
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On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:39:14PM -0500, Sam TH wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:26:04PM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > that gave him the letters. One can hardly argue that a latter sent to a
> > public mailing list is unpublished.
> >
>
> Actually, that isn
ed private communication
for profit and against the terms of a non-disclosure agreement. Neither an
expectation of privacy nor a non-disclosure agreement exists on these public
mailing lists.
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> does not qualify as "fair use". Also, the NDA applied only to some of
> the letters, and Random House lost on all of them.
>
We don't need to invoke a fair use defense because no infringement occured.
Placing the message into the archive(s) is an action implicitly authorized
by the copyright holder when they post their message to an archived public
list.
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be possible for this change to be made before the release of
Mixmaster 3.0?
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minor
> change is made to the license, I won't be able to package the software.
Could you post the entire license on debian-legal? I, at least, don't
know where to get it.
Thanks,
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was a decision made that the patent issues were no longer a problem.
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es. Policy currently requires it.
> What about the Debian source files?
Same.
> If I
> make additional non-ssl .debs from the same source, would they be in
> non-US or not?
Yes, but only if the source actually contains crypto. Source or binary,
policy currently requires export restr
that
invokes a lame binary the user already has on their system.
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. Can you suggest one? I'm thinking
> of lynx, myself.
>
lynx has seperate and distinct sources for the crypto and non-crypto
versions. Based on size alone, I suspect the non-ssl version has all the
crypto stuff ripped out (or the ssl version has it patched in).
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or murdered
by their state's government anyway. Going out of your way to provide
crippled crypto-neutered versions of things only validates such sillyness.
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:12:34PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 10:10:30PM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> >
> > Choice 3 is best. People who live in countries where the use of cryptography
> > is restricted are probably subject to being arbitrari
; Bach
>
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erpreted
the terms "best effort" and "due dilligence" much more narrowly than you
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, the license is the only thing that gives you permission to copy the
headers from the library into your program and distribute the result - if
you don't play by its rules then you have no such right at all and any
copies you make are infringing ones in most jurisdictions).
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(Note that I'm not saying such paranoia is totally unfounded. The MPAA has
in the past launched both frivilous and punitive lawsuits, SLAPP's, and
defamation campaigns against people they even mildly don't like. What's up
for debate is whether or not Debian should restrict its acti
iles from the toplevel
> interpreter uinder the gpl. But this again may change later, especially if
> they loose some of the ideological fears they may have on the GPL.
>
Why not use libeditline instead? It's source-code compatible with the basic
features of readline and has a BSD (sans
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:46:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> >
> > Why not use libeditline instead? It's source-code compatible with the basic
> > features of readline and has a BSD (sans ad clause) typ
7;s claim of copyright restrictions on fonts. One thing to keep in
mind, however, was that at the time of this decision fonts were still just
little metal blocks with raised areas intended to mechanically typeset text.
I can dig up details if needed.
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equire the user to provide their
own copy of the Windows .vxd file from which the firmware would be extracted
at runtime. In this case, the software could go in contrib. If the user is a
legitimate owner of the card in question, they probably own a copy of the
.vxd file as well and so won'
>
> I realize I can't package the last two; what about the rest of them.
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> Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org
> "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and
> laughs at me. In fact, I
de have a 1:1 correspondence, then the same thing probably applies.
Maybe those involved should check the dumps for common opcodes and try to
determine the microcontroller type to see if any of this applies. In many
cases, a commented disassembly is as good or better than the original source
code.
non-free or never be packaged.
>
> rte itself is GPL.
>
> If somebody can tell me where this package should be ?
>
> Christian
>
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program are defined as non-infringing by statute. So you don't need to
accept the GNU GPL in order to use a copy of the program which you've
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some degree, but I don't know if any software for that purpose
exists yet or how involved or tedious the process would be.
If you decide to procede further in this area, I suggest you look into
Donald Knuth's books on typeface and typesetting theory.
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t interested in packaging it at this
> time, but I might file an RFP unless someone knows of a reason why it can't
> be packaged for non-free.
>
> [0] http://www.bitkeeper.com/Sales.Licensing.Source.html
>
It's probably OK for non-free.
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depends on non-free software, it goes in non-free or contrib respectively,
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:07:37PM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 08:48:08PM -0500, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> > Make your decision based only on Debian policy. If it's Free Software, it
> > goes in Main, unless it has crypto - then it goes in non-us/main
likely that subtle changes might be required to mkae the package conform to
Debian policy, it's likely that this restriction is a non-issue.
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2, (ii,iii, and v), which restricts those who
may wish to use the software for profit. These restrictions render the
license incompatible with Free Software guideline 6, which prohibits
discrimination against fields of endeavor.
Hope to hear from you soon regarding this matter.
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>
> --On 08 August 2002 00:18 -0400 Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...]
>
> Hi, thanks for your mail. We would be interested in working something out
> to allow the Internet rel
irly sure we don't, it seems we can distribute the fonts within
the limitations established by the license, and thus without infringing on
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reports that there may be some progress in the area of getting Mixmaster's
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; No. 0482154 and filed Japanese Patent Application No. 508119/1991
> >
> > This patent expired a year ago so it shouldn't matter much.
>
> Ehhh, that's wrong. Just an ordinary off-by-10 error I think.
>
It's not clear that mixmaster actually uses IDEA. Last I checked, i
a licence specific to Debian is not going to help us
> distribute it in main, though ...
>
Actually, the author offered to relicense the problem code under the GPL for
EUR250, which would not be specific to just Debian.
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fix must not break the pdf reader's ability to display or output the
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r not.
>
No. The GPL does not place any restrictions on fair use of the material. It
only grants extra rights provided you agree to follow some rules. The GNU
General Public License specifically reads: "Activities other than copying,
distribution and modification are not covered by t
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:14:08PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> I can think of one example of this -- the GPL itself:
>
> c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when
>run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use
>in the most ord
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 04:07:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > No. The GPL does not place any restrictions on fair use of the material. It
> > only grants extra rights provided you agree to follow some rules. The GNU
>
slaves
into freedom, making hamurgers, nuclear weapons, biochemical weapons, or
comitting what their government may consider fraud or treason. Clause 6 is
there for good reason. Don't tamper with it.
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> Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:42:00AM -0600, David Starner wrote:
> > >
> > > This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like
> > > XForms, M
er that part
> of the code, they're within their rights -- but, of course, that would
> greatly limit the utility of the editor.
>
Can't alter the code in Zope, but there's nothing (other than the bogus
clause in the zope license, which is probably unenforcable anyway) tha
You're right. It would be better to just extend guideline 6 to prevent
restrictions on use, or add a new guideline prohibiting licenses that infect
the program output or data files the program is used with.
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