Okay, so i got some kick-in-the-ass and am trying to organize it.[1]
So the first thing is - are there any people volunteering for the
debian-"booth" at ccc camp? I think 5-10[2] people should be sufficient
to run it. Please email me off-list if you are interested.
Secondly, we would need some P
Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:15:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Several talks were already delivered in English. Even if the talk
> > was held in German, most speakers could be questioned afterwards
> > in English.
>
> As this is -events-eu, I take it you talk about the
Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
>
> > Several talks were already delivered in English. Even if the talk
> > was held in German, most speakers could be questioned afterwards
> > in English.
> Well, I hope I made it clear that it was not my personal opinion
> (I ju
Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> Of course I ask visitors at our booth in german "may I help you", since
> most visitors are german.
And then they answer "Ugh, could you repeat that in English", then you
do and everything's happy. No problem as long as people are not too
shy to say a word in a "so call
Anders Dybdal wrote:
> >It started as German exhibition and conference but became a European
> >event. Hence, some talks are already held in English, some exhibitors
> >come from oversees and speak English (some speak German as well, though).
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> > Joey
> >
> Good answer. Its
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> ehhehehe but note that I am not complaining about them speaking german. it
> is in their right 10%. If it is an exhibitions with a "closed"
> target than they should just advertise it in that way.
Enough booth staff speaks english so the exhibition is fully
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Michael Banck wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:30:30PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> > > Now that was stupid.
> >
> > At least I quoted allright :P
> >
> > Seriously, I believe ideally, the slides should be prepared in english
> > and the
Christoph Siess wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:17:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> > > Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> > > supposed to be in german?!?
> >
> > Yeah, DebConf is in Osl
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 12:14:50PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * "Andrew M.A. Cater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 19:42]:
> > It might not be a bad idea to use the ready made shirts from
> > www.openstuff.be - I wore a formal white shirt with a Debian
> > swirl to man the front of the booth t
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:15:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Andreas Tille wrote:
> > beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
> > to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
> > who do not understand German.
>
> If the event was
On Friday 18 July 2003 19:49, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I would prefer simultaneous translation which would be about same regarding
> costs but the more elegant solution, IMHO.
Actually, with the help of WLAN previously translated slides could be
remote-controlled by the speaker on the attendees' la
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Russell Coker wrote:
> It works for the Colorado Software Summit to have each talk repeated three
> times in English, why wouldn't it work to have a LinuxTag talk three times,
> once in English, once in French, and once in German if the speaker is fluent
> in all the languages
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 03:04, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > There is another conference I've been to where every talk is repeated
> > three times to give everyone an opportunity to see all talks that
> > interest them.
>
> I'm not sure if this works and I'm also not sure if it would work if
It works for t
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Russell Coker wrote:
> There is another conference I've been to where every talk is repeated three
> times to give everyone an opportunity to see all talks that interest them.
I'm not sure if this works and I'm also not sure if it would work if
there would be some "in time tra
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Russell Coker wrote:
> The one I went to was quite good. Most of the talks were in German but there
> were enough interesting things in English to keep me occupied.
So perhaps those people who complained might be proven wrong. I just wanted
to rise this problem and the threa
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Michael Banck wrote:
> Yeah, and then the germans bitch about LSM being in french :P
This was exactly why I feeling und thus I was among the people who
criticized the LSM people I did not want to stop "at or own event".
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Christoph Siess wrote:
> That's not the point. DebConf is a internation event, LinuxTag not
While I have seen this the same like you before (and thus I not realized
the problem before I talked to those people) I think the news about beeing
the greatest Linux Event on earth
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Several talks were already delivered in English. Even if the talk
> was held in German, most speakers could be questioned afterwards
> in English.
Well, I hope I made it clear that it was not my personal opinion
(I just nor realized) but I was foreward
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis, on 2003-07-18, 10:40, you wrote:
> You're right, but it's a shame that german people of LinuxTag didn't catch
> in time the echo that such an event was having (has) in Europe. Don't be
> disappointed: many talks at Libre Software Meeting in Bordeaux (while
> debconf1
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:41, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
Good point. The official EU languages are English, French, and German.
Therefore they should t
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:54, Andreas Tille wrote:
> beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
> to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
> who do not understand German.
The one I went to was quite good. Most of the talks were in German
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:17:40PM +0200, Christoph Siess wrote:
> That's not the point. DebConf is a internation event, LinuxTag not
You're right, but it's a shame that german people of LinuxTag didn't catch
in time the echo that such an event was having (has) in Europe. Don't be
disappointed
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
> That's a very fortunate development. LinuxTag won't be able without
> business. As much as LinuxTag won't be able without community. Both
> are essential and vital to LinuxTag. Hence, I can only hope that
> business recognition will grow even more -
* Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030718 14:47]:
> I already proposed: 'English slides, talk either in german or english,
> by request of the audience'
Sounds good for me, as long as no one complains after that about the
bad english, the speaker used.
Yours sincerely
Alexander
* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 14:13]:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> Why not? You think there are more people in europe that speak english
>> than those who speak german?
>
> Yes.
Significant more? Especially in the group of people for which the
Lin
* Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030718 13:15]:
> If the event was useless for people from the community of Debian,
> then the Debian booth and Debian people did a very poor job. I
> hope that's only a misinterpretation.
I'm pretty sure you do, since I know quite a few visitors, who asked u
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Karsten Merker wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:41:00PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
>
> > What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> > as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
> > something that doesn't real
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:15:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Several talks were already delivered in English. Even if the talk
> was held in German, most speakers could be questioned afterwards
> in English.
As this is -events-eu, I take it you talk about the debian-day? I know
you organize
Martin Schulze, on 2003-07-17, 14:31, you wrote:
> Speaking of professionalism, a white or grey shirt with the swirl
> embroided would be proper. Real shirts also have a breast pocket.
Then I would opt for white ones because grey is kind of uncomfortable in
terms of people being able to see you s
* Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 12:14]:
> > www.openstuff.be - I wore a formal white shirt with a Debian
>
> I guess you mean openstuff.de, I was not able to find openstuff.be. But
> on openstuff.de I wasn't even able to find a single shirt, can you
> please be a little bit more
Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
Well, german is european the same way that linux is unix.
--
Peter Makholm | I laugh in th
* Rico -mc- Gloeckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030717 20:24]:
> > Please go ahead. We had some presence there two years ago already.
> Well iam neither Debian Developer,
Nor am I.
> nor experienced in organizing Events.
That excuse doesn't count. I tried it a year ago, too, but they catched
me ;)
* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 13:41]:
> What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
> something that doesn't really work here.
Why not? You think there are more people in
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
> to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
> who do not understand German.
If LinuxTag wants to be viewed as an international event I guess it
bad
Christoph Siess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That's not the point. DebConf is a internation event, LinuxTag
> not
Exactly. The European Linux comunity should find itself an
international event as its "big event".
--
David N. Welton
Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/
Personal: htt
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:41:00PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> > as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
> > something that doesn't really
Anders Dybdal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> supposed to be in german?!?
It started as German exhibition and conference but became a European
event. Hence, some talks are already held in English, some exhibitors
come from oversees and s
Michael Banck wrote:
> > Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> > supposed to be in german?!?
>
> Yeah, DebConf is in Oslo, so all the talks should be in norwegian, if
> you ask me.
Heh...
Regards,
Joey
--
Given enough thrust pigs will fly, but it's
Andreas Tille wrote:
> beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
> to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
> who do not understand German.
Several talks were already delivered in English. Even if the talk
was held in German, most sp
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> supposed to be in german?!?
Well, it gets advertized as the biggest Linux conference in europe, so i
guess there will also be non german attending. No
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-18 13:41]:
> > What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> > as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
> > something that doesn't really work h
* Alexander Wirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030717 13:23]:
> in octobre is the Linux World Expo in Frankfurt
> (http://www.linuxworldexpo.de). Will there be debianbooth or
> something like that?
http://www.debian.org/events/2003/1027-lwe
Yours sincerely
Alexander
Martin Schulze wrote:
It started as German exhibition and conference but became a European
event. Hence, some talks are already held in English, some exhibitors
come from oversees and speak English (some speak German as well, though).
Regards,
Joey
Good answer. Its still a German Linux Day
* Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030718 12:48]:
> Hope we meet each other at
>http://www.linuxday.lu/
> If not you might send me some stuff I could cary with me to Luxembourg.
If can't get there (ask me again in a couple of weeks), contact me, so
I can send you some/all of the Deb
* "Andrew M.A. Cater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 19:42]:
> It might not be a bad idea to use the ready made shirts from
> www.openstuff.be - I wore a formal white shirt with a Debian
> swirl to man the front of the booth to meet the suits^H^H^H^H
> customers at the Linux Expo in Birmingham.
* Rico -mc- Gloeckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-17 20:24]:
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i
You are using mutt, so I guess you have on purpose not set a
Mail-Followup-To header to get Cc:'s from listmails. If this is an
accident, consider using the "subscribe" entry in your ~/.muttrc :)
> On the ot
Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
>
> > I'd use white shirts since lighter material is more friendly while
> > dark material is dark and represents sadness. Also, logos on light
> > shirts are easier distinguishable than logos on dark shirts, except
> > you use lar
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:41:00PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> What really puzzles me is that on linuxtag.de they qualify the exhibition
> as "EUROPEAN" and they have most of the talks in german. There is
> something that doesn't really work here. What is my understanding a
> European ex
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:30:30PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> > Now that was stupid.
>
> At least I quoted allright :P
>
> Seriously, I believe ideally, the slides should be prepared in english
> and the talk either in german or english, depending on
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:30:30PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> Now that was stupid.
At least I quoted allright :P
Seriously, I believe ideally, the slides should be prepared in english
and the talk either in german or english, depending on the audience (ask
them first). If you really want to ta
Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
supposed to be in german?!?
Yeah, DebConf is in Oslo, so all the talks should be in norwegian, if
you ask me.
Michael
Now that was stup
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:17:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> > Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> > supposed to be in german?!?
>
> Yeah, DebConf is in Oslo, so all the talks should be in no
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> supposed to be in german?!?
I fully agree. Since 90% of the people at LinuxTag speak german it makes
sense to give the talks in german. This is what t
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:12:32PM +0200, Anders Dybdal wrote:
> Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
> supposed to be in german?!?
Yeah, DebConf is in Oslo, so all the talks should be in norwegian, if
you ask me.
Michael
Hi,
Is it me or is LinuxTag a GERMAN LinuxDay, in Germany?? Hence, isnt it
supposed to be in german?!?
/Anders
Andreas Tille wrote:
Hi,
beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
who do not und
Hi,
beeing at Debconf in Oslo I just want to foreward some kind of critics
to LinuxTag: Several people regard this event as really useless for people
who do not understand German.
Any remarks?
Andreas.
On 15 Jul 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Noèl Köthe wrote:
> one package of flyer (650 pieces) and some sticker took Fabbione for the
> Debconf/-camp to distribute it there to DD for coming events.
> Alexander Schmehl took the posters for the Linux World Expo 2003 in
> Frankfurt, Germany.
>
> We have left ove
On 17 Jul 2003, David N. Welton wrote:
> Good point, but white shirts get dirty easily. How about a light
> gray?
Do we make compromisses?? I think no and black is OK. ;)
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Michael Banck wrote:
> If the shirts have a breast pocket, the badges with clips could be
> easily attached (like the ones from LinuxTag)
>
> At least I don't like badges with needles a lot.
Same for me
Andreas.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Martin Schulze wrote:
> I'd use white shirts since lighter material is more friendly while
> dark material is dark and represents sadness. Also, logos on light
> shirts are easier distinguishable than logos on dark shirts, except
> you use large plain spaces with light colors
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Michael Meskes wrote:
> Because visitors should be able to identify booth people even if they
> are a few meters away. Also a badge is only seeable if the booth people
> are showing you their front site. What if you see them from behind?
They would immediately went to the prof
* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030717 10:28]:
> I agree; black polo shirts with a Debian swirl would be nice, and
> Debian has the funds to have those made if anyone wants to organize
> this.
www.openstuff.net allready sell black polo shirts with swirl. They even
had a booth at linuxtag
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