I've got a 490CDT, so I can't help with the silver buttons or the little
mouse buttons, don't have 'em.
About the suspend problems, I would suppose they're related to your APM
configuration. You have:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 07:20:39PM -0500, xsdg wrote:
> CONFIG_PM=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI is not set
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:47:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i shut down my card power (cardctl eject 1) when not in use, and shut down
>networking altogether because i don't use it, and have had recent success
>with keeping the modem up, but the jury's still out.
Good idea, turning it o
Christopher Wolf wrote:
> Free
> software is usually not as easy to use because no one has the time to work
> out all the bugs like a dedicated company might (don't even bring up MS;
> they don't write software, they market software), or everyone is taking it
> in their own direction and giving it
I installed Debian 2.2r2 (potato) on a Sony Vaio F340 yesterday but so
far the X window system does not work. Can anyone point me to
information that will help me get it working?
Incidentally, I tried to invoke anXious to probe and
reconfigure but when I type "anXious" at the command line
noth
Hi Jimmy!
Check out the Linux on Laptops page at:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
I didn't see your exact model there, but they have several XG series laptops
listed there - I'm sure some of the information you find will be useful =)
(Don't worry - my F650 wasn't listed the
At 08:21 AM 2/20/2001 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
Christopher Wolf wrote:
> Free
> software is usually not as easy to use because no one has the time to work
> out all the bugs like a dedicated company might (don't even bring up MS;
> they don't write software, they market software), or every
Just some Minor Points
apologies in advance if they have all ready been spoke.
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:58 AM
> To: Adam C Powell IV
> Cc: Debian Laptop
> Subject: Re: Back to Windows??
Clip
>
> Yes. Deb
OK Debian-laptoppers. I know you think our friend Adam is a troll.
But maybe not. Look. He likes Debian:
> You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well.
He has a keen understanding of the organization:
> Debian is one of the better companies.
He has a deep grasp of neti
> > Yes. Debian is one of the better companies. Obviously, or I wouldn't be
> > running Debian releases. But when we wave a purchase contract in Sun's
> > face, they're at our door today, fixing the problem, because if
> > they're not
> > we'll go to someone else. There is no-one at Debian or "
Howdy -
I've recently started a computer science degree and I've been checking
out the possibilities of putting Linux on my laptop, as it would make
my life that much easier. I'd like to use Debian as I like the idea
of a free system, but there's a few things I want to check first.
My main conce
If you can boot off of your CD, it will be pretty easy. If not, you'll
have to have the 6 floppy set, then load the modules for your pcmcia
card, as well as the cdrom drive (if it needs one). Other than that,
it should be ok.
I do network installs myself... Any reasonable quality card shou
> > I'm also planning on going wireless with 2 access points bridging
> > between 2 rooms on oposite sides of the house, and 2 laptops roaming
> > the house.
>
> you really shouldn't need two access points in the same house. just make
> sure that the one access point you do buy supposts external
> Be wanred though, form my experience isdn is a big pain in the ass to
> setup and maintain, be wanred for stainge things like connection getting
> asseblished and dropped again with no immediately apperent reasons.
> Then again, once it works, it does fine.
I have to agree; I had an ISDN connec
well, i need help. i'd like to install a debian system on my laptop.
that's an old Compaq Contura 410c
it has 8mb ram, 330mb hd. it's a 486 cpu. take a look at if you want to get
more infos.
i have an Iomega Zip unit..
someone else installed a debian system from a zip disk? someone can help me
i
Hi,
I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
I attached some data below.
I appreciate any suggestion,
Felix
The data:
> lsm
> Bud Rogers wrote:
>
> > Only you can decide which is the right choice for you.
>
> Very well-put. But one can make life easier in a couple of ways:
>
>* Get a computer with Linux pre-installed. Yes, this is difficult for
> laptops, and in spite of the Microsoft Tax, economies of sca
"Felix E. Klee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
> work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
> another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
> I attached some data below
G'Day !
Check dmesg and your route table for clues ... also are you pinging by name or
number ? if name, try number. if that works check you dns/hosts configurations
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important
than that !!!
> For you printer have a look at http://www.linuxprointing.org (if I'm
> correct), it has a complate listing of what's supported what's
> half-supported and what's not.
typo: linuxprinting.org
Since you merely complained that your printer "wasn't supported" we can't
tell what you expected of it
Can't help you on much.
Debian 2.2 probably runs fine, don't install too much crap on it cause 8mb
of ram isn't that much (note: swap should be at least twice your
ram-size).
ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/ (if I'm
correct) holds install-images on floppy-images
mirrors are a
> At 09:04 PM 2/18/2001 +0100, A. Demarteau (linux rules!) wrote:
> >On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> > > This afternoon I bought a box with Suse Linux 7 and a set of books.
> > > It took me 2 hours, but now X Windows is running properly. But my
> > printer is
> > > not supported,
>Dear People,
> I am very sorry for my being so challenged, - but I
> like the philosophy of Debian, and therefore I want to
> learn Debian rather than other distributions, or OS's.
Welcome to debian, Hearthstone :)
> What values do I put in xf86config for ThinkPad380ED
> (I have Debian2.
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Christopher Wolf wrote:
>
> You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well. But I'm
> talking generally about the lifetime of a free product, not necessarily
>
> [snipped linux being bloated]
>
> of the product itself are getting harder to install and config
> Hello.
> I'm a newbie and took a giant leap into the unknown by "upgrading" my
> original Debian install to the Progeny distro (http://www.progeny.com). I
> will be starting my first compilation exercise to get the USB working, as
> well as the jog-dial. Has anyone on this list used Progeny, and
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:55:03PM +0100, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
> work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
> another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
> I attach
This is, of course, way off-topic, and I rather like Shad's reply, but a couple
of
interesting points are made here which I think merit response...
Christopher Wolf wrote:
> At 08:21 AM 2/20/2001 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> >We spend MONTHS in testing cyclles trying every possible configu
> Bud,
>
> In your answer you are drifting away from what it is really about. Jan's
> Microsoft has a dominant position,
An illegally dominant position, according to the judge, but is being allowed
to get away with it for an unknown further block of time, while the appeal
process tilts favors in
I installed a debian system on a PowerMac G4 some time ago. I had to do
this because there were no boot CDs available at that time and of course
the PowerMac does not have a floppy drive. You can check the
debian-powerpc archives for details of how to do it. Mail from Ethan
Benson was the mo
> And good luck with a scanner, cd-rw, off brand sound card, tape drive and
> the like. [many megapulses of whining deleted]
Considering that they have the same problem should they choose NT, the
champion of Redmond's dreams, I think your negative rant is a waste of bits.
(this one isn't, I actu
> > > (1) You control the interface. You have a choice of window managers,
> > > GNOME, KDE. *You* get to decide how you want to interact with the
> > > computer, not Bill Gates.
>
> > Hans:
> > In the first place these window managers are Windows look-alikes, especially
> > KDE that was intenti
> Howdy -
>
> I've recently started a computer science degree and I've been checking
> out the possibilities of putting Linux on my laptop, as it would make
> my life that much easier. I'd like to use Debian as I like the idea
> of a free system, but there's a few things I want to check first.
>
G'Day !
I'm forwarding this to the debian-laptop list so the "real" experts can chime in
as neccessary ... ;-)
I had the same problem with my D-Link DFE-650 NIC card (slightly different
symptoms, but still a Tx message in dmesg). I stopped working on the problem,
so I don't have a final soluti
Thanks, Heather, for the comments and advice. I have been looking up some of
the links. Just need to roll up my sleeves and get onto it. Was kind of
hoping that someone would be running Debian on a similar model so we could
exchange notes (or rather, someone I could receive notes from ;-) ). My
1-y
Hello Heather,
Firstly, the subject is getting quite off topic by now. For my part I want to
end the discussion on this list with you with this reply, but any message to
my email-adress will be welcome of course.
On Tuesday 20 February 2001 23:53, you wrote:
> > Bud,
> >
> > In your answer you
> Hello Craig,
>
> Sorry about not greeting you in the previous message, but that whas not my
> intention.
[much snipaage]
> > > The money issue is relative, Japanese companies are now kicking Linux out
> >
> > yes the money issue is relative: for myself who was a grad student at the
> > start
> But I don't care if it's free, easy, purple or written on the back of a
> matchbook.
> I just want it to work. And so far, none of the OSs meet that requirement.
> That's all I want. I want it to work the way it's supposed to.
Get one of the CD based distros from the listing at LWN (www.lwn.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:57:27PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:47:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (I think my card's fine under ethernet).
yeah, mine too
> Yes, once my card settles in after a couple of freezes (two already this
> session), it then runs for hours
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:37:24PM -0500, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
> If you're using X, try switching to text mode first (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and
> then suspend. If the system resumes into text mode ok, then try
> switching back to X.
This problem occurs from the console, while X isn't running.
> --
> Lee Br
Hi Steven,
Please send the output of "ls -la /dev/mouse"
If it is /dev/gpmdata, then gpm must be installed and running,
and repeating as type "ps2".
If it is blank, either do the above, or, if you don't want
or care about having the mouse on the console, just symlink
/dev/psaux to /dev/mouse li
At 09:55 PM 2/20/2001 +, Alexander Clouter wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Christopher Wolf wrote:
>
> You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well. But I'm
> talking generally about the lifetime of a free product, not necessarily
>
> [snipped linux being bloated]
>
> of the
I've got a 490CDT, so I can't help with the silver buttons or the little
mouse buttons, don't have 'em.
About the suspend problems, I would suppose they're related to your APM
configuration. You have:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 07:20:39PM -0500, xsdg wrote:
> CONFIG_PM=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI is not set
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:47:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i shut down my card power (cardctl eject 1) when not in use, and shut down
>networking altogether because i don't use it, and have had recent success
>with keeping the modem up, but the jury's still out.
Good idea, turning it
Christopher Wolf wrote:
> Free
> software is usually not as easy to use because no one has the time to work
> out all the bugs like a dedicated company might (don't even bring up MS;
> they don't write software, they market software), or everyone is taking it
> in their own direction and giving i
I installed Debian 2.2r2 (potato) on a Sony Vaio F340 yesterday but so
far the X window system does not work. Can anyone point me to
information that will help me get it working?
Incidentally, I tried to invoke anXious to probe and
reconfigure but when I type "anXious" at the command line
not
Hi Jimmy!
Check out the Linux on Laptops page at:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
I didn't see your exact model there, but they have several XG series laptops
listed there - I'm sure some of the information you find will be useful =)
(Don't worry - my F650 wasn't listed th
At 08:21 AM 2/20/2001 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>Christopher Wolf wrote:
>
> > Free
> > software is usually not as easy to use because no one has the time to work
> > out all the bugs like a dedicated company might (don't even bring up MS;
> > they don't write software, they market software),
Just some Minor Points
apologies in advance if they have all ready been spoke.
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:58 AM
> To: Adam C Powell IV
> Cc: Debian Laptop
> Subject: Re: Back to Windows??
Clip
>
> Yes. D
OK Debian-laptoppers. I know you think our friend Adam is a troll.
But maybe not. Look. He likes Debian:
> You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well.
He has a keen understanding of the organization:
> Debian is one of the better companies.
He has a deep grasp of net
> > Yes. Debian is one of the better companies. Obviously, or I wouldn't be
> > running Debian releases. But when we wave a purchase contract in Sun's
> > face, they're at our door today, fixing the problem, because if
> > they're not
> > we'll go to someone else. There is no-one at Debian or
Howdy -
I've recently started a computer science degree and I've been checking
out the possibilities of putting Linux on my laptop, as it would make
my life that much easier. I'd like to use Debian as I like the idea
of a free system, but there's a few things I want to check first.
My main conc
If you can boot off of your CD, it will be pretty easy. If not, you'll
have to have the 6 floppy set, then load the modules for your pcmcia
card, as well as the cdrom drive (if it needs one). Other than that,
it should be ok.
I do network installs myself... Any reasonable quality card sho
> > I'm also planning on going wireless with 2 access points bridging
> > between 2 rooms on oposite sides of the house, and 2 laptops roaming
> > the house.
>
> you really shouldn't need two access points in the same house. just make
> sure that the one access point you do buy supposts external
> Be wanred though, form my experience isdn is a big pain in the ass to
> setup and maintain, be wanred for stainge things like connection getting
> asseblished and dropped again with no immediately apperent reasons.
> Then again, once it works, it does fine.
I have to agree; I had an ISDN conne
well, i need help. i'd like to install a debian system on my laptop.
that's an old Compaq Contura 410c
it has 8mb ram, 330mb hd. it's a 486 cpu. take a look at if you want to get
more infos.
i have an Iomega Zip unit..
someone else installed a debian system from a zip disk? someone can help me
Hi,
I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
I attached some data below.
I appreciate any suggestion,
Felix
The data:
> ls
> Bud Rogers wrote:
>
> > Only you can decide which is the right choice for you.
>
> Very well-put. But one can make life easier in a couple of ways:
>
>* Get a computer with Linux pre-installed. Yes, this is difficult for
> laptops, and in spite of the Microsoft Tax, economies of sc
"Felix E. Klee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
> work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
> another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
> I attached some data belo
G'Day !
Check dmesg and your route table for clues ... also are you pinging by name or
number ? if name, try number. if that works check you dns/hosts configurations
cheers,
Jim Parker
Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death It is far more important
than that !!!
Can't help you on much.
Debian 2.2 probably runs fine, don't install too much crap on it cause 8mb
of ram isn't that much (note: swap should be at least twice your
ram-size).
ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/ (if I'm
correct) holds install-images on floppy-images
mirrors are
> For you printer have a look at http://www.linuxprointing.org (if I'm
> correct), it has a complate listing of what's supported what's
> half-supported and what's not.
typo: linuxprinting.org
Since you merely complained that your printer "wasn't supported" we can't
tell what you expected of it
> At 09:04 PM 2/18/2001 +0100, A. Demarteau (linux rules!) wrote:
> >On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> > > This afternoon I bought a box with Suse Linux 7 and a set of books.
> > > It took me 2 hours, but now X Windows is running properly. But my
> > printer is
> > > not supported,
>Dear People,
> I am very sorry for my being so challenged, - but I
> like the philosophy of Debian, and therefore I want to
> learn Debian rather than other distributions, or OS's.
Welcome to debian, Hearthstone :)
> What values do I put in xf86config for ThinkPad380ED
> (I have Debian2
> Hello.
> I'm a newbie and took a giant leap into the unknown by "upgrading" my
> original Debian install to the Progeny distro (http://www.progeny.com). I
> will be starting my first compilation exercise to get the USB working, as
> well as the jog-dial. Has anyone on this list used Progeny, and
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:55:03PM +0100, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have trouble getting the Netgear FA510 Cardbus Fast Ethernet Card to
> work. While "cardctl ident" reports the correct card I cannot ping
> another computer connected via a cross over cable (but it works in W2k).
> I attac
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Christopher Wolf wrote:
>
> You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well. But I'm
> talking generally about the lifetime of a free product, not necessarily
>
> [snipped linux being bloated]
>
> of the product itself are getting harder to install and confi
This is, of course, way off-topic, and I rather like Shad's reply, but a couple of
interesting points are made here which I think merit response...
Christopher Wolf wrote:
> At 08:21 AM 2/20/2001 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> >We spend MONTHS in testing cyclles trying every possible configu
> Bud,
>
> In your answer you are drifting away from what it is really about. Jan's
> Microsoft has a dominant position,
An illegally dominant position, according to the judge, but is being allowed
to get away with it for an unknown further block of time, while the appeal
process tilts favors in
I installed a debian system on a PowerMac G4 some time ago. I had to do
this because there were no boot CDs available at that time and of course
the PowerMac does not have a floppy drive. You can check the
debian-powerpc archives for details of how to do it. Mail from Ethan
Benson was the m
> And good luck with a scanner, cd-rw, off brand sound card, tape drive and
> the like. [many megapulses of whining deleted]
Considering that they have the same problem should they choose NT, the
champion of Redmond's dreams, I think your negative rant is a waste of bits.
(this one isn't, I act
> > > (1) You control the interface. You have a choice of window managers,
> > > GNOME, KDE. *You* get to decide how you want to interact with the
> > > computer, not Bill Gates.
>
> > Hans:
> > In the first place these window managers are Windows look-alikes, especially
> > KDE that was intent
G'Day !
I'm forwarding this to the debian-laptop list so the "real" experts can chime in
as neccessary ... ;-)
I had the same problem with my D-Link DFE-650 NIC card (slightly different
symptoms, but still a Tx message in dmesg). I stopped working on the problem,
so I don't have a final solut
> Howdy -
>
> I've recently started a computer science degree and I've been checking
> out the possibilities of putting Linux on my laptop, as it would make
> my life that much easier. I'd like to use Debian as I like the idea
> of a free system, but there's a few things I want to check first.
>
Thanks, Heather, for the comments and advice. I have been looking up some of
the links. Just need to roll up my sleeves and get onto it. Was kind of
hoping that someone would be running Debian on a similar model so we could
exchange notes (or rather, someone I could receive notes from ;-) ). My
1-y
Hello Heather,
Firstly, the subject is getting quite off topic by now. For my part I want to
end the discussion on this list with you with this reply, but any message to
my email-adress will be welcome of course.
On Tuesday 20 February 2001 23:53, you wrote:
> > Bud,
> >
> > In your answer yo
> Hello Craig,
>
> Sorry about not greeting you in the previous message, but that whas not my
> intention.
[much snipaage]
> > > The money issue is relative, Japanese companies are now kicking Linux out
> >
> > yes the money issue is relative: for myself who was a grad student at the
> > star
> But I don't care if it's free, easy, purple or written on the back of a
> matchbook.
> I just want it to work. And so far, none of the OSs meet that requirement.
> That's all I want. I want it to work the way it's supposed to.
Get one of the CD based distros from the listing at LWN (www.lwn
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:57:27PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:47:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (I think my card's fine under ethernet).
yeah, mine too
> Yes, once my card settles in after a couple of freezes (two already this
> session), it then runs for hour
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:37:24PM -0500, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
> If you're using X, try switching to text mode first (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and
> then suspend. If the system resumes into text mode ok, then try
> switching back to X.
This problem occurs from the console, while X isn't running.
> --
> Lee B
Hi Steven,
Please send the output of "ls -la /dev/mouse"
If it is /dev/gpmdata, then gpm must be installed and running,
and repeating as type "ps2".
If it is blank, either do the above, or, if you don't want
or care about having the mouse on the console, just symlink
/dev/psaux to /dev/mouse l
At 09:55 PM 2/20/2001 +, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Christopher Wolf wrote:
> >
> > You're talking about single releases, which Debian does very well. But I'm
> > talking generally about the lifetime of a free product, not necessarily
> >
> > [snipped linux being bloated]
I don't think this thread will end without it being killed off, it's
based too much on peoples definition of the social issues involved
rather than the localised issue of the software IMHO.
>
> Sorry, but I've misstated. I'm not speaking about the size of the compiled
> code. I mean the code
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