On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:58:30AM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I am very much surprised at the Debian community's passivity with > respect to what I see as a clear violation of Debian's commitment to > collective decision taking.
I think this is because you do not fully understand how decision making in Debian works. With the above sentence you seem to believe that in Debian we *first* discuss any single decision collectively and only then we go ahead and implement it. This is not the case. If it were, in a project the sheer size of Debian, we will be just discussing and doing nothing else. In fact Debian is first of all a do-ocracy and our actual commitments read « An individual Developer may make any technical or nontechnical decision with regard to their own work; » (Constitution §3.3.1.1). This is not to say that we are not a democratic project, quite the contrary: we have democratic ways to override any single entity in the project, but they are just not the default. Therefore, your claims about "Debian community's passivity" are quite inappropriate, even if I do understand that they help your cause and that you might be advancing them for that reason. Now, the above is used routinely cum grano salis by individual maintainers, that before pushing big changes that affect others discuss them first and listen to feedback of the others. As reported by Julien in this thread already, that has happened in this specific case and the maintainer position is still (AFAIU) that the decision will be re-evaluated at freeze time. Given that context, I fail to understand what exactly your n-th re-iteration of this issue on -devel adds. If you really care about the issue, you should rather consider: (1) rolling up your sleeves and helping out fixing RC bugs (you will obtain that the freeze will happen sooner, as well as decision re-evaluation happen sooner), or (2) engage the technical committee in this issue (which is our *technocratic* way to override decisions), or finally (3) start a GR (which is our *democratic* way to override decisions). Note that you'll need to be a Developer for the latter, but not for the former. In the meantime, please refrain to claim that the Debian community is falling shorts of its commitments due to this. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime
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