Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alec
Hi I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, conferences, in the library, for presenting (powerpoint) material

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you wondering what the major point you missed was, or just idly curious? > The way I see it, a laptop is basically

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Nov-2001 Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the libra

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: >I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop >instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant Well, running windows is just too tricky. One has to be very careful not to break the system (did you know that

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alec
On Friday 30 November 2001 03:50 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you wondering what the major > point you missed

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Nate Duehr
Alec, My laptop gets used as the beta site for a number of web applications I maintain (not on my domain, but others). It's nice to have a full PostgreSQL or MySQL (as needed) database, Apache, PHP and all the tools to fiddle around with on the laptop and then just copy the working code to the

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: >laptop with MS Office, etc., but I suspected that those laptop users with >Linuces on them are mostly just following their technophilic desires. Of course! I bought my laptop just because I wanted something a bit more exotic hardware where to install Linux on! (

Re: xfree video-configuration

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
I have a laptop equipped with a SiS630, too. I managed to get X 4.1.0 completely working, includung Xv. Look here: www.webit.com/tw/ -> Linux on Gericom Please mail me privately if you have further questions. Thomas -- Thomas Winischhofer Vienna/Austria Check it out: mailto:

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Dear all > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is > basically a giant PDA. People usually use them for typing down I use mine for running our LUG which includes e-mail and web page production. Also f

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Michele Mariottini
Ciao :) At 19.50 30/11/01 +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: >On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. > >Windows and Cygwin have *never* equaled, let alone beaten, my Linux >system for stability. It's

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant Personal preference for me. The Windows environment is too frustrating for me an

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Watson
On Friday 30 November 2001 10:32, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > > instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > Because Windows doesn't have any of the utilities I need. I use vi,

Re: Modem pcmcia

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew Taylor
Perhaps your laptop is having a resource conflict. On my laptop, my IRDA shares an IRQ with one of my PC Card slots, so when IRDA is running, I can only use one of my two PC card slots. Really it's hard to tell what your problem is with the information you provided below. What kind of laptop i

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Craig Andrews
Just my 2p.. I use Linux on my laptop for many reasons, but primarily because it supports what I do. I know from experience that trying to run Apache, PHP, and MySQL/PostgreSQL on Windows is a frustrating (not to mention slow) experience. My particular laptop (Toshiba Satellite 4030) is complete

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread hlawson
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > That's why I was curious as to what their motivation was. I hope my answer > satisfies you. Well I'm a retired teacher; nowadays I don't do anything the world considers productive, just a little volunteer work, etc. Instead I do stuff that's fun. So, having n

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Francesco Lovergine
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, >

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Josef Dalcolmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > >I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop >instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is > basically a giant > Well, running windows is just too tricky. One has to be very careful > not to break the system (did you know that

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread goldman
Alec said the following... > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. Ooh, ooh, ooh, Mr. C! Over here! 1) Don't have to pay Microsoft to use Linux. 2) Is fun. 3) Why not? I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 computer

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Laptops don't get used much as servers or development workstations, > are they? Mine does. (I hate desks.) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! WinErr: 01E Timing error - Please wait. And wait. And wait. And wait. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Josef Dalcolmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. My motivation for using GNU/Linux on a laptop: 1. GNU/Linux is free (in the sense of freedom) software. Windows is not. With GNU/Linux I can have a system with only

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Marco Fioretti
Alec wrote: > > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the library, for presenti

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Derek Broughton
Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the library, for presenting (powerp

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > confere

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop Uh, precisely the same as my motivation for running it on a desktop. | keeping all their mail and personal archives in one place, etc. Laptops don't | get used much as servers

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> I made my laptop my principle machine years ago. I've never looked back. > Be seeing you, norm I have been using a laptop as a "desktop replacement" for many years, and according to technology media reports such is the wave of the future. As for Linux versus M$ Windows products -- efficient re

Re: X problem

2001-11-30 Thread David Roundy
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. > > I would like to request more assistance in resolving my proble

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > <> > I sure would love to get Linux working again on my Laptop! > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. >

Re: woody on sony vaio Z600-TEK

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:22:34 +0100, Philip Iezzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'm using the loadlin from install.bat to load the bootdisks. windows leaves the built-in eepro100 in a quite wonky state. by default, you can't use the eepro100 after a softboot after windows. there is a tool

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. Cygwin was always too bulky; when I used MSwin, I use JP Software's 4dos or Take Command. BTW there is a project called "Litestep" which replaces MSwin's Explorer with an Afterstep

Re: Why Windows on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread lintux
Rest my case... ;-) -- *=-+-__ |lintux-@t-lintux-d0t-cx: _ Ugh! Nio2f says something: __ : http://www.lintux.cx/ |/ hi ing a laptop is ally arch ad m \ ~~-+-=-+~+-=* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > > instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > Because Windows doesn't have any of the utilities I need. I use vi, C, php, > postgres, apache, make, bash, X, latex, mpg1

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Well, I believe that the newer Windows versions, for example Win2000 are > quite stable. I'd have to agree, but it isn't worth shoe-horning into my Pentium 233 MMX with 96 MB RAM. (maxed out.) The extant version of Windows in January '98 wasn't stable enough to keep me, then... so the machi

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Empty One
--- Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for > using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a > laptop is basically a giant > PDA. I have a few reasons for using linux and not windows on the laptop I own. For one, it

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Reality Check: > > I sure would love to get Linux working again on my Laptop! > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. Well, you might take a "package pools" approa

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
Sure appreciate the help! Remembering that I am in "Single" mode, does that kill off some stuff like "Safe Mode" in M$ Windows? > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonly" ? "bash: X: command not found" > - Which X server you are using (or : trying to use) The default, left over fro

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > files that come with the "standard" kit and apply only the changes you > need b

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Sure appreciate the help! > > Remembering that I am in "Single" mode, does that kill off some > stuff like "Safe Mode" in M$ Windows? Yes. Only rcS gets run, and you are in runlevel "1" instead of 2 or 5 where the exciting things happen. > > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonl

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Tony Godshall
> I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% > Debian, however something -- possibly an artifact of > Progeny -- is tripping things up and I cannot find it. I know there are people working on this issue- progeny.com said so. But why hurry it? The debian dependency system lets you up

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:03:24PM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > <> > Is there a simple inquiry to discover this? > > "X -probeonly" only gets me "bash: X: command not found" (speaking from fallable memory): That's probably because you're in single-user mode. 1st priority is to get you into multi-u

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> > Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > > files that come with the "standard" kit and apply only the changes you

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread hlawson
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Heather wrote: > > > Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > > > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > > > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > > > files that come with the "

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> > > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonly" ? > > "bash: X: command not found" > 1) /usr/X11R6/bin is not on your path. Not surprising in single user mode. > 2) does it run when you give it an explicit path to X ? Yes. So much to learn about Linux! A ton of text whining about NEO

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> But why hurry it? The debian dependency system lets you > upgrade the bits and pieces you want and leave the ones that > work alone. Upgrade the packages you need. > apt-get update > apt-get --simulate install pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 > .. and then if it looks OK ... > apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 pk

Off Topic: Why Lotus Notes Sucks

2001-11-30 Thread aeleblanc
Reasons Why Lotus Notes Sucks. 1) Well, its version 5 and its still buggy as hell.   2) you have to make a selection from a dropdown menu to quote someone when you reply, other wise there is no quoted text 3) ...And when you do that, It puts a big ugly graphical header in the middle of the email,

Is this what HC uses? [Re: Off Topic: Why Lotus Notes Sucks]

2001-11-30 Thread Tony Godshall
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 05:36:08PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reasons Why Lotus Notes Sucks. > > 1) Well, its version 5 and its still buggy as hell. > 2) you have to make a selection from a dropdown menu to quote someone when > you reply, other wise there is no quoted text > 3) ...And wh

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > On Friday 30 November 2001 03:50 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: >> > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a >> > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. >> >> I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you wond

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Jeff
Alec, 2001-Nov-30 04:17 -0500: > On Friday 30 November 2001 03:50 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > > > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > > > I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you w

Re: Is this what HC uses? [Re: Off Topic: Why Lotus Notes Sucks]

2001-11-30 Thread aeleblanc
Who is HC? Oh, and here's #13.  Holding down shift and using the arrow Keys, or home/end etc. doesn't highlight things in the to, from cc and bcc fields, but it does in everything else. Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 30-11-01 06:44 PM                 To:

Re: Flashing display -- Complete Reply

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> But why hurry it? The debian dependency system lets you > upgrade the bits and pieces you want and leave the ones that > work alone. Upgrade the packages you need. > apt-get update > apt-get --simulate install pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 > .. and then if it looks OK ... > apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 pk

Re: Off Topic: Why Lotus Notes Sucks

2001-11-30 Thread Arno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reasons Why Lotus Notes Sucks. > > 1) Well, its version 5 and its still buggy as hell. Good for you, we're still using version 4.6 at my company... [...] > 7) very non-standard (as far as I know it doesn't support POP3 or IMAP > Mail, just Lotus Notes Mail... I'm pro

Re: xfree video-configuration

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 06:37, Max Koszela wrote: > I've got the sis630-motherboard with the agp-graphics > chipset with the same name built in. This card seems to be > supported (at least if XF86Setup is to be trusted). The install > script of the svga-something xserver didn't succeed in > configu

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 21:39, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in t

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Michael Robinson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 09:54:27PM +1300, Andrew McMillan wrote: > You obviously live a pretty sheltered life if you see a laptop as a PDA > - mine has 0.5G RAM, 30G HD, 1600x1200 LCD screen and a PIII 850... Ditto that. After using the screen on the 5000e, I can't sit in front of a CRT for any

Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alec
Hi I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, conferences, in the library, for presenting (powerpoint) material,

Re: xfree video-configuration

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 06:37, Max Koszela wrote: > I've got the sis630-motherboard with the agp-graphics > chipset with the same name built in. This card seems to be > supported (at least if XF86Setup is to be trusted). The install > script of the svga-something xserver didn't succeed in > configur

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you wondering what the major point you missed was, or just idly curious? > The way I see it, a laptop is basically

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 21:39, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in th

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Nov-2001 Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the librar

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: >I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop >instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant Well, running windows is just too tricky. One has to be very careful not to break the system (did you know that t

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alec
On Friday 30 November 2001 03:50 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > I am curious also: why are you asking? Are you wondering what the major > point you missed w

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Nate Duehr
Alec, My laptop gets used as the beta site for a number of web applications I maintain (not on my domain, but others). It's nice to have a full PostgreSQL or MySQL (as needed) database, Apache, PHP and all the tools to fiddle around with on the laptop and then just copy the working code to the "

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: >laptop with MS Office, etc., but I suspected that those laptop users with >Linuces on them are mostly just following their technophilic desires. Of course! I bought my laptop just because I wanted something a bit more exotic hardware where to install Linux on! (T

Re: xfree video-configuration

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
I have a laptop equipped with a SiS630, too. I managed to get X 4.1.0 completely working, includung Xv. Look here: www.webit.com/tw/ -> Linux on Gericom Please mail me privately if you have further questions. Thomas -- Thomas Winischhofer Vienna/Austria Check it out: mailto:[

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Dear all > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is > basically a giant PDA. People usually use them for typing down I use mine for running our LUG which includes e-mail and web page production. Also fo

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Michele Mariottini
Ciao :) At 19.50 30/11/01 +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. Windows and Cygwin have *never* equaled, let alone beaten, my Linux system for stability. It's not tha

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Anuradha Ratnaweera
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. Because Windows doesn't have any of the utilities I need. I use vi, C, php, postgres, apache, make, bash, X, latex, mpg123 (etc. etc. e

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant Personal preference for me. The Windows environment is too frustrating for me and

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Michael Robinson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 09:54:27PM +1300, Andrew McMillan wrote: > You obviously live a pretty sheltered life if you see a laptop as a PDA > - mine has 0.5G RAM, 30G HD, 1600x1200 LCD screen and a PIII 850... Ditto that. After using the screen on the 5000e, I can't sit in front of a CRT for any l

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Richard Watson
On Friday 30 November 2001 10:32, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > > instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > Because Windows doesn't have any of the utilities I need. I use vi,

Re: Modem pcmcia

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew Taylor
Perhaps your laptop is having a resource conflict. On my laptop, my IRDA shares an IRQ with one of my PC Card slots, so when IRDA is running, I can only use one of my two PC card slots. Really it's hard to tell what your problem is with the information you provided below. What kind of laptop is

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Craig Andrews
Just my 2p.. I use Linux on my laptop for many reasons, but primarily because it supports what I do. I know from experience that trying to run Apache, PHP, and MySQL/PostgreSQL on Windows is a frustrating (not to mention slow) experience. My particular laptop (Toshiba Satellite 4030) is completel

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread hlawson
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Alec wrote: > That's why I was curious as to what their motivation was. I hope my answer > satisfies you. Well I'm a retired teacher; nowadays I don't do anything the world considers productive, just a little volunteer work, etc. Instead I do stuff that's fun. So, having ne

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Anuradha Ratnaweera
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:59:24AM +, Richard Watson wrote: > On Friday 30 November 2001 10:32, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > > > instead of Cygwin + Windows. >

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Francesco Lovergine
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, >

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Josef Dalcolmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > >I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop >instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is > basically a giant > Well, running windows is just too tricky. One has to be very careful > not to break the system (did you know that

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread goldman
Alec said the following... > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. Ooh, ooh, ooh, Mr. C! Over here! 1) Don't have to pay Microsoft to use Linux. 2) Is fun. 3) Why not? I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 computers

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Alan Shutko
Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Laptops don't get used much as servers or development workstations, > are they? Mine does. (I hate desks.) -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! WinErr: 01E Timing error - Please wait. And wait. And wait. And wait.

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Josef Dalcolmo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a > laptop instead of Cygwin + Windows. My motivation for using GNU/Linux on a laptop: 1. GNU/Linux is free (in the sense of freedom) software. Windows is not. With GNU/Linux I can have a system with only

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Marco Fioretti
Alec wrote: > > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the library, for presentin

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Derek Broughton
Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferences, in the library, for presenting (powerpo

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a laptop is basically a giant > PDA. People usually use them for typing down stuff during classes, seminars, > conferen

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop Uh, precisely the same as my motivation for running it on a desktop. | keeping all their mail and personal archives in one place, etc. Laptops don't | get used much as servers

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> I made my laptop my principle machine years ago. I've never looked back. > Be seeing you, norm I have been using a laptop as a "desktop replacement" for many years, and according to technology media reports such is the wave of the future. As for Linux versus M$ Windows products -- efficient res

Re: X problem

2001-11-30 Thread David Roundy
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. > > I would like to request more assistance in resolving my problem

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:10:18AM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > <> > I sure would love to get Linux working again on my Laptop! > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. >

Re: woody on sony vaio Z600-TEK

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:22:34 +0100, Philip Iezzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I'm using the loadlin from install.bat to load the bootdisks. windows leaves the built-in eepro100 in a quite wonky state. by default, you can't use the eepro100 after a softboot after windows. there is a tool

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. Cygwin was always too bulky; when I used MSwin, I use JP Software's 4dos or Take Command. BTW there is a project called "Litestep" which replaces MSwin's Explorer with an Afterstep

Re: Why Windows on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread lintux
Rest my case... ;-) -- *=-+-__ |[EMAIL PROTECTED]: _ Ugh! Nio2f says something: __ : http://www.lintux.cx/ |/ hi ing a laptop is ally arch ad m \ ~~-+-=-+~+-=*

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:39:20AM -0500, Alec wrote: > > > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for using Linux on a laptop > > instead of Cygwin + Windows. > > Because Windows doesn't have any of the utilities I need. I use vi, C, php, > postgres, apache, make, bash, X, latex, mpg12

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Well, I believe that the newer Windows versions, for example Win2000 are > quite stable. I'd have to agree, but it isn't worth shoe-horning into my Pentium 233 MMX with 96 MB RAM. (maxed out.) The extant version of Windows in January '98 wasn't stable enough to keep me, then... so the machin

Re: Why Linux on a Laptop?

2001-11-30 Thread Empty One
--- Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering what everyone's motivation is for > using Linux on a laptop > instead of Cygwin + Windows. The way I see it, a > laptop is basically a giant > PDA. I have a few reasons for using linux and not windows on the laptop I own. For one, it

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Reality Check: > > I sure would love to get Linux working again on my Laptop! > > I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% Debian, however > something -- possibly an artifact of Progeny -- is tripping things up and I > cannot find it. Well, you might take a "package pools" approac

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
Sure appreciate the help! Remembering that I am in "Single" mode, does that kill off some stuff like "Safe Mode" in M$ Windows? > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonly" ? "bash: X: command not found" > - Which X server you are using (or : trying to use) The default, left over from

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > files that come with the "standard" kit and apply only the changes you > need ba

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> Sure appreciate the help! > > Remembering that I am in "Single" mode, does that kill off some > stuff like "Safe Mode" in M$ Windows? Yes. Only rcS gets run, and you are in runlevel "1" instead of 2 or 5 where the exciting things happen. > > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonly

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Tony Godshall
> I started with Progeny and am trying to shift to 100% > Debian, however something -- possibly an artifact of > Progeny -- is tripping things up and I cannot find it. I know there are people working on this issue- progeny.com said so. But why hurry it? The debian dependency system lets you upg

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:03:24PM -0500, Doc - KD4E wrote: > <> > Is there a simple inquiry to discover this? > > "X -probeonly" only gets me "bash: X: command not found" (speaking from fallable memory): That's probably because you're in single-user mode. 1st priority is to get you into multi-us

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread Heather
> > Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > > files that come with the "standard" kit and apply only the changes you >

Re: Reality Check. (was Why Linux on a Laptop?)

2001-11-30 Thread hlawson
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Heather wrote: > > > Well, you might take a "package pools" approach - rescue your own control > > > files to a clas of apps or utilities, remove it entirely, use the > > > packaging system to reintroduce the pool, and then look at the control > > > files that come with the "s

Re: Flashing display [was: Why Linux on a Laptop? Reality Check.]

2001-11-30 Thread Doc - KD4E
> > > - What output is produced if you run "X -probeonly" ? > > "bash: X: command not found" > 1) /usr/X11R6/bin is not on your path. Not surprising in single user mode. > 2) does it run when you give it an explicit path to X ? Yes. So much to learn about Linux! A ton of text whining about NEOM

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