Re: Changes in dpkg Pre-Depends

2010-02-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e there would be *much* use of "dpkg-static", but having it around for a release would enable to see if/how many (paranoid) people actually install it. Would that make sense in your opinion? Would it be worth? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ.

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
found the binary while skimming through /usr/bin/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempr

Re: Bug#555743: dpkg-gencontrol: add support for Description:-s in the Source package stanza

2010-03-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ature to reduce information duplication and be kind with various parts of our toolchain. > I think it's ok. But some more feedback would be welcome, CCing -devel > for this. Thanks for the feedback and for the initiative. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostD

Re: Bug#555743: dpkg-gencontrol: add support for Description:-s in the Source package stanza

2010-03-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ols such as DDPO, the PTS, etc. More generally, it does not solve the problem of where to tag that information as such: you would just solve the problem of "description factorization" across multiple binary packages. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ Post

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ha:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ Almost all packages (I've installed) ship md5sums, while the situation was almost reverted a few releases ago. I'm curious about what contributed to this positive change (dh7 and/or CDBS invoking dh_md5sums by default?), any idea? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d5sums in packages? Thanks, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
f one day we decide to change the checksum format we don't need to change the policy. (Don't know how simple that would be, though.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsi

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
stall those manpages automatically (relieving you from the burden of maintaining them) and store there some references to some GUI help system. Maybe it's really naive as an idea, but it would be nice if you could comment on that. Cheers. [1] Message-Id: <20100228093138.ga1...@usha.takhisis.i

Bug#572571: packages SHOULD ship checksums (a-la dh_md5sums, but better)

2010-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
of checksum used carved in stone. Thanks for considering, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoi

Re: Team uploads.

2010-03-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t to understand better what exactly you're proposing ... How about adding to the wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/TeamUpload a clear summary of the actual proposal? Thanks for having revamped this, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsi

source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
file, I personally don't see it as a showstopper. The appreciation that translators expressed wrt factorizing out text from binary package description still applies to this proposal. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e ... even better :-) So, do we have a roadmap of what should be changed so that we can keep track of this? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'

Re: source package descriptions: subtsvars are not enough

2010-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
lking about changing source package metadata which do not belong to Packages and are not necessarily downloaded by users. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro u

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
l of having such default explicit seems a worthwhile one to me, I'm also happy that lintian reminds me about that. Cheers. [1] hey, I want to join the "you're missing the point" club :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:29:21AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > So, please bear with us, people are working on the issue, and we will > keep you informed about it. Thanks a lot for the steady info flow and for this "emergency" work. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
separate package. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| .

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-04-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s (I'm sure that Peter welcome patches :-)). > As you see there are quite some questions that still need to be cleared up > and again I think the DEP process would allow us to answer them > progressively and end up with a clear agreed-upon plan. Ditto. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-04-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ieving the goal that you and Wouter agreed upon would provide the step "/the/file" -->> checksum of the owning .deb. If this is the case, the circle is closed. > I'm really confused at what you were trying to suggest. Any better? (even though it is not yet clear

Re: Binary package names for mozilla plugins [Was: Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team]

2010-04-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e among these two the latter is preferable. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zai

Re: Binary package names for mozilla plugins [Was: Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team]

2010-04-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
content everyone. I'm sure you meant "browser-plugin-*" here ... -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pa

Re: Binary package names for mozilla plugins [Was: Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team]

2010-04-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
es). I presume the general feeling about whether it should be at the beginning or at the end of packages is "we don't particularly care", as long as it is consistent. I personally don't think a poll is needed, but if you feel it is please set up one somewhere and post jus

Bug#579735: O: gtkmathview

2010-04-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'm hereby orphaning the gtkmathview package. It consists of a C++ library used to render MathML documents to various backends, including GTK. Most notably, it is used to support rendering of mathematical formulae in third party applications, such as abiword. The li

Bug#579786: RFA: w3-recs -- Recommendations of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)

2010-04-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'm looking for a new maintainer for the w3-recs package. The package is quite low maintenance as package generation is automated from the machine-parseable index of W3C rcommendations [1]. Still, it needs following the W3C feed to spot new recommendations and updat

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
r Squeeze+1 we'll want to be elsewhere than at CONCURRENCY=makefile. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
;s why I've explicitly asked for "blockers" (and yes, I could have been explicit about that distinction in my mail). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 06:15:24PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:26:18 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >The init.d world has changed quite a bit in recent years and might > >change even more in the next, it is possible that for Squeeze+1 we'll > >wa

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
users, are allowed at all. Ideally, you shouldn't care about boot performance improvements, as long as they do not introduce new (critical) bugs for your usage scenario. Whether this is possible or not in the specific case at hand is what we're all trying to understand in this thread. Cheers.

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rstand how far are we from correct and complete dependency declarations. Oh well, I guess it's just life. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c&#

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n case they see extra problems that I don't in doing that change in the interim. ] Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
than a machine that simply doesn't boot half of the machine services? Many thanks for your work on this, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 01:24:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > CONCURRENCY=makefile > Where is this documented? According to <4be43663.6000...@free.fr> and #576788, it is not. But I'm sure Petter welcome patches on this. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Comput

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
for the pointer. I've just submitted a patch for #576788 that adds a pointer to that file from /etc/init.d/README. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grand

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s. Nevertheless, I'm setting Reply-To/M-F-T to the bug log as apparently this sub-thread should be better continued there. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Die

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
their head :-) Thanks in advance for clarifying! Cheers. [1] yep, I know, there are 3rd party repositories for chromium, but it seems to me that the current packaging is better than them anyhow, as at least it is / will be patched to use Debian libraries instead of embedded copies

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
er has a reactive team behind it). /me just trying to avoid post-release comments like «Debian doesn't even have chromium», unless there's a valid technical reason we can offer to users. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z..

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
"login" for /etc/login.defs) summarizing the point in favor and against the change (if any resisted this presentation)? That way it would be easier to track the status of this proposed change. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...

Re: Open then gates (was: UPG and the default umask)

2010-05-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
intain; if you really think the choice is wrong, you should try to convince him that it is the case. To that end, mails like the above surely don't help. Thank you for your understanding, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsi

Re: Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
erally looking for co-maintainers. So don't take this personal (/ don't overgeneralize) and remember that you can follow what happens with upstart in Debian by subscribing to the PTS for it. More generally, I guess that the current maintainers would welcome some additional helping h

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ke me sad), (3) continue your previous pattern. Among these choices, I gently ask you not to pursue the latter. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ut maintainers with less-than-stellar reaction time, and NMUs are one of the best tools we have to counter that. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande u

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
bian-qa/2010/05/msg00045.html>. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno za

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the > BTS which are completely unaddressed. Right, but also note that there's an open RFH on grub2 #248397 (retitled/refreshed recently, despite the low bug number). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org}

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ailable manpower. If not, we probably ought to be more "communicative" on the fact we really need help on grub2 (e.g. Colin can blog about that *g*). Many thanks for your feedback! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,p

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
both yours and mine interpretation make sense. Anyhow, now Colin is on the matter, let's leave him some time to breathe, and I'm confident the patches you mention will get through. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.j

Re: Bindv6only once again

2010-06-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rride decisions). Note that you'll need to be a Developer for the latter, but not for the former. In the meantime, please refrain to claim that the Debian community is falling shorts of its commitments due to this. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ P

Re: How to warn about need to port changes to new configuration file?

2010-06-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
content of that page? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ..

Re: How to warn about need to port changes to new configuration file?

2010-06-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
zed them a bit more in the page, and added a "warning" header. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ng to "you're not a DD" kind of arguments might also be perceived as weakness in our responses: yet another argument to avoid using them. Cheers. PS FWIW: https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=thomas%40goirand.fr -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he interest the issue had on list, I very much doubt the BoF will go deserted. Thanks for the idea, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tivity for Mozilla-related package: that helps other users way more than removing their favorite browser from the main archive. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsi

teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
lity in FOSS starts from bug reports, if we are not good enough in teaching our users how to report bugs, our quality will suffer. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nt loss that of bug reports that we don't receive due to this. From this discussion it's clear that not all of us think it's a loss unless we are able to fix currently reported bugs (see e.g. Ian or Joss replies), but I personally disagree---although I concede that things might lo

constantly usable testing

2010-07-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
feasibility / user appreciation of the idea. Have you ever actually tried to call people to arms and *form* the CUT team? (Or maybe that was exactly the point of your mail …) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,d

Bug#590214: support for submitting bug reports via http

2010-07-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ure request on debbugs (I haven't yet checked whether the latter request already exists or not). Cheers PS that thread just made me try again the GTK2 UI of reportbug: it's just *great* nowadays, kudos! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Par

Re: teaching users how to submit good bug reports

2010-07-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
them all. Agreed. Still, I believe we might agree on the fact that the ability of submitting reports via HTTP would be quite a good compromise, even more so if http_proxy or equivalent variables are supported. That's why I've reported #590214. Would you like a similar (actually, bl

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
;. It's even possible that Marga still has a running instance somewhere, although I'm not sure about that. If you or anyone else is interested in the topic, you might want to join the project and push for an actual deployment. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \

CUT BoF at DebConf10

2010-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
on a posteriori. Cheers. [1] start at <http://blog.debconf.org/blog/debconf10/hl_videos_up.dc> for more information -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c&#x

Re: CUT BoF at DebConf10

2010-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
thing can be arranged, although unfortunately there are no resources for video in all rooms. Minutes will be posted nonetheless and hopefully we can then have a project-wide discussion afterwards. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsi

Re: CUT BoF at DebConf10

2010-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:23:46AM -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Thanks for noticing, I didn't realize that. I'll try to check with the > local team if something can be arranged Thanks to Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Joey Hess, and Sam Hartman, the BoF has been rescheduled to Augu

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

2010-08-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the usual procedure: filing a wish list bug report against debhelper about the feature you think is missing. Having a patch ready and attaching it to the bug report will surely help, but of course you'll need to be ready to address the remarks that the debhelper maintainer might have. Cheers. --

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
or the events I own (with both slides and minutes) and I find that to be a very good way to keep future/historical memory of discussions we have at DebConf. Unfortunately, AFAICT only the owner can add attachments, so it should be you doing that. Thanks again! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o

on the role of debian among its derivatives

2010-08-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
efault*? Just make sure it is evident that columns are customizable and how preferences can be saved (cookie/bookmark/whatever). In fact, there's a clear usability problem in DDPO as the number of columns grows; the best default view is probably one where the shown columns are kept at the very

Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
hat solution will adhere to general HCI principles of making the user aware of the current state of the application and, at the same time, give visibility to new useful columns as soon as people add them (which is exactly your use case: you added new useful columns and you reasonably desire that

Re: Bug#595820: ITP: woof -- A small, simple, stupid webserver to share files

2010-09-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
wise to have long descriptions ready at ITP-submission time: thread like this one might have been avoided completely, thanks to a convincing long description :-) Thanks for your packaging work! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pp

Re: Bug#595820: ITP: woof -- A small, simple, stupid webserver to share files

2010-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the "webfs" package to document what more woof has to offer. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans

Re: Bug#595820: ITP: woof -- A small, simple, stupid webserver to share files

2010-09-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
might be written as simply as you just did, but it's still something this ITP is waiting for. Bottom line: this thread could have probably been spared entirely, by providing a long description matching the above criteria since the beginning. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Compute

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 09:22:57AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Plus, these packages would (in the current state of affairs) lack a > description. On this topic, we have our friend #555743. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsi

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
o patch reportbug on time). Cheers. [1] in fact, as there are similarities with what derivatives do, we might want to do that in a generic way and push it to derivatives as a standard way to give credit to the maintenance work done in Debian [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/09/m

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ore distributed and loosely coupled. So the blocker is simply finding someone doing the needed porting work, possibly generalizing the code for the benefit of everyone willing to setup something like that. Show me the code! :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Uni

Re: Re: Google Summer of Code 2010 Debian Report

2010-09-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
maximizes the chances that the criticism will have any useful effect. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've f

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 01:19:20PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > From what concerns the BTS, Don's proposal in [2] (the main one, not > > the alternative solution) seems reasonable to me and others in the > > thread.

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
BoF—an event I recommend to watch to get an idea of the interest around CUT also *inside* the project). My understanding is that the impact will be very low, so I still see no reasons not to try. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.c

Re: Richard A Nelson (Rick) MIA

2010-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ll then need someone to sponsor your upload. Once the upload is done, you can then get in touch with the release team to check whether they'd be willing to unblock the package and have it into Squeeze, as we're currently in freeze (and as apparently no sendmail bug is currently marked as R

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tive solution—unless you volunteer to add the needed support in the BTS. The whole point of this whole sub-thread was estimating when the support will be in place and, according to that, decide whether we should try to get the "hack" in Squeeze or not. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o-

Re: delegation for FTP Masters

2010-09-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
I'll highlight more clearly the "diff" next time. In this specific case, the "diff" is the addition of Torsten Werner as FTP master. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-10-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
#x27;s time to take a decision on that and I'd say that it's essentially Don's call. If nothing happens, we can keep as a fallback solution that of using Send-To, to be eventually advertised in backport rules for Squeeze, setting the submit@ as an alias for the mailing list. Chee

Re: Debian bugs #700000 and #1000000 contest

2010-10-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ime spent grumbling about *past* grudges. Cheers. PS Note that all the above has nothing to do with your work for releasing Squeeze and, more generally, with your work within the Debian Python community. I have always considered it outstanding and the above is by no means meant to diminish

Re: Emdebian links in Debian pages and local mirrors

2010-10-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
bian (TDebs)" http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep4/ ? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhe

Re: Bits from ftp-team (aka: Don't upload RC fixes to NEW queue)

2010-11-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
deed http://molly.corsac.net/~corsac/debian/new/ Thanks a lot! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhere ti r

Re: Squeeze Artwork: selection of default theme

2010-11-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
there for Wheezy, helping out -desktop starting from day 1 of the development cycle. Of course input from everyone is welcome also on how similar matters should be decided *in the future*, but I believe comments should be better postponed past Squeeze release, when we will all be way more relaxed

Re: Bug#605892: please state that mails will be publically archived

2010-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tp://bugs.debian.org/XX";. The text can probably be improved and also blended with some other message that reportbug is already reporting. How about that? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -&l

Re: Bug#605892: please state that mails will be publically archived

2010-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
TOH, if it can be fixed by simply changing a string which is already there, it might be easier to have it in. Unfortunately, it will require translations though... Thanks for your quick feedback, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.

cross-distro work on App Store/Software Center - looking for volunteers

2010-12-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
discussion about the idea, we can have it separately and, more importantly, once we have a clearer technical presentation of the idea. What we need here are people interested in the topic who volunteer some time to represent Debian. - Forwarded message from Vincent Untz - Fro

Re: Introducing the "Debian's Automated Code Analysis" (DACA) project

2010-12-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ibute and improves the chances of finding new contributors. Thanks for DACA! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I'

Re: Introducing the "Debian's Automated Code Analysis" (DACA) project

2010-12-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
/projects/daca It is now approved, but apparently no VCS is associated to it. Thanks a lot for this initiative! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche

Re: Introducing the "Debian's Automated Code Analysis" (DACA) project

2010-12-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ll need some support in DACA to re-run the analysis of a given tool on the whole archive, which I'm not sure it's something you had in mind to support. > > It is now approved, but apparently no VCS is associated to it. > GForge bug, worked around by the admins now. T

Re: cross-distro work on App Store/Software Center - looking for volunteers

2010-12-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t the meeting. So, if you are interested, please contact me to volunteer. The sooner, the better. Cheers PS full quote below of the initial mail, to the benefit of -project readers On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 04:43:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Dear all, > Vicent Untz has co

[vu...@gnome.org: Cross-distro meeting about application installer]

2010-12-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
days, but I'll reply to questions when I come back, if you have any :-)) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ Distributions mailing list distributi...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/di

Re: Bug#608922: ITP: matlab -- integrate local Matlab installations into the Debian system

2011-01-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t of matlab might be misleading (cfr. 'octave-integration'). As a second choice, how about 'matlab-support'? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando

DiscussionsAfterSqueeze [ Was: how to communicate removals ]

2011-01-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
of this and similar topics? Otherwise I fear we'll obtain a lose-lose effect of leaving bad feelings behind us at present *and* forgetting to address problems in the future. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.o

Re: DEP5: CANDIDATE and ready for use in squeeze+1

2011-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ons to bail out on out of date debian/copyright instances. YMMV, of course. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I'

Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

2011-01-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y will relieve the burden of maintainers in doing triaging and let them focus on actual bugs that random BSP-participants might not feel entitled to fix. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilo

Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

2011-01-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
g to Debian (because they don't read the doc, because they don't know how to report upstream, because they can't make the judgement, etc.). Cheers. [1] "obvious" here is in user's opinion, as when a bug report is filed there are only users who ca

Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

2011-01-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
way around that, but I don't think it's a valid reason not to try. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I&#x

Re: DEP5: CANDIDATE and ready for use in squeeze+1

2011-01-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ield as well. So be it. I still don't get how the versioned Format URL will look like once DEP5 will be shipped by debian-policy though. Would it use the Vcs-Browser of the debian-policy package or ...? Just curious. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Pa

package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-01-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
zy release cycle would be amazing, as it will enable maintainers to add tests to their packages during the expected package updates for Wheezy. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.c

Results of the App Installer Meeting

2011-01-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ Distributions mailing list distributi...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions - End forwarded message - -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ.

Re: package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-01-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
been collaborative: once a run is available, we ask on -qa to review logs. This is of course not as good as automatic reporting (e.g. a-la lintian.d.o), but is a start. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debia

Re: package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-01-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d unless explicitly requested. So, to specify no test dependencies at all, "Depends: " is the way to go, right? (In one of the two scenarios I've described in the beginning this is a completely useless corner-case scenario, while in the other it is not). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o-

Re: A request for those attending key signing parties

2011-01-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
" to caff (yes, I've defined the two environment variable for the transition period and they come pretty handy). Cheers PS too bad LCA's signing party was at the same time of Tridge's talk :-( -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsil

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