Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Without further specifics, this is not a useful argument to
> have. Assuming by "Ubuntu" you mean Ubuntu Breezy (i.e.
> stable as of 6 months ago), but what do you mean by
> "Debian"? Sarge? Sid today? Sid yesterday? Etch last week?
> If you've only loo
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am on dozens of mailing lists. There are thousands of participants on
> this list alone. I subscribe to, and leave, mailing lists all the time.
> Why should a person with a personal preference expect me to shoulder the
> burden of maintaining a mental
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So I really wonder why mailing lists are so common.
>
> It sort of depends on what you're looking for.
>
> Some advantages of mailing lists:
>
> * E-mail generally has a "wider reach" -- it gets past corporate
>
Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Matthias Julius wrote:
> [Mail vs. News]
>> * A mailing list is easier to distribute with a slow
>> server/connection. If a mail takes 3 minutes to show up in your
>> mailbox it doesn't matter. If each news
Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2006-08-17 01:53:59, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
>>
>> It's the way diff/patch works. They don't preserve execute
>> permissions.
>>
> I have realised that and I am opting for Don Armstrong solution which
> solves the matter. Thanks.
You could run
Sander Marechal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am looking to create .deb's for x86-64. I have an AMD64 but run an
> i386 OS due to the lack of some 64-bit packages (like flash and
> what-not). I have pbuilder all set up to build packages for i386, but I
> wonder if it's possible to use it to crea
Sander Marechal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thanks. The kernel works but I loose the nvidia driver and with it XGL,
> so X crashes on startup (I have the XGL server replace the standard X
> server, not run on top of it).
Maybe you just need to rebuild the nVidia kernel modules?
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Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
>> the symlink exists but the pointed binary hasn't been unpacked yet ->
>> unbootable system.
>> - If you set up the alternatives in postinst, there is a time when there
>> is
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Matthias Julius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >> - If you set up the alternatives in preinst, then there is a time when
>> >> the symlink exi
"Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:43:51 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> I think there will be a serious attempt at collaborating with the
>> Gnuzilla folks to try to resolve this confusion. Meanwhile, we're
>> trying to get the existing Firefox into Debian as free sof
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: dnshistory
Version : 1.2
Upstream Author : Stephen McInerney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.stedee.id.au/dnshistory/
* License : GPL
Program
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm unhappy with the missing upstream situation. I could also wait for a
> volunteer to maintain both the software and the maintainer.
^^
What kind of maintenance do *you* need?
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> As regards bouncing, we recognize that receiving an automated message is not
> the suitable behavior. On the other hand, not receiving anything and not
> seeing the message in the list archives is even worse. We decided then to
> suppress bouncing
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How about instead of speaking about POSIX, policy should just list the
> shells that are officially supported as /bin/sh? There is no need
> listing every shell, just a representative subset: bash (obviously),
> dash (it's popular) and an other "minimalis
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Is it possible to make 64bit kernels available?
>>
>> Sarge does have them and the BTS has a patch for linux-2.6 to enable
>> them again. Now go
Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am interested in getting build-dependencies for a source package on
> a system using aptitude. In the past I've used apt-get build-dep, but
> that was on systems managed with apt-get. I think aptitude won't know
> about apt-get's selections, and may to
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think that is an artifact of any mail sent to d-d-a, as a
> Mail-Followup-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> header is automatically added for every mail sent there.
Even for mail that already has a M-F-T header?
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Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And I'm not sure that you are right with your majority claim. A lot of
> larger installations use nfs and they quickly add up to a lot of
> systems rivaling the rest of the user base in numbers.
But, I am not sure whether you can count them all a
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think you've misunderstood the purpose of the default installation.
That might be.
> It's not the bare minimum to make the system work (that's Essential:
> yes). It's the standard stuff that everyone expects to be on a UNIX
> system, including t
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:50:09AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
>
> Then perhaps you shouldn't be changing a winning team? ;-)
Who are you referring to?
>> This in practice means almost the same. If it is selected by defa
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> LANGUAGE=en_CH:en_US:en_GB:en
^
There is a Swiss English? I didn't know that.
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Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - but having 20 importaint bugs in one package and 1 wishlist in
>another package -- in my world the 20 importaint bugs gets higher
>priority - even if it takes a half year to get to the wishlist
>without much commenting.
I don't think much
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There are a fair number of lintian wishlist bugs in that category. I
> suppose I could send a form letter in response to each one of them, but
> I'm not sure how useful that really is. I try to get to wishlist bugs for
> new checks when I have a chance,
Berke Durak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> iframe { border-style: none; width: 140px; height: 500px }
> div.weather { float: right; width: 100px; height: 200px; margin-right:
> 30px }
>
> http://brion.inria.fr/anla/weather_status";>
> Your rusty browser does not support IF
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't see how forcing people to reply to bugs helps here. What's
> really needed is to convince maintainers to respond promptly and
> constructively to bug reports. That's a much harder problem, and much
> harder to automate.
That is exactly what I mea
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Moreover, if you send a message using a real smtp server, and its IP
> is listed in a DNSBL I use, you will receive a message from
> mailer-daemon saying so. This may and will surely happen, hopefully
> not often, but IMHO it's better than the message ar
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If your SMTP server is listed in a DNSBL which I told db.debian.org
> to use for my debian.org email and you try to send me a message,
> then master will say "I don't accept this message" to your SMTP
> server, and your SMTP server, in turn, will send yo
Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Qui, 2007-01-04 às 11:10 +, Dominic Hargreaves escreveu:
>>
>> backports.org is, to my mind, a perfect solution to this problem; it
>> allows you to selectively upgrade your favourite/important packages that
>> you need, whilst retaining the stable bas
Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> There could be another archive called updates.debian.org where
>> selected packages go in in coordination with the security and stable
>> release teams.
> that would be nicier ... but that's a bit of volatile's purpose.
> Although it is not very used.
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:40:17 -0700, "Wesley J. Landaker"
>>
>>Months; I've had to switch 10's of clients to use ftp.debian.org instead
>>since I've been getting intermittant problems like this with
>>ftp.us.debian.org since ~ October last year.
>
> That's
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2) multiarch has a problem with changelogs in library packages. It
> must be possible to insall libc6:i386 and libc6:amd64. If both contain
> /usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog then that gives a file conflict in
> dpkg. Having the changelog in libc6-c
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:37:28 -0500, Matthias Julius
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>If you have more than a few clients it might be a good idea to have
>>your own private mirror. Then, if your upstream mirror has a
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> 2) multiarch has a problem with changelogs in library packages. It
>>> must be possible
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am 2007-01-08 10:26:50, schrieb Pierre Habouzit:
>>> That becomes tiredsome. Once again, I really think that the list used
>> as a primary contact for packaging shall not be moderated. Alioth has
>> quite reasonable antispam measures, so that's real
Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Debian Policy Manual]
>
> 12.5 Copyright information
>
> Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright
> and distribution license in the file
> /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed
> nor be a
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a more detailed list sorted by popularity and annotated by the
> bug number or the dep-waits but that would have been much longer to
> post.
Can you put it online somewhere and post a link to it?
Matthias
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Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Then I had the idea that I could just as well convert Sources files to
> create pseudo packages for sources that depend on all the
> Build-Depends. So I create a dummy deb without contents and converted
> the Sources file to have src-foobar as pac
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I think a more elegant solution would be if aptitude had a command to
>> install build-depends. It could attach a new flag to a package that
>> causes aptit
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I think aptitude uses /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages to determine
>> dependencies. How else would it know about them for packages that are
>> not installed.
Frank Küster writes:
> The ${source:Version} thing is a point. However, I also see a need for
> such binNMUs, or rather a case where it would be helpful.
>
> That's the case when a package Build-Depends on some package because it
> needs to incorporate code (or configuration settings or data or
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:42:25AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
>> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >> If we do go to source-only uploads, could this problem be avoided b
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 12:13:07AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> > binNMUs though. Aren't buildds simply there to build the existing
>> > sources on other platforms? Surely some human was involved here?
>>
>> wanna-build and buildd have been modifie
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If I receive automatic notification from the BTS that the maintainer
> has attached a "confirmed" tag to the bug, that is plenty of
> acknowledgement.
or "pending", "upstream", "wontfix", "help" or change in severity.
Any of those actions indicates that so
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:35:43PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
>
> wow, I'm really amazed. For the KDE and Gnome teams (and I'm sure
> others did it as well) there was mails requesting help to triage bugs
> and so on (from january 2006). Reading this t
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 19:23 +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
>>
>> The implementation was not really difficult, the patch file
>> itself is 200 lines alltogether.
>
> not bad :) i have to admit i haven't looked at the patch.
>
>> > would be to see the difference
This question is better placed on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, I am crossposting it there
Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> since I'm not only a geek but also a photographer and GIMP user I've
> decided to have a look at wnpp bug #398765 [1] and package the plugin
> [2]. While pack
Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:53:00PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
>> > Although this clutters up /etc they could be saved as *.dpkg-last or
>> > so. New packages' conffiles can be saved as *.dpkg-new just like dpkg
>> > currently does if one c
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
>> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> Do you expect potential helpers to search various list archives or
>> mail maintainers to ask
Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matthias Julius, 2007-03-07 11:32:32 -0500 :
>
>> It's a matter of how someone arrives at the point where he wants to
>> help. If he wakes up one morning and thinks "I want to help the KDE
>> team" he will
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> message to its intended target is a hard thing. How about having 'text
> ads' on the pages of the Debian site that showcase a 'request for help'
> or similar?
I don't like ads. Ads are annoying. That doesn't mean they don't
work. If I need some informat
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ] ] > > Again, I do not appreciate the latent criticism of the big teams
> ] ] > > to
> ] ] > > hide their understaff problem. It's blatantly bogus hence iritating,
> ] ] > > almost insulting.
> ] ] >
> ] ] > Don't you wonder why it is perceived li
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I see no harm in addressing the issue in multiple ways. I have no
> problem with a FLOSS project 'asking' for help in an ad. I dont like ads
> for most other things. People take multiple paths to find stuff. Instead
> of assuming that 'if I found it, then e
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:06:09AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Specifically because:
>> * Most machines have only one interface (If Debian is running on more
>> routers
>> than workstations, obviously this would be wrong, but
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:11:04AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>
>>configuration, it will no longer bring up the network on boot because
>>the device name changed. If the box is using NFS, NIS, or LDAP,
>>people may even have trouble logging i
Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And almost every laptop comes with wired and wireless interfaces.
I almost wrote that myself, but they have different names and dont
compete for numbers.
Matthias
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"cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Automatically orphaning such packages has problems as Russel pointed out,
>but a "needs co-maintainers"/"needs hijacking" list of packages where
>DD's can be more aggressive in jumping/taking over in seems a good idea
>IMO.
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
>> The multiarch media still has a small problem: for i386/amd64 they are
>> no "fire and forget" thing; you still need to find out if you have an
>> amd64 compatible system an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:37:16PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
>> Does d-i need to run in 64bit mode to be able to install a amd64
>> system?
>
> It needs a 64bit kernel to run 64bit binaries, and since many post
> instal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> Actually I wouldn't say win64 is broken, it just has a serious lack of
> drivers, which of course will continue as long as nobody is using it.
> If microsoft wanted to solve this they should mandate 64bit drivers
> along with 32bit drivers in order to
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You mean win64-only games? Nobody dares to invest in developing that now;
> it would be suicidal.
I don't know about the practices of game developers, but, from what I
see on Linux it should be minimal effort to port a software to 64 bit
if it is writt
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I suppose you haven't seen my previous mail. Note that this problem
> (autodetecting 64-bit) is already solved in etch.
True. I've read it after I wrot mine.
Does d-i use syslinux?
Matthias
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Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just a thought, but how about booting d-i and familiarising yourself
> with it? (This goes for all DDs who have never run d-i.)
I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-)
Now that etch is released I will actually do that. I have one machine
left that is no
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:48:06PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
>>
>> I don't know about the practices of game developers, but, from what I
>> see on Linux it should be minimal effort to port a software to 64 bit
&
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> Well my farther is going to get a new system for cad soon, which the
> current plan is to have 64bit vista with solidworks 64bit running. But
> it might be another month or two before he is ready for it, so hopefully
> by then any remaining driver is
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote:
>
>> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-)
>
> Actually, you don't have to. Try qemu.
Ahh, true. That's another chapter I havn't looked into, yet.
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"Tshepang Lekhonkhobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got an idea that some software is targeted at such a narrow
> userbase (CAD for example) that volunteer development seemes
> unjustified. In such cases, it's nice when academy and business lend
> their hand.
There just isn't enough interes
Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Free cad implementations are too simple for use in some industrial
> environments, when programs like CATIA or Solidorks, or inventor, Come
> in Mind.
> These programs are expensive and require power that can be better used
> in 64 bit platform.
64bit Linu
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Er, by definition a patent is supposed to include a complete description of
> the invention that would permit a third-party to reimplement the invention,
> in exchange for granting the inventor exclusive rights to the invention for
> a limited time. Wo
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If x86_64-linux-gnu is stablished as the new reference api, well, they'll
> be forced to.
Reference for what? Is there any software vendor porting his
applications to 64bit Linux because of problems with win64? I havn't
noticed any. Proprietary softw
Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is an argument that source code can only be a description whereas
> a binary is an implementation, so only distributing binaries that
> include the claimed invention could infringe. I'm not sure whether this
> has been legally tested.
If this hol
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
>> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote:
>> >
>> >> I hate to reboot just
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:43:09PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
>> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > If x86_64-linux-gnu is stablished as the new reference api, well, they'll
>> > be f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> Autodesk is fortunately slowly becoming less relevant as much better
> programs are eating away at their market share. Moving to directx
> sounds crazy given the pro level graphics cards have certified opengl
> drivers, not directx drivers. They rea
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Sebastian Mach]
>> Is that only for stable? Me for example uses a february testing, and
>> I might not be alone
>
> These numbers are for everyone, including oldstable, stable, testing
> and unstable.
And what is most interesting about them i
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Programming/OCaml would be better than the status quo for me.
>
> But actually I'm not sure if my case would deserve an even finer
> sub-category such as Programming/$language/ApiReference or similar. What
> do you think?
>
> Would it be possible to
Ben Finney writes:
> This seems a useful summary:
>
> Neil Williams writes:
>
>> AFAICT it is perfectly acceptable for debian/copyright to collapse
>> those to:
>>
>> > Files: *.c
>> > Copyright: 2006, 2008 Mr. X
>> > Copyright: 2005 Mr. Y
>> > License: GPL2+
>>
>> There is no collapsing o
Noah Slater writes:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 07:27:33PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>> > Does Files: *.c mean that everything below applies equally to all
>> > files that match the pattern or does it mean that the statement
>> > includes a summary of all files that match the pattern?
>>
>> Before t
Ben Finney writes:
> Matthias Julius writes:
>
>> It is exactly what you would get if someone would merge the three
>> files into one. Suddenly, the copyright statements cover the whole of
>> the contents of all three files and you couldn't knwow anymore what is
&g
Noah Slater writes:
> * I don't know much about mailing list software, so I'm not going to be as
> bold as to suggest I know what the solution is. However, on all the other
> lists, I never get duplicate copies of email when people reply to me with
> an
> unnecessary CC. Perhaps th
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